r/VivziepopCritics

Bee and Tex shouldn't be a couple because it disrupts the system nor should she be throwing parties with the lowest class of hell. She's a princess of hell a representative of gluttony and the 3rd highest class in hell but She's throwing parties with and dating the lowest of the low? That doesn't make much sense or any, and on top of that no one ACTUALLY HATE IMPS FOR BEING IMPS.

We're TOLD that "IMPS and hounds are the lowest of the low and the system oppresses them" but there are multiple imps who run successful businesses, farms, and aren't actively being oppressed like We're told.

Is Bee supposed to be like the great Gatsby? Throwing parties and letting anyone in? If that's the case why not mention it at the start of the episode? Luna is scared to go in because she wasn't invited but then Tex says you don't need an invitation to got to one of Bees parties, and have not just imps and hell hounds but all kinds of hell born, nobles, and maybe some Sinners

Honestly though why is it that most of the high class assholes we meet are fine with dating and being coached by the species that are supposedly treated like literal shit.

I don't know if it was ever explained but why couldn't the just take him with them when they went to confront Vox? Is there something preventing winners from going to hell? Was it ever actually said why he couldn't go to hell?

Why not have him go to hell and have Voxs plan blow up in his face giving Vox a bigger reason to crash out and go bat shit crazy?

What is Ice birds purpose in the story? He's kinda pointless as being a main villain couldn't Stella have done what he did? Or was he actually nessicary to the plan?

I gotta be honest there’s some things I like about Charlie Morningstar. not only she cares for others but also wants to help them. That instantly got my attention. I know some of you know me as a christian and I thought it‘d interesting what does the bible say about how to get to heaven? Romans 10:9 talks about placing faith in Jesus as our Lord and savior. Back to Hazbin hotel Charlie’s way of getting her people to redeem themselves is by trying harder to be better. but that’s not all, She believes that any and all demons can change, focusing on therapy, personal growth, and positive reinforcement to make them worthy of redemption. in addition she provide provide a safe space for sinners to stay, acting as the founder, owner, and head counselor to guide them toward better choices. that is a great start but there’s the thing though, Is it just about being "good"? Nope. The Bible teaches that human efforts, or "works," cannot earn entry to heaven because no one is perfect. which is why Faith in Jesus is the sole means of salvation. but what about good works? well they’re are not the cause of salvation, but are the result or evidence of a transformed life following Jesus. I do like Charlie trying to redeem sinners but the her being Lucifer’s daughter, the setting, and the characters considered demons just feels off. what do you guys think?

I’m MattSmuggy12, the guy who made this meme, and the guy who’s going to explain why I made it. So, for my explanation, I dislike Vivienne Medrano as a person and who she is. First things first, I do think her show can use improvement, but I’m not going to talk about that because I feel like it’s always talked about and everything has already been said about her show’s writing and consistency.

Anyways, I’m going to get straight to the point. I don’t like Vivienne Medrano as a person because she can’t handle criticism. She acts annoyed or stubborn when people criticize her. “Oh, but most of the criticism is harassment.” Yeah, fair point, but when it isn’t harassment, she’s either telling people to get lost (not word for word) or gets highly defensive and frustrated. Vivziepop isn’t free from criticism. There are going to be people who will criticize some flaws in your show, maybe even make light-hearted jokes about it (not talking about “if blank was written by Vivziepop”). But it’s the fact that she wants everyone to be kiss-ass to where she thinks criticism = hate.

I will cut Viv some slack though because I know assholes on the internet have harassed her because they’re homophobic/transphobic MAGA Christians. And also I know Viv is an SA victim, which is terrible. I genuinely feel sorry for Viv and I would NOT wish that on anyone. And also people who drew pictures of Viv being r*ped are fucking monsters because genuinely wtf.

But on the topic, that doesn’t excuse being a stubborn asshole to those who just want your show to improve.

If you’re passionate about your project and people who genuinely like it and want to see it become something better, then blocking or being some thin-skinned, arrogant, egotistical righteous goddess who can do no wrong, and everyone who criticizes are the enemy will make you be seen as an unlikable lolcow.

I believe her shows can be good. The art style is good and the visuals are amazing from what I’ve seen of it, but it does need improvements with consistency and writing.

So now to why I drew Viv as an exaggerated raging soyjak.

It was completely out of spite. I grew tired of a bunch of boot-licking scabs flocking towards the defense of Viv whenever someone says anything remotely negative about Viv or the show. I decided to draw the soyjak to represent both the artist and the fans. I know not all fans are like this, but a good majority of them are. I honestly grew tired of seeing other people’s opinions get dismissed or invalidated because their opinions weren’t “positive.” That honestly is just it, just wanted to make fun of Viv and the fans.

The drawing represents Viv because she’s the creator of her show, obviously. I was planning on having Viv’s fans represent Viv as small little clones, mostly to keep it gender neutral, but poetically the smaller clones of Viv as her fans represent how some fans act just like Viv. I just wanted to mock Vivziepop fans and Viv because I wanted to reflect on how ridiculous they can be when it comes to responding to critics or opinions online.

So now I should address how I came off when I made this tweet. I came off as a dick, and I only get enjoyment in seeing the misery of this specific indie artist. The intention was to mock how Viv responds to criticism, which is mostly blocking those in order to avoid it, but no, I came off more mean-spirited than intended. Am I sorry for that? Yeah, I’ll definitely improve on how I come off because I genuinely don’t want to be compared to those who made the horrific art of Viv being SA’d.

I’m a harsh critic, yes, but like, no, I’m nowhere near those cuckolds who do monstrous shit like that. But does my opinion on Vivienne Medrano still stand? Yeah, I still dislike how Vivienne Medrano is as a person, but it’s not like I can change who she is, so I’ll leave it at that.

So am I apologizing and addressing this now? Because the post blew up, which caught me by surprise. I even laughed seeing some of the pissed-off comments, but I just wanted to clarify that I am NOT like one of those sickos who drew that weird shit about Viv. I do not want to associate myself with those kinds of people, and I wanted to explain why I don’t like Viv, unlike those who just hate to hate.

But anyways, I’ll leave it here. I’ll most likely not talk about Viv for a while, mostly because I want to talk about other shit, but I’ll also address other stuff. I’ll still keep the post up because it’ll be a lesson for myself so I can learn from my mistakes, but yeah. This was my explanation. You're free to agree or disagree with this post, but I just wanted to address it.

Let's get this clear straight out The gate. Phoenyx doesn't like fighting. She's more of a protector and negotiator than a combat monster. But it must be stated that although she doesn't like violence, she's very good at it. She was, after all, designed to defend the borders of Heaven at her creation. And she is permanently and unwaveringly in love with Lucifer. It doesn't matter that this big purple dinosaur guy can't actually harm the King of Hell. The moment he laid a paw on the guy and threatened to do unpleasant things to him, it flipped Fee's bitch switch. She delivers a clear warning and fax it up with Angelic fire and if this individual is not smart enough to back off, then he'd better pray that Lucifer grabs his paramour and absconds to the hotel before his rump gets roasted.

I made this as a satire to the whole idea of Vivienne Medrano making hate merch of herself.