u/AutumnaticFly

Is learning a language that shares alphabet with your native NECESSARILY easier?

Is that fact that you simply don't need to learn a new alphabet to make the whole thing easier? or sometimes depending on the language alphabet becomes trivial compared to actually hard to grasp rules and concepts when the language itself is different enough?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 21 hours ago

Which was the concept that you had to save for the last when you were learning your target language? any why?

We all have to start somewhere, and people talk about their beginning a lot, but i seldom saw people talk about the end of their language journey

So what was the thing that you learnt the last? was it the hard and confusing part that intimidated you at first so you kept it as a final boss? or did you start with the hard concepts to get through them whilst you still had motivation and energy?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 1 day ago

Have you ever had to defend or explain your language in front of a learner? how did it go?

I don't necessarily mean in a negative way, after all if someone is learning your native language, they must like it or have a reason, although people can still hate even if it's their choice
But regardless of whether it was an argument or a conversation, have you ever had to do it? and did you manage to respond to their criticism or did they get you?

I'll cast the first stone myself
In Persian's modern alphabet, we don't write the vowels sounds, since they are not words, but different signs that go above or below the words and alphabet, we just don't write them down, we learn them for a few years at school and then just forget about them, we pronounce them but it's as if we have memorized EVERY SINGLE WORD

And for native this never feels like a weird or hard thing, but i've talked to so many people who hated the crap out of my language because of this and i can not blame them, if you look at this from the outside, the language simply feels incomplete
So my defenses fall apart quickly in this case but how do you guys fare in your languages?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 1 day ago

What are some of the textbooks that helped you more than you thought in your target language?

Share them here and maybe they help someone else too!!!

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u/AutumnaticFly — 2 days ago

Have you ever thought a language sounded bad or weird until you learnt it?

More often than not, people judge something based on first impression and then stick to that judgement, language is no exception either!

Have you ever had this experience? that for whatever reason, maybe the first person you heard the language from, had a weird voice or you associated the language with a something negative
Either way you didn't like the language at first but for some reason you gave it a shot and you fell in love with it?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 2 days ago

Why do learners receive a lot more ridicule than natives? it doesn't make sense to me!

I am not saying that this is the case all the time, but in my personal experience in school, college and different English book clubs that i joined, i realized that people make fun of mistakes in English a lot more than mistakes in our own native language!

Which absolutely makes no sense to me because we all have learnt English as a second language while our native language is second nature (pun intended). so if we have to make fun of something, i think mistakes in native language are a better option than a second language right?

But i can remember so many examples in my lifetime where someone made one simple mistake in English and suddenly it became a meme, inside joke and people never let it go, but mistakes in native just flies under the radar and no one even mentions them!

So am i in the minority here and i just hang out with weird dicks or is this a more global thing and people in different cultures notice it too?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 3 days ago

Have you ever HAD to learn a language that you HATED?

For example for a job or in school, and I'm not talking about just skimming through learning enough to survive! no!!
I mean having to become near fluent in a language that you hated (for any reason) with every cell in your body?

If so, why? and how did you motivate yourself to keep going when it got specially hard!

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u/AutumnaticFly — 3 days ago

Is there anything that's rude in your native language but polite in your target language? (or any other language that you know of)

I'm talking about differences in culture that you figure out only after diving deep into them in order to understand their language even better!
Then suddenly you realize something that's normal in Germany is considered very rude in Iran for example.
So have you seen something like this in your language journey?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 3 days ago

Do you think people make better tutors in their own native language?

Personally, when i see (mostly online) tutors that teach their own native language online, subconsciously at least, i gain more confidence in their ability to teach me, but is it just a bias and it's only about the ability of that teacher? and you think no matter what their native language is, as long as they know your target language good enough they can get the job done? OR because of the lifetime exposure teachers have a clear advantage in teaching their own native language to others? and does this factor in your choice if you were to pick a (online) tutor?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 4 days ago

What's going on with people who can perfectly understand a language, but can not speak it!

Even with different accents or even when natives speak quickly, some people seem to understand them perfectly, but they can't speak that language at all
Is this because of confidence? for example they can't speak perfectly so they don't want to look bad, or is it actually something weird going on in their brain where listening and speaking which you could argue are two sides of the same coin are...for the lack of better word, separated?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 4 days ago

Let's have some fun: Nominate your native language to our alien overlords to be chosen as Earth's official language!!!

You are in front of a the intergalactic council and you've been chosen by everyone who speaks your native language to explain how and why YOUR language should be chosen as official language of the Earth! GO

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u/AutumnaticFly — 5 days ago

If you sucked at writing at first, how did you manage to improve it eventually? (if at all)

Not just in your target language even, some people (like myself) we just SUCK at writing, the spelling, the arbitrary different words that made the same sound and you are supposed to pick the correct one, the whole nine yard

I was never good at spelling in my native language, but it didn't stop there, in English i too am crippled without auto correct and internet, i know the words, i can pronounce them but typing them? nah

and it's been 10 12 years since i've been able to speak fluently and i type every single day too, but still stuck behind this gargantuan obstacle

So if you were like me, how did you manage to beat this final boss?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 5 days ago

Fun question: Do you think at some point someone will be able to speak ALL of the world's living languages?

I know this is a very very outrageous questions, but for the fun of it let's just think about it!
right now the record for the most spoken languages by one person is 42! a far cry from the over 7000 languages

But on the other hand, humans today can do things that humans from a hundred years ago couldn't even dream of let alone thousands of years ago so maybe our brains are evolving, and there is one thing about our specie is that, everything is impossible until it's not
So what do you think? do you think at some point someone with a big enough brain can do this? or maybe if we keep living longer and longer, eventually some one get's enough time to learn everything?
What's your take!

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u/AutumnaticFly — 6 days ago

What language would you encourage your children to learn?

Obviously since we all are multilinguals here, we understand the value of knowing more languages.

I myself encouraged my sister (divorced parents so i'm like her parent too) to learn English from a young age and now she's far ahead of what i was at her age, but maybe not everyone wants to learn our target language so the question is, if NOT your target language, what language would you encourage your children to learn, and why?

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u/AutumnaticFly — 6 days ago

Do you think confidence trumps vocabulary after a certain level?

I’ve seen people with decent vocabulary struggle to communicate because they overthink and fear the outcome of every sentence, while others speak freely even tho they're prone to facing ridicule due to "butchering" the language. A lot of people seem capable of understanding far more than they're letting on.
Sometimes it feels like confidence is the real barrier, not competence...or knowledge

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u/AutumnaticFly — 6 days ago

Have you ever been complimented by a native about your target language?

I mean in a way that impressed them so much that they give you such a genuine compliment that turned into a core memory for you!

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u/AutumnaticFly — 7 days ago