u/AssumptionLive2246

Usually I post because I want to get information out, or to try and persuade others. This post I’d be REALLY interested in what this subreddit thinks. I just heard a theory that Iran WANTS to keep prices low for the West. Keeping prices low by using all of our strategic petroleum, keeps demand stable and we run out of oil faster. We run out of SPR sooner this increases there leverage when they later ESCALATE!!

We all know that China is helping Iran. Resupply, main buyer of Iranian crude, provides intelligence. And, no one can fully explain why China stopped importing 5 million barrels a day. So here’s the theory, what if both Iran, and China (who is known for long term thinking, not just for the next election), don’t really give a crap about what the price is today. They know that once the west REALLY feels the pinch, that’s when they have the most leverage. Anyway I threw the idea by my AI buddy, this is what he had to say:

Why would Iran and China want this?

Iran: Keeping prices from immediately exploding may allow the crisis to continue longer while other countries consume their emergency reserves. If China can provide financing or credit against future Iranian oil, Iran doesn’t need to maximize current exports. Later, when Iran can fully export again into a world with depleted inventories, its oil could be worth considerably more. Less money today could mean much greater wealth over a longer period.

China: China gets discounted or preferential access to future Iranian oil, increases Iranian financial dependence on Beijing, and uses its enormous inventories to decide when it enters or withdraws from the global market. That could make China an increasingly powerful swing consumer—able to influence prices simply by changing how much oil it buys or stores.

The strongest version of the theory is therefore:

Iran trades short-term oil revenue for greater long-term pricing power and wealth. China provides the financial bridge, gains leverage over Iran and preferential future energy access, while becoming the world’s dominant swing buyer. In a future world with depleted reserves, that could give China extraordinary influence over the marginal price of oil.

We do not yet have evidence that Beijing and Tehran deliberately designed this entire strategy together. But we now have evidence that the inventories, incentives, financial mechanisms, trade relationship, and physical-market conditions required for it already exist.

Guys I think Iran AND China WANT this exact thing to happen. Trump is playing right into thier hands.

I saw this conversation and all i could think of is the current aristocracy can’t have the idle peasants have time for crazy ideas like fair wages, equal health care, and more time to enjoy themselves with leisure. If you ever wonder why things never get better, understand this is how the ruling class thinks!

Obvious_Ad3810 • 2h I don't know who said it, but the other day I read:

If you want the rich to work harder pay them more, if you want the poor to work harder, pay them less.

That's been sitting with me for over a week.

flodur1966 • 2h This was the trick in early industrialization when at first the employers paid fair wages and people stopped coming to work when they had enough. Then they reduced wages until they needed to work all hours to earn a living. Later socialism and unions turned the tide little by little but get rid of socialism and unions and we will get back to the good old days of working from dusk till dawn.

Alternative-Key-5647 • 1h I thought you were wrong but holy shit I cannot believe how right you were:

The Pre-Industrial Baseline: Target-Income Labor

Before the widespread availability of consumer goods, agrarian and early industrial workers operated on a "target-income" heuristic. They worked to meet a customary standard of subsistence, not to maximize absolute wealth. In microeconomic terms, their labor supply curve bent backward at very low income levels: as wages rose, the income effect (the preference for leisure once basic needs were met) dominated the substitution effect (the incentive to work more because leisure costs more foregone income. If an employer increased the daily wage, the worker would simply work fewer days. This manifested in widespread cultural practices like "Saint Monday," where workers paid on Saturday would routinely skip work on Monday because their weekly target was already met.

The Capitalist Bottleneck:

Early factory production required continuous, synchronized labor to amortize high fixed-capital investments in machinery. The irregularity of the target-income workforce was a critical operational bottleneck. Initially, some early industrialists offered wage premiums to lure agrarian workers into harsh factory conditions. They quickly discovered that higher wages exacerbated absenteeism, as workers hit their subsistence targets faster and exited the factory earlier.

To force continuous labor, mercantilist thinkers and early capitalists systematically advocated for wage suppression. This doctrine, known as the "Utility of Poverty," held that the lower classes would only work if compelled by immediate existential necessity.

Bernard de Mandeville (1714): Argued that to maintain a productive labor force, the working class should be denied public education and put to work at an early age.

Arthur Young (1771): Summarized the prevailing capitalist consensus: "Everyone but an idiot knows that the lower classes must be kept poor, or they will never be industrious."

Edgar Furniss: Documenting this era, noted the mercantilist view that "suffering is therapeutic" and that high wages were believed to cause moral decay rather than productivity.

Capitalists deliberately depressed wages to the margin of subsistence. Simultaneously, state actions like the English Enclosure Acts eliminated alternative means of self-provisioning, preventing workers from avoiding the wage labor market. By stripping away independent subsistence and reducing the wage rate, employers forced workers to increase their total hours to survive, successfully engineering the continuous labor supply required for industrialization.

TLDR: They purposefully keep us at subsistence level to keep us motivated. Ever wonder why we don’t get paid for production, we get paid for time worked? Ever wonder why they don’t/haven’t indexed wages to inflation, ever wonder why things keep getting worse even though we are at the height of technological power and knowledge. Why now? Chart above says the most Americans ever are not working. The Epstein class need to crash the economy so thier serfs get back to work!

Fuck every single Oligarch!!!!

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Highest HEDIS (Quality)

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I’ve always been here for the SAAS being valued at $0 (rightfully so, I know I’ve been disappointed at the lack of revenue, so that’s just gravy).

What else did I miss clovetards??

Happy 4th of July.

WGAF!!

I mean, it looks like there are 1000’s if not 10,000’s of of Russians waiting in long long lines. The SOH is nowhere near open, and America is EXPORTING more of our oil than ever in history. Shortages everywhere, and …. Oil down 3% on news … whatever the fuck the news is …. The cognitive dissonance is REAL!!