r/toyotalandcruiser

I want to buy an LC 250 so badly, I know it's basically a tank on wheels and I'm expecting a 15mpg daily on average.

I currently drive a Honda CRV (40mpg on avg)

Has anyone else switched from a Hybrid or Non-gas guzzler vehicle to one of these beauties?

If so, what's it like? Is mpg not a concern for LC drivers?

Another update on my 2027 Land Cruiser battery issue, and at this point I honestly don’t know what else I’m supposed to do.

This vehicle is only about two months old, and the 12V battery has now died at least four times. Depending on how you count the earlier incidents, this may actually be the fourth or fifth complete battery failure.

After the previous failures, Toyota eventually managed to reproduce the problem. The original 12V battery failed their test, so they replaced it with a brand-new battery.

I thought that was finally the end of it.

It wasn’t.

After the battery replacement, I drove approximately 700 km in less than two weeks. Then the replacement battery went completely dead too. The vehicle wouldn’t unlock normally, wouldn’t respond to the key, and wouldn’t start.

So back to Toyota it went. Again.

This time they kept the vehicle for almost a week trying to figure out what was draining the battery.

Once again, they couldn’t find a clear root cause.

They told me the parasitic draw was within specification. However, they did find that the power wire for the Toyota/dealer-installed rust module had been connected to the wrong location. They moved the connection and told me that this might have been causing the battery problem.

The Land Cruiser then sat at the dealership for almost a week.

They told me there were no problems during that time. It started normally every time.

So on Thursday morning, I picked it up.

I drove it home and parked it.

One day.

That’s basically all it took.

On Friday night, the battery was completely dead AGAIN.

Same problem.

No response from the vehicle. Can’t start it.

After all of these visits, a brand-new battery, almost a week of testing, and the wiring correction they thought might explain it, the vehicle lasted approximately one day after I got it back.

I’m honestly beyond disappointed at this point.

And before people start blaming aftermarket electronics:

I have installed ZERO aftermarket accessories myself.

The dashcam, rust module and the various tags/security equipment on the vehicle were installed through Toyota/dealer channels.

I also barely use the Toyota App. I rarely even open it.

And when the vehicle is parked at home, both keys are stored inside a Faraday box, so they are not sitting beside the vehicle constantly communicating with it.

I keep hearing suggestions like:

“Stop posting on Reddit and contact Toyota Canada.”

I did.

I contacted Toyota Canada after the FIRST failure.

They responded and created a case for me. But in practical terms, it has gotten me nowhere.

The last time the Toyota Canada representative contacted me was around July 20 and asked me to call him.

I called.

Three separate times.

Every time I was told either he wasn’t available or he was busy and would call me back when he had time.

My last email to him was July 29.

Today is August 8.

I still haven’t received a response.

And during the time I’ve been waiting for Toyota Canada to respond, the vehicle has died another two times.

That’s the part I find unbelievable.

I’m not asking Toyota to magically diagnose an intermittent electrical problem over the phone. I understand these problems can be extremely difficult to reproduce.

But this is a two-month-old Land Cruiser.

The dealer has already had multiple opportunities to diagnose it.

They reproduced a battery failure.

They replaced the battery.

The replacement battery died.

They took the vehicle back.

They tested it again.

They found and corrected the rust-module wiring.

They kept it for almost a week and said it was starting normally.

I picked it up Thursday morning.

Friday night it was dead again.

What am I supposed to do at this point?

Canada doesn’t have the same type of lemon law that exists in some U.S. states, so I have now submitted my case to CAMVAP and I’m preparing to contact Canadian consumer/automotive media as well.

I have kept basically everything: repair orders, battery test results, diagnostic reports, emails, Toyota Canada correspondence, messages with the dealership, Toyota App screenshots, and the timeline of every failure.

I’m not trying to claim that I know what’s causing it.

Maybe it’s an intermittent module waking up. Maybe it’s a charging issue. Maybe it’s something else entirely.

I don’t know. That’s Toyota’s job to figure out.

What I do know is this:

I bought a brand-new Land Cruiser because Toyota — and the Land Cruiser specifically — has a reputation for reliability.

Instead, in approximately two months of ownership, I’ve had the 12V battery completely discharge at least four times, had the battery replaced, taken the vehicle back to Toyota repeatedly, and they still cannot tell me why it keeps happening.

At this point I can’t even trust the vehicle to start after sitting for one day.

How is that acceptable on a brand-new Land Cruiser?

And I genuinely want to know from other Canadian owners:

What would you do next?

Because right now it feels like unless an ordinary consumer makes enough noise — CAMVAP, Toyota executives, media, etc. — nobody has any urgency to actually take ownership of the problem.

I didn’t buy a new Land Cruiser so I could keep a booster pack beside it and wonder every morning whether the vehicle is going to unlock.

I just want Toyota to identify what’s wrong with the vehicle and actually fix it.

First, I want to explain my post from yesterday. Many people felt I was spamming. First of all, why would I post on Reddit if I didn't have any problems? Isn't Reddit a platform for discussion? I was spamming because several of my previous posts had low engagement, and my problem wasn't resolved. Isn't it normal to post on various Toyota or LC250-related platforms to let more people know about my situation? Partly to solve my own problem, and partly to help other owners find solutions to the same issue. Back to the car, many people are citing lemon law, but I'm Canadian, and there's no lemon law in Canada. There's no law or regulation that compels a dealership to take back a car when it has a problem. Regarding the rustproofing module, here's the thing: this car is a hybrid. When I bought it, the dealership told me it didn't have traditional paint-based rustproofing, only electronic rustproofing. They said there was a battery underneath, so they couldn't apply rustproofing directly to it. I was thinking of getting it done elsewhere, but the dealership told me that if I did it elsewhere, the warranty would be void, and they wouldn't be responsible. The problem is, the warranty was mandatory when I bought the car; otherwise, they wouldn't let me order it. So the issue is that I either accept their electronic rustproofing or don't get it done at all. But winters in Canada last for six months, and there are de-icing agents. If you live in an area where it snows, you know how much damage not doing rustproofing can do to the chassis. So the question is, can any car owners tell me what the purpose of electronic rustproofing is? Next, some people say, "I have a warranty anyway, why don't I just leave my car at the repair shop?" I've only had this car for two months, and I've already left it at the repair shop for a month. The longest I've left it in the repair shop's parking lot was two weeks, just to test why the battery was dead. Let me ask you, did I buy a brand new car to drive it or to leave it in the repair shop's parking lot? If you bought a new car and had to repair it 4-5 times in two months, wouldn't it be annoying to have to go to the repair shop every time? Wouldn't it be frustrating to find the battery dead when you need to use the car? Some people have asked why I never leave my car at the repair shop until they fix it. First of all, every time I take my car in for repairs, they tell me they can't find any problems. Their exact words are, "The car is perfect, there's no problem." Then they tell me to pick it up. And the time I parked it for two weeks, they told me to pick it up and I said the car was parked in their parking lot. The people at the repair shop told me that if any problems occurred with the car in the parking lot, they wouldn't be responsible. What do you mean by that? I know it's a dealership issue, and I'm not blaming Toyota headquarters. My problem is their lack of response. My case was filed in early June, and it's now August, and they haven't given me any reply or taken any action. It's been 18 days since their last response, and I've called Toyota headquarters three times but haven't been able to reach the person in charge of my case. Each time, they say they're unavailable or too busy and will contact me later. I left my email and phone number, and 10 days have passed with no progress. Regarding the dashcam, I already had the dealership check it, and they said it wasn't the problem. If I weren't desperate, I wouldn't be posting on Reddit every day. I go on Reddit to get helpful advice. Now, the dealership tells me not to jump-start the car and to call road assistance to tow it to the dealership for inspection. I'll also have them disassemble the aftermarket parts for testing. I've already contacted CAMVAP, media companies, and senior management at the dealership. If the problem remains unresolved, I will hire a lawyer to help me handle this.