u/Ananius59

My Pocket Option complaints about martingale system

In case any of you want to try it, or if they are reading this.

As some know, I've done a lot of AI trading with them last few months, and it has been going well, went $800 -> $1300 with no IQ.

Now, however, I've gone from $1300 -> $1000 so far. Enough for me to raise some concerns with this particular AI part.

I've been doing newly added 'AI trader' (the 3rd mode). Before I was in Pro mode, and everything was great. But the AI trader addition is essentially a martingale. So when a bot loses, it doubles down, and then triples down, etc (however many times you let it). It can essentially zero your acc, if you set settings like that (although chances are low).

My previous thoughts were right though, in that if AI starts to lose, it will continue losing, at least for foreseable ftuture - because it operates with the same information. It needs a soft 'reset' (like 10 seconds or so, at least), to get new data in, and recalibrate.

With martingale, it seems like it doesnt get that reset. It just pushes, and pushes. So far, It really has not been going my way.

I've tried the anti-martingale system, and it also wasnt really that amazing. There are 3 other modes there as well ('fibonacci', 'Fixed' and 'Parlay), and i havent tried thouse but idk if I want to now. I'd better go to Pro mode which was working great.

The settings for martingale need to be changed, there needs to be more time delay before taking the next swing. I really think so, unless I'm missing something.

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u/Ananius59 — 2 days ago

My Pocket Option trading strategy for AI: what I do to make it profitable

Did a few hundreds of trades (too many to count, wish they had a counter somewhere). Raised +62%, from $800 to almost $1300. Which admittedly isn't crazy numbers, but there were no sharp fallofs either. Was all pretty steady, and I farmed a lot of gems and bonuses, while not being stressed.

latest trades were a somewhat different test, but still AI

So, my strategy right now for AI trading here is:

  1. EUR/USD or AUD/CAD otc. Pretty much any major pair with 92 % payout. I don't see an issue with OTC, it didnt materialize, and the payouts are usually more stable and higher, plus I can trade on weekends, so no real downside so far.
  2. Never more than 1 trade at a time. I tried using AI trade button like 10 times at the same time, but they're always in 1 direction. So you're essentially just amplifying the trade. There's no new data coming in, so the bot just goes for 1 side, full stop. For me, it lead to amplified losses, most of the time. I noticed that the bot is more confident when its a wrong trade. It just goes for it. But when its wishy-washy, and out of my 10 fast trades, 7 are one side, and 3 another, then the trade is most likely a good one, and it will result in a payout. Idk how their algo works exactly, but for now that's how it is.
  3. Therefore, I usually tap every 3-5 seconds, when I have the time. Just like some mindless game, exept with real payouts. If I see a bot has made 5 wrong trades in a row, I wait for 10-30 seconds, and let it rebalance. Usually after that much time, there is new data coming in, and it starts trading completely fresh.
  4. Losing and winning streaks are real. I am opbviously posting here after having a nice winning one. But I dropped to as low as $697 at one point in time. Still not as bad as my own trading, but I honestly thought I would go down with the ship. Thankfully it recovered.
  5. I am trading in Pro mode, and it works well. New 'AI trader mode' - havent tested yet, just starting trying it now. I know it has been out for some weeks, and I hope they ironed out any bugs (if there were any), so I can test it properly.

The biggest pro for me was that it wasnt difficult, or time consuming. I notice most Pocket option trading strategies involve timing the market, being in the right place at the right time, watching charts 6 hours a day. I just tapped the button on my phone from time to time. I even disabled sound notifications, just so that it's even more seemless. I dont care if an AI lost or won at any given point in time. But it made my few weeks with this strategy pretty fun, I was never bored, I always ahd something to do.

Now I'm gonna try the new 'AI trader' mode they added, with martingale. This was all done in 'Pro mode' , and even before that, in just regular QT mode, there were no modes bck then. Idk why they added 2 new modes now, and what the difference is, will try testing this out. I think martingale is highly risky, but since there are limits there, I shouldnt lose all the $1300 I've farmed.

Any questions or suggestions are welcome, I can test stuff you suggest if it sounds interesting. It's not a life-changing money to me, but it's a decent sum, so I won't test just obviously troll ideas though, sorry 😊

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u/Ananius59 — 9 days ago

Reporting on my AI trading experience so far

Doing the AI challenge, as first small breakpoint was reached, reporting here as promised. The point of the challenge is to see is pocket option good for AI trading they have, or if its better doing it on my own.

To check this, for the last 2 weeks I am doing purely AI trading, pressing the blue AI button, making no real decisions of my own, just flying blind. This took a bit longer than expected, because so far at PO, the AI trades about 50-50. Maybe 60-40% (but since payout is 92%, it ends up being a slow grind either way).

My updated 'strategy':
- increased my trades from 2$ to 25$, just to speed this up a bit.
- started doing more OTC trades, despite what people here suggested (idk why you are against it, would like to hear an explanation). I like OTC because it works on weekends, where I have more time to press the button.
- did a few of my own trades, just to compare. Unfortunately lost all of them. Otherwise would be at $1k clean here.

started with $800 btw. My list of trades:

https://preview.redd.it/xyt582l63ghh1.png?width=1529&format=png&auto=webp&s=6b3e72ba219a8199cea00954012c365b3a5c4f24

But really, there has been quite a lot of them, I'm not kidding. Its just the recent ones. The winrate is pretty close to 53%, if payout is included, I would say. Admittedly, its better than what I have.

https://preview.redd.it/y1sfnrui3ghh1.png?width=3093&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3582054f74e9f8e96e7f035949ad5602c4e48cd

That is just from one day. Hopefully someone appreciates what I'm doing here, for science =D

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u/Ananius59 — 16 days ago

Crazy Challenge, AI and Yolo. Part 1: First Results

Not gonna repeat myself, here was part 0 - https://www.reddit.com/r/binaryoptions/comments/1uvvg74/crazy_challenge_trading_purely_through_ai/

Since then, according to comments and suggestions, decided to go purely EUR/USD for now (you guys are seriously against OTC, even though it has higher % payout, idk).

So far, 11 trades, 7 wins, 4 losses. You can see it was purely AI by the blue checkmark near every trade. So far, was 0 decisons from me, I didn't time it, purely pressed the button when I had the time. 1 minute chart, 5$ amounts.

$819 from $800, for now.

https://preview.redd.it/07za6zr0zleh1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=a843f9dcb70e752204e029ea1ea5e06e644eb756

https://preview.redd.it/kjztn72dzleh1.png?width=419&format=png&auto=webp&s=fed925e7ed0942ec8fb130c499e85888b4829688

If you have any questions/suggestions, I will gladly take them, since I'm just pressing the button anyway. Except I dont think I'm gonna do the trades in Pocket Option app, since I like screenshotting from PC better.

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u/Ananius59 — 30 days ago

Crazy challenge: trading purely through AI!

So lets test, is pocket option good for beginners. Got inspired by /u/Capital-Shoulder-506, but my challenge is even crazier. I will try trading purely thorugh their AI. No thought, no strategy. Heard conflicting ideas on how it could work, and whether its feasable or not. Let's check! Will update every few days, when will have time.

Starting capital is $800. Whether I go to $0 or to Valhalla, let's see!

Also, which pair should I go for? Leaning to either EUR/USD, or BTC.

wish me luck

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u/Ananius59 — 1 month ago