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Trans Advocacy Extremism
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Trans Advocacy Extremism

I am LGBTQ and a long time activist and advocate for LGBTQ rights

I am tired of the extremism and intolerance among a percentage of the people who advocate for trans rights

They are actively alienating potential LGBTQ allies

Someone posted an article on a large LGBT sub accusing Texas democratic politician James Tallarico of bigotry and transphobia because he advocated for restrictions on the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports.

Not advocating for a blanket ban, just advocating for reasoned restrictions.

The article was encouraging people to not vote for him.

I left several comments on that post which I will summarize below.

I said it was foolish to not vote for him in that election because he is an avowed LGBTQ allie who supports LGBTQ rights while his republican opponent is a dangerous bigot.

I said that advocating for the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports with certain restrictions is not necessarily a bigoted position.

Whether the person is advocating for trans woman having to be on hormone replacement therapy or trans women having to not have undergone a male puberty, taking those positions is not necessarily due to bigotry but could be due to concerns about fairness in women’s sports.

I said that even people who advocate for blanket bans on trans women in women sports could be taking that position due to their concerns about fairness in women’s sports and again not necessarily because of bigotry.

I personally understand that there is evidence from history and science that supports that blanket bans of trans women from women’s sports is not necessary to ensure fairness in those sports.

However, many average people might not be aware of those facts or even if they are aware of them might still favor blanket bans due to an overabundance of caution.

I said that if you want to change these people‘s minds about blanket bans then the thing to do is to have a constructive conversation with them and not just jump right into accusing them of bigotry, because you could be alienating a potential allie when you do that.

I also said that the most important criteria when it comes to judging whether or not someone is engaging in bigotry and transphobia is whether or not they support more essential trans rights such as equal rights in areas like housing and employment and service in the military and parental rights and the right to marry and the right not to be refused services, etc.

Because I expressed those opinions in that LGBT sub that I summarized above I, an LGBTQ person, was then permanently banned from that sub.

But before I was banned from the sub, a bunch of other people attacked me in the comments, accusing me of bigotry and transphobia and of advocating for blanket bans of trans women’s from women sports (which I never did).

I’m not going to name the sub specifically, but I’m guessing that most people can guess which LGBT sub I am referring to.

This is reflective of what happens all the time in real life

Even as an LGBTQ person, if you don’t adopt the trans advocacy positions that some trans rights activists believe you should adopt you will be accused of bigotry against trans people and transphobia.

These advocates are one of their own worst enemies, or at least an enemy

I think a lot of success of the progression for gay rights over the last few decades came from constructive dialogue between gay people/gay rights advocates and other people who were trying to be better informed on the relevant issues or who might’ve even been prejudice but were reconsidering their stances

The gay community didn’t just run around shouting “ You’re a bad person. You’re a bigot You’re evil. There’s no point in even talking to you.” in relation to every single person who didn’t fully support every aspect of gay rights or who wasn’t sure about whether they should or not.

And yes, I understand that there are plenty of people out there who really are evil bigots, and there is no point in talking to most of them, but you shouldn’t be treating those people and people who have sincere fairness concerns about trans women in women sports the same exact way.

I would say the same thing about the other trans rights hot button issue, which is of course bathrooms.

I am 100% I’m in favor of and advocate for allowing trans people to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

However, I again don’t just necessarily assume that anybody who has concerns about transgender people in bathrooms is a bigot or is looking to oppress trans people.

I do think that the bathroom issue is more clear cut than the sports issue and people who oppose trans peoples rights to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with are probably more likely to be bigoted than people who primarily or solely have concerns about trans women in women sports (and I realize in this case that that is an assumption that I am making, and I could be wrong).

HOWEVER I don’t jump to the assumption that they are bigots automatically and my first inclination would be to try and have a constructive conversation with them about it.

P.S.

Someone else is informed me that Tallarico said that he was in favor of reasoned restrictions on trans women’s participation in women’s sports for reasons of “safety and fairness” in at least one statement that he made and I verified that to be true.

First of all the original article and post that I commented on and got attacked on which then inspired me to make this post never said anything about him mentioning “safety” and the criticism of him in that article and in that post was not about him using that word.

I agree that that is a poor choice of words, and I wish that he would not have used the word “safety” in reference to this issue.

If you were to be as generous to him as possible in interpreting that you could hypothesize that he was concerned about cis gendered girls and cis gendered women’s physical safety in terms of sports where people come into hard physical contact with each other.

But even if that is what he was meaning to communicate, I still agree that that was a poor choice of word given the context of this issue and trans rights issues in general

(because it’s a favorite tactic of bigots and transphobes to suggest that trans people pose some especially dangerous threat to cis girls and cis women).

With that being said, I would still advocate voting for him in this election.

And my larger point about a large percentage of people, or at least a very vocal percentage of them, who advocate for trans rights attacking other people and accusing them of bigotry and transphobia over minor differences, and subsequently alienating a lot of people who might otherwise have been allies or more enthusiastic allies, still stands.

Again, in the original post this post is a response to, I and other people were getting attacked left and right by trans advocates for simply suggesting that people who are in favor of reasoned restrictions on trans women’s participation in women’s sports aren’t necessarily bigots and shouldn’t be attacked as such, especially since doing so is counterproductive to the progression of trans rights.

I unfortunately can’t link to the original post in that LGBT sub because the mods took it down.

P.P.S

I linked to this article or at least to a reddit post that included a link to this article in a list of links to other relevant reddit posts in one of my comments below but I think that it’s so important that people go and read this article that I’m going to link to it here directly

“A Manifesto for Liberal Trans Activism”

https://www.persuasion.community/p/a-manifesto-for-liberal-trans-activism

u/EarthRemembers — 6 days ago
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I think my ex's biphobia has given me a complex

She was only outwardly biphobic to me on a handful of occasions throughout our relationship, but she did make comments towards other bi people too.

The first time it happened, I blew the fuck up. She gagged after I mentioned that I'm not a lesbian because I'm still attracted to men. She gagged at me and said it was disgusting. I'd never experienced anything like that before. I was under the impression that we were part of the same community and therefore equal. This was my first wlw relationship, so I guess I was naive.

We used to be involved in the BDSM scene, where she was allowed to dominate men (non sexual), but I wasn't unless she was involved. We were allowed to sleep with other people, but I wasn't allowed to look at a man. I assumed this was pretty normal, and accepted her boundaries, but I kind of felt like I was suppressing myself.

She continued made a handful of underhanded comments towards my sexuality, for example She would openly declare "I don't date bi women", "see, this is why I don't date bi girls". She was generally very open about her disgust towards male attraction. She would make faces and say "ew, why?" If a woman expressed that she was straight. She would try to convince them otherwise. When my friend realised she was bi, not gay, my ex said "I'm so sorry" among other things to her, in front of her trans boyfriend. It really got to both of them, and they stopped talking to her after that.

She would always try to convince me that I was a lesbian, and now that our relationship is over I'm having a sexuality crisis and realising that I now hold a lot of internalised biphobia that I didn't have before. I have never felt ashamed of disgusted by my sexuality before. I have never felt like it was something I should hide. I never even had to come out to my parents, we are a really accepting household. But a lesbian, with a history of dating men, with parents who laughed in her face and didn't want to accept her, a family that I had to convince that I was worthy of being a part of, has deconstructed my entire world.

I'm dating again. I don't want to date men, I haven't even been attracted to a man in a long time. I keep asking myself "is that because I'm gay, Or is it because I'm ashamed?" And I cant tell anymore. I think I generally have better experiences with women, I don't see myself ever dating a man again really. I find myself hiding my sexuality now. I don't want to talk about it. The label feels dirty, I feel tainted. When I'm talking to a woman and she asks I feel so much guilt and shame. I feel like I have to apologise for ever being touched by man and for ever wanting to be touched by one. I'm so scared that I'll find someone and they won't want to be with me because I'm dirty.

Maybe I've always held some level of biphobia. Maybe I've never taken it seriously. I've always centered men because that's what I was taught to do. Maybe I'm not even bi, or never was. I don't even know anymore. I'm so confused.

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u/EzBriez_ — 4 days ago
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I painted my house purple, gave every window butterfly wings, and turned my sidewalk into a rainbow. No regrets. 🦋🌈

Some people want a house that blends in. I wanted mine to feel like walking into a dream every time I come home.

What I did:

🦋 Painted the siding a bold lavender purple

🦋 Gave every window a pair of rainbow butterfly wings

🌈 Hand-painted the front walkway in wavy pastel rainbow stripes

🌈 Edged the path and beds with rainbow-painted bricks and hundreds of painted river rocks

🦄 Added a rearing rainbow pegasus by the side bed, because why not

🦩 Built a flamingo garden around the tree with holographic ground cover and a giant sundae

The goal: To make anyone smile that drives by 😄

Happy to answer questions about paint, how I did the walkway, or where anything came from!

u/KDreamscape — 13 days ago
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A genuine question from someone in the LGBT community: Why is drag always tied to trans advocacy?

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u/Ra-Kim — 11 days ago
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A genuine question from someone in the LGBT community: Why is drag always tied to trans advocacy?

I’m gennuinely looking for clarity as someone who’s part of the LGBT community. Drag queens many of whom are gay men use drag as a form of artistry, creativity, and self expression. Why does every conversation about drag automatically have to become a defense of trans people simply because we’re all part of the same community?

Supporting trans people and respecting their rights is one conversation. Drag, artistry, and self expression are another. Not every LGBT conversation has to center trans rights, and not every moment of expression needs to become an opportunity to prove who supports whom.

I’m honestly tired of this constant “pick me, I need to be seen” culture. Sometimes the art can just be the art.

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u/Ra-Kim — 11 days ago

TLDR: Ace spectrum or traumatized?

TW for mild SA:

I (23F) have never had a relationship and only a few kisses. When I was 16 I remember having a dream about being Demisexual and I thought it was a sign. A couple months after, a guy I considered a friend cornered me and started touching my hands, arms, neck, putting his face in my neck. Despite my obvious uncomfortableness (I was on my phone multiple times, left the area once) when I turned to told him to stop, he kissed me. I was completely shocked as this was my first kiss and not how I wanted it to go or who I wanted it with. He asked to kiss me again, I said No, he kept asking until I said Ok.

Flash forward 7 years, I have yet to be in a relationship and have only kissed two other people, neither of which I enjoyed as much as I read about. I’m an avid fanfic reader, however I can’t read anything sexual involving female vaginas, it makes me feel icky.

I experience arousal occasional when reading, but thinking about it in reality is terrifying. I have no problem discussing sex with friends or cracking innuendos, but I personally find the idea of myself having sec impossible.

To the ace people out there- has anyone had similar experiences or is this maybe a deep rooted trauma response?

Please be kind. I’m really putting myself out here.

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u/Shoddy_Kiwi_9884 — 11 days ago
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wondering if y’all have similar experiences (nsfw)

hello all, I consider myself on the ace spectrum but i just call myself asexual to shorten things.

growing up i used to be extremely sex repulsed (very possibly due to sexual trauma in my past), however, those feelings have changed. now i would say i’m sex indifferent or even possibly sex favorable from time to time.

my partner (alosexual) and i have been together for 5 years. in the beginning we were long distance, and for the past three years we have been living together.

this is where the post is gonna get a bit personal and nsfw so if you don’t want to hear about anything sexual pls stop reading.
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there are times when i feel extremely strong sexual attraction to my partner, but these feelings are so new to me that i don’t know how to go about initiating with them. and i really WANT to initiate with them. i know they want me to initiate because we have had multiple conversations where they have told me it makes them feel unwanted when i don’t start things and they are the only one to initiate. i have gotten to a point where i can recognize when i am having these feelings, but it’s like there is a wall between me and my partner, or maybe the wall is between my heart and my brain. i’m not sure. something inside me tells me it’s wrong to touch them sexually even when i myself am having sexual wants and needs. even when i see they are ready to start something sexual at the same time as me.

there are times when we have sex and it’s amazing and everything i want and need, and there are other times when it feels like my physical body is not on the same page as my hormones. i will get extremely aroused but the moment we move into something sexual, it’s like my body doesn’t feel pleasure anymore. or it will for brief moments until the sensations become so much i can’t handle it and it becomes slightly painful. it’s been very frustrating for me.

i’m wondering if others on the ace spectrum and in the community have had similar experiences. how did you work through these feelings? do you have any advice from your own perspective that helped you to understand what your body needs?

thank you!

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u/scrimblo_the_wimblo — 13 days ago