u/Asleep_Onion

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Rats: What finally worked for me.

Been seeing lots of posts about rat infestations, and I can sympathize because we had a pretty out of hand rat situation here too. So I figured I'd share my very expensive trial and error lessons I learned - what worked and what didn't.

Sealing house entry points: this is a MUST. You will never get rid of them all from your house/walls/garage/attic/basement until you seal off every last way they can get in.

Hot pepper flakes mixed in with chicken feed: chickens enjoyed it but rats didn't seem to care, they just ate around the red flakes.

Grandpa's chicken feeders: does a great job of keeping the rats out of the food, unfortunately it also keeps the chickens out. My chickens hated it, and I followed all the instructions for getting them used to it, but they can't stand being near it, they'd literally rather starve. I still use it but I have to leave it in the locked-open position during the day time or my chickens won't eat. But at least I can close it at night and the rats stay out.

Poison: did absolutely nothing. Rats never touched it.

Ultrasonic repellers: seemed to work for a short time but after a while they ignored it.

Bucket traps: not one single rat caught.

Snap traps: these worked pretty well. Both the traditional wood ones and the newer plastic ones, worked about equally well. The problem is you only get one per day per trap, and if the others see rats dying in traps they start to avoid them. I got a few dozen with snap traps but it never seemed to reduce their overall numbers by much.

Ratinator live traps: these were recommended to me here on this sub. I bought 4 of them for a pretty absurd amount of money. After a month I have only caught 3 rats in them.

Pellet gun with a scope and a flashlight: this is way more fun than the above methods, but it's very hard to get any to sit still long enough to shoot them when there's a flashlight pointing at them. I was able to get half a dozen or so, but most times I went outside to hunt them I didn't manage to shoot any.

Pellet gun with a thermal optic: expensive, but a total game changer. You can shoot every single last rat you see. It's basically cheating. You see a glowing red rat, you line up the cross hair, pull the trigger, dead rat. Virtually every single time. You can scan your whole yard and spot every last exposed rat in seconds, without them even realizing you're there. It was so effective that I was almost sad when I ran out of rats to shoot. I still see one here and there that wfinds it's way into my yard, but it's no longer an infestation of hundreds or thousands of them. The nests are abandoned, they're not living here full time anymore.

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u/Asleep_Onion — 1 day ago

Starting some seeds late - should I still start indoors with grow light, or just direct sow at this point?

I started a tons of seedlings this year indoors with grow lights, but after moving them outdoors last month, some did not survive an unexpected late frost (like all of my okra plants) and now I need to start new ones from seed. Now that last frost is long gone, and it's getting pretty warm and sunny, should I still be starting vegetable seeds indoors or is it better to just direct-sow the seeds outdoors at this point? I only ask because I really want to disassemble and store my grow tent, if I can, because I'm tired of it taking up so much space in my house lol

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u/Asleep_Onion — 8 days ago

I love it when a good plan comes together

Had an interesting night last night. Got to watch two of my best plans work out perfectly.

First, in the middle of the night, a rat chewed through my fiber internet line. This is the second time that's happened, and after the fiasco that happened the first time, I was better prepared this time, with a backup starlink plugged into my router, ready to automatically switch over to that in the event of a fiber internet outage. It worked perfectly, we only lost internet for a few seconds while it did the switchover, all while I was asleep. I'll get around to fixing the internet fiber whenever I have time, but because of my backup plan working beautifully, there's no rush. It also allowed one of my Ring cameras to record what happened about an hour later...

This bobcat tried to get into my meat chicken run. I didn't catch the whole event on video, so I'm not exactly sure what happened before the bobcat gave up and left, but it proves that my hard work that went into protecting the chickens paid off. This bobcat had no easy way to get to the meat chickens, and eventually decided to go find something easier. Maybe it even got zapped by the hotwire, I don't know. In any case, I was stoked to wake up this morning and discover that multiple crises were averted while I slept peacefully :) I love seeing a good plan work out.

What all have you guys made plans for that ended up working out as good as (or better than) you expected?

u/Asleep_Onion — 11 days ago

I posted a couple photos and a build description yesterday, but when I realized that one of my security cameras recorded the whole thing, I decided to throw together this little video montage of the build from start to finish.

I normally thoroughly plan everything and make detailed CAD drawings and totally over-engineer everything I do, but in this case I just grabbed some tools and got straight to work with only a vague idea of a plan. Mostly I figured it out as I went.

My favorite part is when I threw the tarp up the first time, and quickly realized that plan was terrible and not going to work, for reasons that are obvious in the video lol. So then I threw together a makeshift roof frame to stretch the tarps over, which worked much better. Enjoy!

u/Asleep_Onion — 18 days ago

Just finished this poultry pen and populated it with my first 10 meat birds. (I've got a totally different pen and coop elsewhere for the eggers).

At 600 square feet, it's way oversized for only 10 cornish cross chickens, but the plan is to get a few turkeys and a larger flock of meat chickens later.

The pen is made of pressure treated posts 2' deep in concrete, H-posts at the corners.

The fencing is buried almost a foot deep, and consists of:

  • 3' tall 1/2" hardware cloth on the lower half
  • 6' tall 2x4 welded wire
  • Cattle panels on the lower 2/3rds.
  • 3 rows of hotwire (only 1.5 rows show in photo, I ran out of wire before I was done lol)

There is also bird netting stretched over the whole thing. The tarps are stretched over some very basic trusses I constructed, with the assumption that someday I might build a proper roof on it.

The gate is just a basic chainlink gate, that I reinforced with a bunch of welded wire and hardware cloth, and at some point maybe cattle panel too (I was starting to worry about the weight, so I didn't put that on yet). The threshold under the gate is buried cinderblocks filled with concrete.

There's no coop, really. I blew all my budget (and then some) on the rest of it. So these birds get a repurposed dog kennel for the time being, which I wrapped with some of that reflective bubble wrap stuff from Home Depot. My hope is that the pen will keep predators out well enough that they don't need a really nice coop, and they're getting butchered in a month anyways. But until then, they seem to be really enjoying their new life out there! It's a bummer that this breed can't survive long because they're actually really sweet and fun, and love people. I've had to resist the urge to get attached to any of them.

u/Asleep_Onion — 19 days ago