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Disclosure: I wrote this myself and only used AI to fix typos and grammar.

Here's what we know for certain. Callum pleaded guilty and was sentenced for making and possessing CSAM, and we now know almost all of it depicts real children. Josh hasn't been charged, but the mods have confirmed evidence that he groomed a minor.

One important unknown is whether the remaining five members knew. I want to explain why that matters, and why a lot of the comments here are feeding a culture that lets abuse go unchecked.

There are several allegations about Callum, some directly related to CSAM and some more general:

• One of his exes, who was a minor and 8 to 10 years younger than him while they dated, claims she found a password-protected folder of CSAM on his phone, including children she knew. She says she alerted Toby and maybe the rest of the team, and got harassed, called a "vile bitch," and accused of trying to ruin Callum. She's implied other victims have reached out to her since.
• Another ex has implied Callum was abusive and that none of the allegations surprised her, and that other victims have contacted her too.
• An old friend claims he saw the folder the first ex described and confronted Storror. People have questioned his credibility, and he's posted trying to explain why he didn't go to the police and kept training with Callum anyway.
• Various people in the parkour community have said or implied that Callum often made women uncomfortable.

Disclaimer: I have never met anyone involved, so technically, I can't even confirm things like whether the first victim is really Callum's ex or that her age is accurate. But these details have been corroborated by people close to Storror and the mods and seem to be generally accepted now, so I'll treat them that way.

If the ex's claims are true, then Storror was presented with allegations of Callum's crimes and chose to keep him as a core member, which gave him access to kids and potential victims, online and in person, through the platform, as well as allowed him to continue abusing his partners.

So are these claims true? The hard truth is that we don't know and probably never will. There likely isn't any physical evidence that the ex confronted Storror, and even if there were, you'd never see it with your own eyes. All any of us can do is decide whether we believe the victim.

1. Why didn't they go to the police earlier? Trauma changes how the brain reasons, and more so for underage victims. While the abuse is happening they're just trying to protect themselves, and when it's someone older and close to them who holds power over them, they feel helpless or like they somehow deserved it. Reporting someone they care about is especially hard, even when they or others are being harmed. It isn't as black and white as people make it out to be, and it's a well-documented pattern in domestic violence and sexual abuse cases. And even when victims do report, they're often dismissed by police, which is a whole other can of worms.
2. Why post online now instead of going to the police? They likely did go to the police — the first victim says she did. A public statement can do things a report can't: warn others in the community, push back on a narrative they see as false or speculative, and begin to heal by finally letting go of something they've carried for a long time.
3. When multiple accusers describe the same pattern, it usually means there's something to it. Here it's two reasonably reliable victims plus several people describing behavior that was concerning even if not criminal. We should avoid cherry-picking stories that fit, especially unprovable ones, but when a pattern emerges it's a mistake to dismiss it.
4. False accusations are rare enough that you shouldn't default to disbelief. Your knee-jerk reaction should never be to reject the allegations outright, whether by trying to discredit the victims due to their jobs or with vibes-based excuses for Storror like "exes make up stories all the time."

So how should we respond to the claims about whether Storror knew?

1. Coming forward is an incredibly vulnerable thing for victims to do. Both women who did it publicly got hateful messages, and the first has been repeatedly dismissed as an OF model with a brain injury chasing clout. Commenters dissected inconsequential inconsistencies and blamed her for not going to the police at the time. The nastiest comments are a vocal minority, but they disproportionately cause pain to victims who are trying to share their side of the story. I feel it is obvious that the first ex isn't taking advantage of this to promote her modeling.
2. Prioritizing neutrality above all else tilts the field against the victims. It's good to want the truth, and it's genuinely hard when all you have are individual accounts. But if your standard to believe the victims is publicly verifiable evidence, then you've set a bar that can't be met. Short of Storror confirming or denying it, no hard evidence is coming, so if you reserve judgment until there's proof, you'll be waiting forever. Furthermore, withholding judgment isn't as neutral as it feels. When the people on the fence far outnumber the victims speaking up, all that doubt lands on them and discourages the next person from coming forward. Neutrality has a cost and a direction here. We should lean toward believing the victims rather than hide behind objectivity which, whether you mean it that way or not, only favors Storror.
   1. Even well-intentioned skepticism has a cost. You may feel like you're just asking clarifying questions and investigating the truth, but victims can tell when you really want to understand them vs. trying to catch them out, especially when they're outnumbered. If the claims are true, this treatment piles unnecessary pain on people who are already hurting. Victim statements deserve support and an open mind, not suspicion and hostility.
3. Storror hasn't even responded to the claims yet, and plenty of people here have already decided the claims are false or have made excuses on their behalf. Comments floating the possibility that the team knew are quickly buried under angry replies blindly defending them and insisting they obviously didn't — even though neither side has hard proof. Right now, they are the only party who could actually settle this, and they haven't. That's why it's wrong to declare them innocent and say that it's obvious they didn't know.
4. Innocent until proven guilty is the backbone of a lot of criminal justice systems, but plenty of cases never result in a conviction or aren't even pursued. Josh is the obvious example: there are screenshots clearly showing him grooming a minor, Storror cut ties, and even then there were no legal repercussions. The lack of charges does not mean that they did nothing wrong.

The remaining members of Storror are also victims of Callum and Josh, no doubt. But there is a clear distinction between them and the other victims. They were equals with Callum and Josh, not subject to an unbalanced relationship, and they're also accused of moral failings. The cost of disbelief is silencing current and future victims, whereas Storror already has a large platform to speak and a devoted fanbase to passionately defend them.

This next paragraph is far more speculative than the rest, so treat it accordingly — but I feel it needs to be said. Parkour has always had a rebellious streak, and Storror, as one of the culture's biggest influences, embodied it: the trespassing, Joshua Tree, the general disregard for security and property. The early videos especially had a "bro" culture, with crude jokes you'd fairly call homophobic, misogynistic, and fatphobic. I think this led to an attitude where the core group of pro athletes was prioritized over everything else. Callum at around 24 or 25 was dating a girl of 15 or 16. That isn't normal, and in a lot of places it wasn't normal in 2016 either, and it's far more concerning because he had access to children through Storror and actively coached them, which gave him authority and power. But it was difficult for his victim to speak up because she wasn't in the in-group, and that same bro culture made it easy for Storror to dismiss her and make excuses for him. There's more to say about how unfriendly parkour is toward women, kids, and minorities, and this isn't unique to Storror, but Storror is the clearest example of that culture letting abuse slide.

So where does that leave the allegations? I'm personally choosing to lean towards believing the victims because the cost of wrongly disbelieving a real victim is far worse than the cost of wrongly suspecting a group that hasn't defended itself yet.

Besides, what is the impact of these allegations if they are true? Storror isn't in trouble for criminal activity, they're being questioned over poor judgment. I'm not trying to drag the remaining members through the mud or start a witch hunt — I don't think they acted with malicious intent or that they're bad people. But they could have handled this far better, and how they handle it from here will shape how the community heals and protects potential victims. They don't owe us anything, but they owe it to future victims to reflect on what they got wrong, name their mistakes, and acknowledge it publicly, so other communities can spot the warning signs and act instead of doing nothing or defending the abuser. I get that legal constraints slow this down, but I think Storror has a duty to address the allegations, sooner rather than later.

The number one priority is making sure any existing victims get the support and closure they deserve. After that, it's Callum and Josh facing appropriate justice, and preventing future victims. This post is about that last part. You'll never completely prevent abuse, and often there are no red flags to catch. But there are things you can do now. In my own parkour community we push back on the misogynistic and homophobic jokes and call out anything that doesn't belong. Our leaders have spoken privately with athletes who made others uncomfortable and banned the ones who didn't change. We try to cultivate an inclusive environment where everyone has a voice, not just the famous or most skilled. We're not perfect, but we talk about it regularly and put real effort in.

TL;DR

1. Callum and Josh have been confirmed to have committed sexual abuse.
2. There are allegations that the other members were made aware long ago and shut the victims down instead.
3. This sub has mostly responded with doubt and pushback, either:
   1. Condemning the claims as false (minority)
   2. Victim blaming
   3. Nitpicking the statements and interrogating the victims over them
4. We should be showing support to the victims and listening to them with open minds. Otherwise, we are developing a culture of disbelieving victims, which discourages them from coming forward and makes communities harder to protect. None of this is incompatible with supporting Storror too.
5. Storror should address the allegations and, if they are true, reflect on their mistakes and acknowledge them publicly.
6. We make our communities better by fostering an inclusive culture, calling out red flags, and pushing leaders to act.