r/abiogenesis

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A detailed Eridian physiology and biochemistry model inspired by Project Hail Mary - It's a speculative model independently developed by me. So it serves as an alternative model for how Eridian breath is not canon to the Novels or the movie.

Recently, I have watched Andy Weir's novel based movie named Project Hail Mary, and it got me thinking about their metabolism and physiology, like what their energycycle is or what could be the atmospheric composition of their planet, and I independently developed a model with diagrams and chemical reactions which could answer this purely out of enthusiasm and respect. I purely built this from first principles.

Given Erid's constraints (Liquid NH₃ solvent, P ≈ 28 atm, T ≈ 210°C, no stable liquid H₂O), here's what the model proposes: Eridians absorb H2 transdermally and inhale CO2. Internally, H2 feeds an electron transport chain where N2 acts as terminal electron acceptor producing NH3 and ATP. That NH3 reacts with CO2 forming ammonium carbamate, which converts to urea — their primary excretory product. Surface bacteria decompose urea back into NH3, CO2 and H2, closing the planetary cycle completely.

The key conclusion: Eridians probably don't breathe ammonia at all. Their ammonia atmosphere is geological-scale metabolic waste — exactly like Earth's O2 was cyanobacterial waste but at macroscopic scale their planet physics allows this.

The biochemical reasoning is mine, diagram design assisted by Claude (Anthropic).

correct - Project Hailmary movie was released in 2026 not 2021.

LINK[ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XU6P5g5t48n14JxBL9h-

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u/ProfessionalCosmo002 — 4 days ago

Has anyone ever considered approaching Abiogenesis earlier than current assumptions?

If all the water in the oceans was in the atmosphere, the atmospheric pressure would be about 270 times higher than today. Water as a gas is a good greenhouse gas. In this early earth scenario, the surface would be molten, causing the water to remain boiled as steam, with the steam gas holding in the heat; hot vapor phase reactor.

This scenario would also have acids in the atmosphere, but not much in the way of bases. Many acids stem from gases like hydrochloric, nitric, sulfuric, etc. While simple bases like sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium hydroxide stem come from minerals and would stay molten, until liquid water appears. for the base reactions. When liquid water appears the pH begins to increase as more bases dissolve and interact with the acids.

If you look at the protonation states of phosphate, H3PO4 is favorable in strong acid conditions, while PO4-3 is favorable in strong base conditions. The middle state used by life would appear in a transitional zone; hot stormy atmosphere and boiling brine.

There is also a thing called steam distillation where steam can be used to vaporize oils way below the normal boiling point. Steam becomes a good solvent for oil. The Miller Urey experiments produced resinous solids which turned out to be polymers of HCN, which at high enough heat, break down into ammonia and oil; atmospheric oil/emulsion.

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u/wellwisher-1 — 6 days ago