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Going to Denmark in 5 days

Okay so basically im flying out to Denmark and theres legit 5 days left and im still taking this stuff.

Iv managed to get my dose from 4.5g every dose (3 to 4 times a day depending on if i wake up in minor but annoying withdrawl) to just 0.60 but im struggling alot more with these final days

I got capsules (0.50 each) and im wondering if i should just take those on the trip even tho kratoms kinda iffy in Denmark

if i do do that then id prob take the powder out the capsules, mix the kratom with some protein powder that i can just buy, recapsule it, and put it back in the protein capsule bottle and take that w me to the airport

or is that a dumbass decision

btw i wanna take a capsule before my plane, or will that fuck up my progress?

id enjoy my vacation a hell of a lot more if i had kratom but i dont need it to enjoy myself

i just dont want withdrawals for most all of my trip

thankyou

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u/Sudden_History3406 — 10 hours ago
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Florida kratom extracts ban

So they’ve taken a lot of the extracts off the shelves upon the most recent ban. If you take the nano tech 7Stax, you can switch over to the Hyroxi MIT packs. They’re still on the shelves currently, but who knows for how long.

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u/OfficialMedium — 1 day ago

Wtf is in these things

I'm a kratom user and I have a med card so I don't really get the weed stuff from the smoke shop but I love trying all the weird head shop drugs they sell and give out free samples of. So 7 oh got banned in my state which I don't really care about but the smoke shop guy I guess makes most of his money off 7 and these are the new things. They SMACK WTF does anyone know what's in these things? Ain't know way it's cats claw that shit doesn't do anything by itself

u/Ok-Magazine-4297 — 3 days ago
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Is kratom is legal in india??

Can anyone tell me the legal status of kratom in India? If it is legal, where can it be bought online? I previously saw a website called Goodlife Supplement where kratom tea powder was available, but the site is no longer working.

Please help.

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u/SlipRough2701 — 5 days ago

Kava Bars

Hi all,

I hope you’re doing well and Happy Summer! I went to a kava bar in NYC (Manhattan) this past weekend and two observations:

  1. it was a lot fun with great drink options of al types kava, kratom, passion flower, etc. with good people to chat with (even though I was hoping to meet some more Kratom heads in attendance).

  2. The bartender knew NOTHING about Kratom. It’s not a judgment nor am I Knocking the guy because it’s really not his job just funny how I thought he’d have some insight and info on the products he serves at this place of employment. I was schooling him and some other customers so people on this sub would be impressed haha.

Really wish we had more places like this and can’t wrap my head around all the bans because everyone at this place was relaxed, chilled, and most importantly socializing as adults (probably one of the healthiest things a person can do!)

Look forward to going there again and would love to link up with anyone on this sub looking to hang and socialize! Let me know if anyone has similar experiences from similar places.

Much love from NY!

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u/Neither-Football-222 — 5 days ago
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⭐️Crossing-Over from extract tablets powder Leaf 🍃 Caps (red m da) Should I only dose @ Night?

~18 months in of what I thought was a “safe natural plant 🌱 “ - was given opia tablets, got 🪝 hooked on them: 4 per day, then 2 now 1 + the Red capsules @ bed… I am completely ðopê- sïçK from this knarley drug. ⭐️ANY tapering Advice?⭐️

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u/SkywalkerGirl1975 — 6 days ago
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Attn Unadulterated Kratom Consumers

Attention Unadulterated Kratom Consumers.

Plz no negative comments.

NC legislators are trying to do a blanket ban on our plant. 7oh, the semi synthetic garbage has put our plant at risk. They're having a closed door mtg this week ...

🚨North Carolina
Copy and pasted

The Global Kr@tom Coalition is alerting North Carolina residents to an urgent and evolving situation in the state legislature.

House Bill 328 — which includes a blanket kr@tom ban — is set to be debated between House and Senate lawmakers in a closed-door negotiation.

We need advocates to contact the members of this conference committee and urge them to embrace commonsense regulation for natural kr@tom leaf, not a blanket ban that fails to distinguish between natural kr@tom leaf products and concentrated synthetic kr@tom derivatives.

Specifically, advocates should tell lawmakers to consider age restrictions, mandatory third-party testing, and labeling requirements. The General Assembly should follow the lead of federal health officials, who have recommended scheduling concentrated synthetic 7-OH, not natural kr@tom leaf.

Conference Committee Members

Sen. Bill Rabon: 919-733-5963 | Bill.Rabon@ncleg.gov
Sen. Michael Lee: 919-715-2525 | Michael.Lee@ncleg.gov
Sen. Tom McInnis: 919-733-5953 | Tom.McInnis@ncleg.gov
Rep. Reece Pyrtle: 919-733-5779 | Reece.Pyrtle@ncleg.gov
Rep. Brenden Jones: 919-733-5821 | Brenden.Jones@ncleg.gov
Rep. Neal Jackson: 919-715-4946 | Neal.Jackson@ncleg.gov
Rep. Donnie Loftis: 919-733-5809 | Donnie.Loftis@ncleg.gov

If you need additional help taking action, please use the Kr@tom Consumer Advisory Council's Advocacy Buddy tool for state ordinances.

Please make your voice heard in the push for smart, science-led policy in North Carolina.

u/MizJen71877 — 9 days ago
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No hot plate? No problem! 😂 Guide: Make your own Kratom extract, no harsh solvents or labs or gas stations.

I’m not rich, I’m very poor actually but I do have a 3D printer my buddy gave me for free. So why not use the bed of it to act as a hot plate. And I don’t use kratom anymore. But extracting kratom won’t land me in prison, like say DMT. Which I absolutely LOVE allegedly making.

Print plate was obviously moved. Paper towel is just to prevent accidents.

An air fryer with a dehydration mode would be ideal.

ALSO….Sorry.

I promise you when I’m done you will get a full PDF and I did record every step. It’s just time consuming to edit the shit. But if you have common sense, a computer, a thermometer and household items the bare instructions are below.

The guide I’ll be done with hopefully this weekend goes into specifics on why you’re doing what you’re doing. Explaining thermolysis and it does to increase yields.

Want a quick breakdown? Like now?

You’ll need:

-Kratom 30g
-Jars
-Pots
-Stove
-Airfryer would be lovely. I own a 3d printer but not an air fryer.
-5% Vinegar (NOT CLEANING VINEGAR.) If higher than 5% do your math and dilute.
-1.5 cups of water

You should: Sterilize all your vessels holding your solutions. Dawn dish soap to remove grease and oils, then ISO alcohol wipes to clean. Including the lids. We don’t want fermentation or mold.

First: Add your 30g of kratom to your mason jar, and add your 2.25 tablespoons of vinegar and 1.5 cups of water.

Learn more about that here and watch the video: [CLICK]
The thread has a lot of good discussion too.

  1. Cap on, shake vigorously. You want zero clumps as kratom is hydrophobic. Put jar in freezer overnight.
  2. Take jar out and LET THAW AT ROOM TEMP. This mason jar is going to be heated up and a crack in the glass would mean A LOT of extra work and time.
  3. Once fully thawed get a pot of water on your stove and make sure it can have enough water to reach the line of the mason jar where your kratom mixture is. ‼️** ALSO: MAKE SURE YOU USE A BUFFER UNDER THE JAR**.‼️In my case a mason jar lid. You don’t want the vessel to contact the bottom of your boiling pot. A rag will work, a grate, whatever you want.

This is what the solution looks like after thawing at room temp. Airtight container, fermentation could occur but the vinegar and clean jars should prevent that.

⚠️ NEVER LET IT GET CLOSE TO 60°C, if you see it hit 50°C remove vessel and adjust boiling pot temp. Lots of trial and error, but it’s all gravy if we don’t hit 60°C

  1. Once your mixture has been kept at the required temps above for 20mins turn off your boiler/stove and keep the jar in. It’ll also allow it to settle better. Once it’s back at room temp, put it in an airtight container/jar and store in a dark place. I used an empty cooler. NOTE: Don’t let that mixture sit long. Especially if you didn’t sanitize the jars and lids with say ISO. Even if you did avoid storing it long term. Keep in that environment for 24hrs and allow to settle completely.

  2. The following day get your strainer and clean, preferably not cleaned with detergent. Don’t use coffee filters yet. Put a strainer into whatever vessel you have (a different one) and do a double layer T-shirt filter. Slowly pour off the top liquid. Only try to get the liquid for now.

  3. I recommend letting gravity do its thing and transferring the strained liquid to that other vessel periodically between pours. Eventually you’ll get to the sediment.

  4. Add just enough water to the sediment to make it a sludge and into the tshirt. Then just wring out all the liquid until that material is bone dry.

  5. You should now have a jar of amber liquid. That liquid is now going to be refiltered using multiple coffee filters. This will catch plant particulate the shirt didn’t. If you use them from the start it’s possible but it clogs A LOT. I used an internal coffee pot filter with 5-7 paper filters over a measuring cup. Pour as much as you can without going over the filters. And let gravity do the rest.

Rinse repeat until your new vessel is nothing but double strained liquid.

Now you have a jar of amber liquid that is extract. You do NOT need to evaporate.

Which is a pain. You can make tinctures with it; whatever. Just make sure you’re storing it right and if liquid maybe preservatives of some sort. Pineapple juice is used a lot I’ve noticed in commercial products.

IF YOU WANT A POWDER OR RESIN….

Alternatively I’ve used heat lamps, heating pads under a casserole dish. Straight left in the hot sun. The goal is a thin layer of liquid coating as much area as possible and heating it to said temperatures until it becomes basically a crust/powder.

If you used apple cider vinegar you will get a resin like substance that’s almost like cannabis extract.

I don’t mind it, use dab pick, scoop some, lick your fingers and roll into a ball or oval to put in a capsule or whatever just eat it. Wetting your fingers prevents the resin from sticking to your fingers and making a mess.

Important Notes:

If you keep your jar post boiling or even pre boiling pay attention for any mold if you had it sitting a while. It should smell earthy and vinegary kinda. But not anything like mold.

I sanitized the cafe bustello and mason jars first using dawn dish soap then wiping down with ISO alcohol wipes. Just as a precaution. I had it sitting for almost 2 days and zero mold detection. But be on the lookout for it. Sitting for too long can also create psuedoindoxyl if conditions are right.

Yields may vary drastically. This isn’t just mitragynine extract. The temps and methods used were to get the maximum amount of alkaloids out of the plant material. Primarily there’s 4, MIT, 7-OH, and 2 that act on serotonin receptors responsible for the mood lift. PLUS we’re getting the flavonoids.

Certain veins or strains may have more or less flavonoids than others, increasing yield. We know there’s an entourage effect with kratom. That’s clear as day. Just like terpenes on their own don’t do anything, flavonoids on their own won’t either. Combine them though and you get different effects.

It probably has to do with flavonoids inhibiting certain enzymes to increase the half life or bioavailability of certain alkaloids. Resulting in higher levels of psychoactive alkaloids making it into the blood/plasma.

Before anyone asks:

Why are you doing this?

Because if you believe kratom is helping you therapeutically then you should be able to consistently get the same dose. This allows for much accurate dosing and much less side effects that may be caused by the body processing loads of plant material. This will prevent random tolerance spikes when a stronger batch comes out. We know for a fact MIT content typically is between 1.7-2.4% of the plant. BUT some have been recorded at mid 6%.

So you could be taking 5 grams per day of this plant material you’ve been taking for a while. Then a new batch comes around and you could be taking the equivalent of 20 grams worth of MIT. That is not good for you, your tolerance, or your future relationship with kratom.

I truly believe kratom is a medicine. Well can be a medicine,
or recreational. But it is an opioid and don’t let the lack of β-arrestin give you a false sense of security. It’s still active on the KOR sites which is responsible for the really unpleasant side effects or “wobbles” and on top of that G-Protein activity, responsible for the analgesic effects.

It’s almost like a miracle plant in a way. I don’t use it anymore. Nor touch any opioid agonists outside clinical settings. I can’t control my use. But Kratom has a lot of potential and I can 100% guarantee pharmaceutical companies are making mitragynine or 7-OH derivatives that deliver analgesic effects without the respiratory depression. Because we don’t really have anything like it currently.

u/Cody610 — 9 days ago
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Traveling to country without Kratom

I’ve been taking kratom every day for about 3.5 years. It’s helped significantly with pain, depression, mood, and motivation. I’m currently tapering down from 20 gpd to go to Australia where kratom is a Schedule 9 "Prohibited Substance. If i get down to 2 grams and then nothing for a couple of days before I leave, will I be free from withdrawals if I’m without it completely for 12 days?

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u/Fantastic_Papaya_846 — 11 days ago
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My husband is an opioid addict in recovery and has started using Kratom. Is it only a matter of time before this gets out of hand?

I started seeing signs again. Nodding off. The eyes. The sunken cheeks. Waking up and seeing him sat up swaying. Then folding in half.

Treats me like I’m ridiculous for being upset by this.

We have a 15 month old.

His last relapse nearly broke us completely apart.

I just don’t know if I’m seeing the writing on the wall or if the trauma of his last relapse is clouding my judgement.

We brought it up in couples therapy, and basically I have to trust him. To what? Slide back into addiction in front of my very eyes? I do not want our daughter seeing this.

I don’t know what to do. I don’t know if tolerating any of it is me enabling or not.

Edit/update:
I looked back at the picture of the container I found. It says 7oh. So there’s that.

I’m not sure how to add the picture here so I will put it in the comments.

He insists that this isn’t the kratom he uses. That it’s a container his brother gave to him with a joint in it. He says he uses something different but is still being vague about what exactly he DOES use. “The strongest stuff they have there, trainwreck” is what he said. But how can he be using the strongest stuff they have- and yet he isn’t taking the stuff his brother takes? It doesn’t add up. But by then the conversation had become too frustrating for him for me to be comfortable pushing back that much in front of the baby.

He says he takes care of all his responsibilities so it shouldn’t be a problem. Also insists that he could take it and watch our daughter with no problem. I beg to differ.

I don’t think he is as far gone as his brother. We went camping and the dude was withdrawing (heard him moaning all the way from his tent) all night and he had to take him to town the next day to the smoke shop to get him well. I just think it’s only a matter of time before he is having by to do the same for himself if he is using this stuff.

Update #2 I asked him to show me the kratom he says he does take. I put the picture below. They are capsules.

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u/AwayWeThrow26 — 13 days ago
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Will kanna cause a false positive on drug test?

I use blue lotus to get through drug court and I'm about to try kanna. I've got some high grade stuff coming soon and I'm just asking if anybody has had problems with false positives on drug tests. Everywhere I've read says that it won't but it's very important that I know.

I'd also like to know your experiences with it. How much you do and your preferred way to take it.

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u/Ok_One6284 — 13 days ago