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Alyosha/Odette teams for Sandrone compared to her 6.7 teams. V2 beta didn't change anything.

Calc assumptions:

• Alyosha stacks are 2.5 average
• Craftable claymore passive doesn't work properly on Sandrone (→ she's on Mailed for consistency)
• Yae Miko is on the Craftable in teams where she can proc it more consistently
• Odette is using r5 new Craftable on all teams

General takeaway:

- Alyosha pre c6 is worse than Qiqi.

- Alyosha c6 is better than Qiqi c6.

- Alyosha does not replace Yae Miko.

- Odette is the best Yae Miko replacement, still worse than Miko+Alyo flex until Odette c2.

- New Craftable is 7% better on Miko at r5 assuming she can proc it.

- Craftable passives don't work dealing direct Stellar DMG and the wielder has to be the one to trigger it.

- BP weapons are bad (Polearm is good).

- Odette goes new set if only there's no other set holder, otherwise she uses 4pc Disenchantment (yes, there's 3 4p set wielders in Miko+Odette+Alyo teams).

Linnea calcs with the new 7.0 Craftable bow! Day 0 calcs STC

Seems like Linnea has gotten a new BiS f2p weapon.

Zibai premium KQMS—Linnea uses DEF/DEF/CRIT for the weapon comparison, but triple DEF is slightly better for Aubade+Craftable

Day 1 Alyosha calcs!! + new Set second slide

Sandrone is on r5 Mailed Flower and Yae r5 Widsith unless stated otherwise.

Sandrone with the most recent 7.0 Craftable leaks!! v1 beta so take it with a grain of salt.

I saw people talking about SSC Lohen so I decided to calc it myself! It's surprisingly decent for a team with a dead slot..

Is it possible Lohen will have a future in SSC? Or am I just coping?

Full investment guide for Sandrone's team!! Including Sandrone, Yae Miko, Escoffier, Qiqi, Nicole and Beidou on the following slides.

Baseline teams all include Yae Miko, investment priorities may change slightly for non-Miko teams but it shouldn't deviate too much anyway.

Edit: I forgot Yae Miko's c2 self EM increase, the c2 itself is 113.8% of c1 and roughly a 10% increase across other cons for Team DPS. Thanks for the correction!

Hopefully finalized Sandrone DPS calcs for V5!! surely they won't change anything to live release.

Following slides include characters alternatives, Sandrone weapon and artifact investment, and vertical investment for each core member.

Yae Miko is still of large importance to Sandrone and her next best alternative, Beidou c6, is a 30%–40% team DPS loss, followed by Fischl. Ineffa can also function purely for her Electro app and burst EM buff, I suppose.

r1 Sandrone without Miko is 137k DPS (Escoffier-Qiqi-Beidou), or 5% worse than the pictured team.

— if you don't have Miko and aren't pulling on the Chronicled banner for any other reason, you should pull for Sandrone's signature instead as it's more cost efficient and future-proof (although I don't believe she's getting replaced any time soon) than pulling Miko off the Chronicled banner.

4th flex slot best alternatives to Nicole include Iansan, Sucrose, Beidou, Xilonen, and Diona, in that order. Do note that Sucrose has to swap in twice, once during the set up and then again in the middle of Sandrone's uptime for her buffs, which can make the team much worse on high ping.

Sandrone is able to fully maintain c4+ Iansan buff by moving around in her CA, thought I'm not sure about <c4 Iansan.

Sandrone's cons are still really underwhelming unfortunately, the best stopping point seems to be c0r1 and hoping her future supports have better vertical.

Once again, I'll try to be active in the comments regarding questions/suggestions!

Updated Sandrone calcs for v4!! Yae Miko buffs + Stellar field changes

r5 Tidal Shadow is a -3% or -4k DPS decrease for the top team, for those who don't have Mailed Flower. I'll be updating my weapon ranking soon.

I'm down for suggestions/questions!! I'll try to be active in comments.