u/Agitated-Sweet-4022

How can anyone deny the genocide in Tigray, but especially Amhara nationalists? How can you deny what happened in Tigray and then claim Amharas are being genocided?

What happened in Tigray could go down as one of the worst things that ever happened in Ethiopia. All the rapes, killings, and displacement. The whole country was against them. There were two whole countries and a region with over 25 million people (not saying all Amhara's) actively trying to ethnically cleanse them. So many famous people came out supporting the atrocities, and government officials were calling the people “children of the devil.” Like come on, half of the things done and said to Tigray people are not even comparable. Not to mention the death toll, not even half of it happened in Amhara.

There are cities in the Amhara region that are still functioning normally even though they are actively fighting against the government. Even after the war, the whole region of Tigray still cannot function properly.

Neutrals perspective, I love both people and i hope one day that they can unit under common enemy but when i see the hypocrisy and double standards its just disappointing.

I know this might be a controversial opinion, but I honestly think Emperor Yohannes IV did more for Ethiopia than Tewodros II.

Both of them had their flaws. Tewodros's mistake was thinking he could take on the British Empire by kidnapping their citizens and forcing them to make weapons. Yohannes’s mistake was trusting the British too much later on. Also, both of them were responsible for killing many people in Gojjam and Wollo—history shows neither side was perfect.

I know many people hate on Yohannes because of what he did to the Muslims (forced conversions and killings). It was a dark time, but I don't think Yohannes should be blamed more than Tewodros or other rulers who also used violence. His reason was that he thought the only way to unite Ethiopia was through one religion, especially because he feared people would ally with the Mahdists. Also, if some people see Ahmad Gragn as a hero, then Christians shouldn't be shamed for seeing Yohannes as a hero too.

The main reason I think Yohannes was better was his determination to protect the country. He defeated the Egyptians twice, the Italians, and the Mahdists. In the end, he died on the battlefield defending his country and his people.

Some people say he betrayed Tewodros, but Menelik II did the same thing. Even though Tewodros took Menelik under his wing after his father died, Menelik still escaped back to Shewa and didn't want anything to do with him and would have fought against him if he had power. and also Menelik accepted weapons from Italians so he could attack Yohannes from behind while they try from the north.

Don’t forget what he did for the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. In 1878, he held the Council of Boru Meda. Before this, the Church was fighting itself for centuries. Yohannes made everyone follow one doctrine (Tewahedo), which finally ended the "Era of the Princes" within the Church and brought peace to the clergy.

He also cared about Ethiopia's name outside the country. He used his own money to buy land in Jerusalem, where he built the Kidane Mehret church (the famous circular one with the black dome) within the Debre Gannet monastery complex. He built this entire place to house Ethiopian monks and pilgrims. He even bought nearby houses to provide rental income, so the monks would always have money for food and supplies. This gave Ethiopian pilgrims a place to stay and showed the world that Ethiopia was still a powerful Christian nation in the Holy Land.

Finally, we should remember that the modern Ethiopian flag (Green, Yellow, and Red) was first used by Yohannes (before the flags where separately used he made them in to one flag), and he used the Lion of Judah as his seal for official letters. If you walk down "Ethiopia Street" in Jerusalem today, you will see the Imperial Lion of Judah carved above the doorway of the monastery—a direct reminder of the Ethiopian Emperors like Yohannes IV who funded and protected it.

I’m not saying Tewodros was bad he laid the foundation for the country. But Yohannes is the one who actually defended that foundation and fixed the internal problems.

This has nothing to do with ethnicity, so please don't be hateful. Both are heroes of Ethiopia, but I think Yohannes deserves more credit.

What do you guys think?

It sounds so majestic and the accent . Why does it sound so different from Amharic ( I know they're two different languages but they have the same origin). Doesn't get me started with the music even though I don't know what's being said I still listen to it. And can anyone tell me which is older from the two .