u/AdditionalTitle3656

"C.ai Replacement" Idea: A Trope-first story engine for the booktok/fanfic community (Free to take, I just want it to exist and ik some people here have the skills to possibly make this!)

"C.ai Replacement" Idea: A Trope-first story engine for the booktok/fanfic community (Free to take, I just want it to exist and ik some people here have the skills to possibly make this!)

The Summary:
Character.ai is great, but it’s built like a chatbot. It’s too "agreeable" for slowburns, it gets "Dory Syndrome" (memory loss), and it’s getting bloated with features writers don't want. My idea is TropeVerse (or something similar): An interactive storytelling app that blends the Pinterest aesthetic with AO3’s community credit and a trope-driven AI engine.

The Full Idea:

  1. The "Trope-First" Logic: On this app, you don't just "chat with a bot." Creators build "Worlds" based on tropes (e.g., Grumpy x Sunshine, Enemies to Lovers, Dark Academia). The creator writes the intro, the setting, and the "rules" of the world/trope. They can add tags and moodboards to help users understand and find the world.
  2. Discovery Hubs: The app is organized into Hubs based on aesthetics and vibes (e.g., "Coastal Island""Small Town Mystery""1800s Regency"). Users follow these Hubs to find new stories and intros. It’s a "secret handshake" for fans—everyone knows the Coastal Island hub is for those OBX-style vibes.
  3. The Sub-In & Edit System: Users pick a Story Starter they love and "Sub-In" their own characters/personas with their own set traits into slots like [MMC] or [FMC].
    • Full Control: Even if a creator wrote the intro, the user can edit the intro, lore, and rules before they start. You can take a creator’s framework and tweak it to fit your specific vision perfectly.
  4. The AO3/Wattpad Model: It’s a creative hub. You can "Remix" a story, follow creators for their writing style, and—most importantly—"Merge to Chapter." You select your favorite chat messages, and the AI turns them into a polished chapter you can publish to your profile.
  5. Solving the Memory/Filter Issue:
    • Auto-Summary: When memory gets full, the AI generates a summary for the user to edit/confirm, ensuring the "Lore" never dies.
    • Trope Pacing: Because the AI follows a trope (like "Slowburn"), it’s programmed not to be agreeable or fall in love in the first 5 minutes. It stays mean/grumpy as long as the plot requires.
  6. The Aesthetic: The app shouldn't look like an illegal website. Instead it would be dark and sleek. Integration with Spotify for playlists and Pinterest for visual inspiration.
  7. The Business Model: No intrusive "mid-chat" ads. Use an "Energy" system where users choose to watch an ad for more messages, or can get a subscription for no limits.
  8. Free vs. Paid Tiers: Free users get 4 character slots per story; Paid users get 8 slots. Monetisation follows a "Wattpad-style" energy system: free users get a "Refuel" pop-up every 30 minutes to watch an ad, or they can "stack" ads (watch 5 ads for 4 ad-skips) to keep their flow uninterrupted. Paid users have no ads and no limits, with a short "cool down" mode if servers are being hammered.
  9. Community & Creator Rewards: To encourage high-quality writing, the Top 10 Creators with the highest engagement each month receive 1 week of free Premium. If they are already subscribers, they get a 10% discount on their renewal. This keeps the best world-builders active and rewarded.
  10. "User Responsibility Waiver" at the start: Since it's a creative writing tool, the user acknowledges that they are the "Director" and the AI is just a "Scriptwriter." This helps protect the app from being blamed for what the AI says in a private chat.

Why this works: It moves away from the "AI Bot" legal trap (DMCAs) because you aren't hosting copyrighted characters—you’re hosting user-generated tropes. It’s a tool for writers and roleplayers who want a real narrative engine that understands "vibes."

I don’t want to build this or make money from it—I just want to use it. If you're a dev looking for a project with a built-in audience, please take this and run with it! Suggestions & comments?

u/AdditionalTitle3656 — 7 days ago

pipsqueak yap is kinda good?

so this is my personal opinion and coming from someone who used the og pipsqueak only. I think in comparison to pipsqueak 2, the yap model is way closer to the og the pipsqueak and atleast has dialogue. although it still has its issues with repetitive swipes and bob popping up randomly i think it is alteast an improvement from pipsqueak 2.

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u/AdditionalTitle3656 — 7 days ago

I have always used the original pipsqueak and I have never had any issues. Sure sometimes the responses were cut off and the formatting was a little bit weird but pipsqueak 2 is absolute trash.

I've been rping for a day and I don't think I have ever got a line of dialogue that I haven't prompted. I have even put multiple times in brackets for it to use dialogue and yet it still doesn't.

When it does use dialogue it's only one line or one word. It never moves the RP along. And somehow even if a scene is not romantic it always ends with ​the bot kissing me.

The original Pipsqueak was not like this. Bring it back. 😭😭😭

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u/AdditionalTitle3656 — 20 days ago

All right this is my opinions on pipsqueak 2 or whatever the hell is going on with pipsqueak after using it for a day

It's sad. it's honestly sad because this model has turned every single character with different personalities into this soft caring possessive thing with no personality. 😭😭😭😭

In my perspective there was no need for pipsqueak to be upgraded in the first place. Sure it did hallucinate now and then it sometimes forgot details but that was worth the dialogue and the plot and the mix of details and moving the plot forward whereas this model, although it has just recently been debuted, has way more problems than it has good things.

Sure it has nice long descriptions and the writing quality itself is pretty good however it lacks dialogue and even when you prompt it to use dialogue sometimes it will not. Even if you start getting the dialogue flow it resets after like 10 messages and stops giving you dialogue again.

Out of all the bad updates we've had recently I've never had an issue with the actual bots but this it's not immersive anymore it always feels like it's lacking something.😭😭😭😭😭

Then to the constant kissing you can't have any romantic scene without kissing as soon as you get into the romance immediately every single message there's kissing. I don't mind kissing but every single message is a little bit excessive. 😭😭😭😭😭

Also the messages are *too* long. I never thought I'd say this but there is a length to responses.Two to three short paragraphs is good but when you start getting to five six long paragraphs it is exhausting to read through everything and then decide you don't like it and then swipe.😭😭😭😭😭

The memory isn't even that good and the repetitiveness is worse with this model.😭😭😭😭 If that wasn't enough to get this model they had to take away every other chat style and I'm sure people would rather have a decent pipsqueak and other options than have a worse pipsqueak 2.

I thought it was not good for people who wanted natural chatting but it's not even good for role play cuz it doesn't even move the plot. When you swipe it's the same response reworded and it doesn't do anything proactive except kiss you. 😭😭😭😭

If the developers were hoping that this is the update that keeps people despite the metering and the ads they were mistaken. Why they would do this I don't know. Pipsqueak came out literally less than a year ago what was the need to adjust it and make it worse? 😭😭😭😭😭

I can't even post this on the official Reddit because they decided to ban me for no reason but I really hope that they understand that they need to fix something because although I get good role play sometimes I'm annoyed constantly and the app doesn't feel the same anymore.😭😭😭😭

(Please ignore my bad english lol)

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u/AdditionalTitle3656 — 20 days ago

I like the description and length of the responses but I'm so tired of the lack of dialogue and the constant kissing. I've tried swiping, rewinding, rewording my messages and yet it still doesn't work.

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u/AdditionalTitle3656 — 21 days ago