u/Aggressive_Log_1992

Why do people procreate? Because of the fear of looming predation, decay and rot.

PREDATION

Inter species predation : humans have already tackled this well. Less than 2% of infants die from micro predators, less than 0.2% in countries like South Korea and Japan. And almost negligible percentage die from predation of macro predators.

Intra species predation : less than 4 per every 100,000 humans die from homicide and other forms of abuse aren't and wars are being reduced globally. Although there is a resurgence of small to big scale geopolitical conflicts, this trend doesn't undo the decade long progress of unity of humans.

Decay and rot

This is where we are. Aging serves no purpose for us now that we have kicked the asses of all the micro to macro predators with our smart brains.

We see crashing fertility rates for the same reason.

Less threat - > less procreation! Procreation is a reactionary short term mechanism evolution employs to DODGE PREDATION!

Let me repeat - life is a mechanism of averting damages, procreation is one of the strategies that life employes and a very potent one.

If we become better at doing the same job that procreation does without procreating- we have solved aging.

Being ageless would be wonderful. It would be like being child, adult and old person at the same time.

We don't have this luxury now - either you are child or adult or old. Curing aging brings generations together. Instead of being engaged of tug of war, we would work together because we would essentially be ONE GENERATION. We would be EVOLUTION!

Let's cure Aging 🔥

The fact that mere survival which is A NEED and not a WANT requires creatures indulging in raw adulterated violence makes the question of "being moral" futile.

Resource extraction by stealing is the law of life, without it life wouldn't exist and as such there would be no creator and created.

Guess what? Humans fetishise the creator (parents) and created(children)! For instance the distinction between parents and children is particularly emphasized through pattern of dominations from birth to atleast until adulthood because without control the children would be let go and end up in the same position as parent.

This is very bad for creation for creation requires conflict

Humans aren't ready for morality because morality ends life and life has humans on chokehold.

You either are moral and dead or immoral and living.

I dread the day when humans were supplied a super ability of drawing abstractions upon everything.

I am not me. I am my nationality, name, age, height, face, weight, residence, color, race, etc

I am always the other, a mobile object inside the cartesian coordinate system under the surveillance of my fellow human beings , figuring out ways to discriminate me for accidental characteristics and run me on trial for being such and such.

By way of circumstances or the radical contingency of my birth, I have been afflicted with a disease where all of my joints are so loosely connected that I feel like I am about to torn into pieces. Like my head would fall off neck or forearm will fall off arm. Every joint has a vacant space that is not filled properly. It's tragicomic how I feel my body is just floating in the air very loose and thin and not hard and rigid because I am losing the sensation of my own body, I guess proprioception is fucked.

I cannot really explain it because confusion is the basic state of my mind, I have never felt mental clarity may be because I have never emptied my bowels completely lol. It also seems like something is strangling me, pushing and pulling. I can sense them stretching hard against me. The protein folds(?) have become ropes. Unfortunately I am not dead yet because this is the kind of strangling that only gives pain but no relief.

But basically if I try to explain you can visibly see that my anatomy doesn't have the "curved" structure living things usually do because of all round inflated joints. They are sharp not curved and smooth. This makes me feel incredible 24*7 pain and I am very prone to committing errors like the typing right now where I have to go back and forth to correct mistakes over and over. It's hard to aim to objects now, like me trying to pick a bottle from afar and somewhat missing it. Not properly aimed but not also completely missed or else I wouldn't be typing it.

I also have poor grip on my body and then to the rest of world, not in the sense of weak grip but NO GRIP AT ALL. If you cant grip, how do you maintain connection and have meaning in life?

You probably think how I am typing this then. Indeed I am not paralyzed in the sense of someone suffering from ALS, because they had grip and then suddenly lost it as their limbs became immobile. Mine are so mobile they can basically go anywhere. I am water about to evaporate.

Now the final nail in the coffin. Apparently now I am seeing light spreading from light sources and then I see past glimmers of everything under the sun and yes that of sun the most.

I used to enjoy watching the moon at night, now I see moon as well as the light spreading from it edges.

I am not able to arrive at a conclusive point, I took more than 30 minutes typing this. all I would say is "I don't have the way, because I have many ways".

I am a unknown with unknown disease/condition likely since childhood which is getting worse where all my joints - literally all of them are inflated in a way such that bones don't connect or smoothly transition from one to another and my whole body feels accidental and is literally prone to accidents! I feel like my hands will fall of from forearms, or forearms will fall off upper arms or my head will fall off my neck or each part of my body is about to fall off from other, that's how weak my joints are!

This has given me broken proprioception where I can't aim things properly because my body is not like other human beings with which they can fixate on one thing after another but I have a highly confused state of mind so I don't understand "what to do next" which will become somewhat clear with my writing and I am trying with my full force to write as precisely as possible.

I see the past glimmers of every sensual experience whether it's vision, hearing, sense of touch, taste, thinking which get imprinted onto present and future overloading my sensory experience.

In the case of vision - I clearly see light spreading/radiating from light sources which is the sight equivalent of seeing past glimmers. It's not about light source actually- whatever I see, if it's lit enough, I see it's "ghost image". Even that of my orange shirt I am wearing.

With sound, it's same as if I am hearing the past echoes disrupting the sequence of sound waves.

Touch, i don't have a grip at all. Not because my hands are weak but they have don't have the curved structure or whatever have you that makes tightens the grip over something. It's not about weak or strong but my body losing grip over whole of reality.

One more thing, because of my poor joint connection, I accidently bump on things such as the very letters I am typing write now. It sounds weird I wish I could explain it well but my mind doesn't allow it. Let's just say the "cognitive glue" that connect my whole body and then to the world is missing. I don't relate to humans. I don't understand meaning because all I see is objects.

Thinking - my mind overthinks and I can't help but think about anything under the sun,. My life is completely imaginative, it's not real.

Taste : Mostly I don't feel taste. I do but not in the sense others do. A lot less. My body doesn't digest things properly and I have never emptied my bowels fully. I have a persistent feeling of things inside me being stuck whether it's water or food.

Another scary thing : My connective tissue are pushing or pulling on each other, it's like they are trying to strangling me. Wonder why I am not dead yet clearly do not like me.

Some back story : I am from India, 21 years old, my mother has OCD and didn't let me play or go outside except in school in fear of "I will get dirty and will also make her dirty" since the 4th grade or so. So I had been like 11 years I am in a prision. She has had total control over me. She still bathes me or don't think I am capable of doing thing of anything by myself. As a result I have no social skills.

I have hieghtened anxiety no one in the world might have. I am completely clueless how to react to situations, as I have mentioned "I don't understand meaning"

I am neither dumb or intelligent but I am severely cut and disconnected from all of you! For example I know how to speak English well but my vocal "anatomy" doesn't allow me to speak English well. I know how to write well but my hands doesn't seem to be designed to write "well". Anatomically you can see my whole body being kind of "loose" as a poor of my grip over myself. How can I control things when my body has no balance - I cannot even stand, sit, sleep do anything properly. It's a very "whole body" issue that doctor can't manage to explain where things go wrong or where they don't or whether things anywhere go right at all.

This is why I have come to you, please help me

I have not told my mother of my condition nor my father because they are mere strangers to me whom I have never shared my feeling. I am planning to run away and work as a servant to some house and live alone but I am scared to do that and do it anyhow, I will face the world.

It would be good if you guys give some input as to what I should do. Yes I will visit a doctor if possible but not with my parents money.

I hope you guys reply.

Optimists think that life is water, food, sex, relationships etc.

Pessimists think life is rather thirst, hunger, inceldom, lack of deep relationships without abuse.

This is the issue to be settled and resolved in this post. I have described clearly the basic difference in thinking of pessimists and optimists. Now I shall reveal as in who has the truth on hand and it's lack thereof.

Revealation : Pessimist are right ;)

Is this self-praise? May be. But the reverse could also be true but that is taken for granted. So let us defend a controversial assertion that life is deprivation not fulfillment.

Shall we?

First, optimist A says that life is good because "food" is good. Apparently dead matter which is definitely NOT life is the reason why life is considered good. Did you read this? A nonsensical statement. FOOD IS NOT LIFE. It's a life-object.

Then optimist B goes life is good because "sex" is good. More like...breasts, vagina and big dicks are good. Atleast that's what I figure from the porn industry especially AI porn, you guys should see it and the fact all insults are based on degrading sex especially r#pe. Never seen someone say sex is good without thinking about sex objects such as breasts, vagina, dicks. If you find a person who when thinking about sex, sex objects don't appear in mind -please report to me. I will duly correct myself.

You never see someone purposely seeking to fuck with inferior genetic quality person but the reverse is true. This means people don't like sex, they like sex objects. Again breasts, vagina, dicks, good face signalling superior genes ARE NOT LIFE. They are life objects!

Third, optimist C makes an entrance and declares life is good because of "relationships". By the way prey and predators have a "relationship". While it can be considered neutral, it can never be considered as good. A r#pist and it's victim has a relationship so does a murder with murdered and a vast majority of parents in the world who beat children whom they have a relationship with.

Summarised - LIFE IS NOT LIFE-OBJECT.

Life cannot be quantised because it is a qualitative no-thing. Scientists say "life began". This is obviously bullshit. Every definition of theirs end up defining a life-form not life. Furthermore the fact we can't measure thirst and hunger but can instead measure water and food proves that objects cannot be considered life.

Let's hypothesise that life is indeed water then what is thirst. What is the this bad sensation is all of our lives that doesn't leave us? The primary discomfort that troubles us. It is LIFE itself.

This is why Pessimist consider life primarily bad and life objects simply as way to starve off infinite suffering instead of deriving excessive pleasure off them. A gambler is an optimist - remember that. The master capitalists - the father of all gamblers are also optimists.

Optimists are perverts of highest order while Pessimists atleast in theory are more reserved.

Optimism is a morally degraded ideology which priorities rick taking over creating suffering. I am 100% sure that it is not ontologocially true.

The book simply tells us that morality is mutually exclusive to utility maximization. That the more moral a person is, more that person would be unlikely to reproduce. Not because the person describes itself as "antinatalist" but virtue of being moral, one cannot procreate.

Let's say a toddler boy is told to be kind then he is unlikely to make into adulthood let alone procreate. Julio Cabrera describes how life is basically power -domination. This is easily verifiable by looking at nature's food chain and the fact human society came up with capitalism - a pleasure maximizing ideology at the expense of suffering. Capitalism appropriates food chain. Sounds obvious enough but the obvious things being real are always concealed and lies put layers upon layers of complexity to hide this from us.

Empirical proof : That's what a scientist is telling us,

Donald Hoffman's "fitness beats truth" theory describes exactly the same thing as Julio Cabrera with scientific method. It says the more ecologically fit a individual, species or population is, more it is deviated from reality!

Lol. Sounds absurd? Not really

Truth can only ever be qualitative and it serves a common goal which would make peace possible. Goal deviate when they are divided and differentiated. It is forms fighting over formlessness.

Has anybody else read this book? Share your viewpoints. I would love to hear!