Image 1 — New interview with the writers. “We want the ending to feel like it was set up in the first frame of the first episode” 😱
Image 2 — New interview with the writers. “We want the ending to feel like it was set up in the first frame of the first episode” 😱

New interview with the writers. “We want the ending to feel like it was set up in the first frame of the first episode” 😱

I refuse to go back to s1e1. What’s the first frame.

Is it Boyd with his bell? Are we gonna end with Boyd in a hospital losing his mind ringing a bell walking down the hallway and Kenny’s dad and Henry there too?

u/Bambi_Bucks — 6 days ago

Did Miranda use a map? Get carried by a thousand crows like the balloons carry the house in UP?

I feel like I must be missing an obvious explanation the show gave at some point but… Henry tells Tabitha Miranda painted the town and her various spooky visions and talked about her purpose to save the children for months in their basement. Then one day he got home and she was gone with the kids packed up and she had left to find the place.

How did Miranda know where to go?

I thought you could only get there by a tree falling very randomly in the road? Every single other arrival we’ve heard of involved a complete surprise tree in road intercepting travel from point a to point b for people unaware the from town exists.

Every other arrival involved cars turning around at the tree to go back in direction they came from.

But apparently Miranda knew where to go? Someone please explain the answer who follows this shows logic better than I can.

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u/Bambi_Bucks — 23 days ago

Camden and a few probably meaningless thoughts from rewatch

  1. We see tabitha standing out front talking to Henry then going inside, then we cut to other scenes. When we next see tabitha she’s passed out on couch waking up very disoriented not really knowing how she fell asleep. Henry next to her asleep with a gun pointed at her. Idk this struck me as slightly weird on rewatch.

  2. Henry mentions the only person he told about Miranda’s visions and drawings was one singular detective who conveniently has been dead for 20 years or something. Also struck me as weird on rewatch that only one human on planet earth was told such relevant details to a missing mother and two children case? Maybe this is normal for old cases, but stood out as a kinda weird and specific/ maybe sketchy detail on my rewatch.

  3. Did Victor’s childhood wallpaper have peaches on it? Also I’m sure this has been discussed lots but super weird how the ad on the computer screen and missing Matthews family article was rendez move. I don’t have the energy to theorize about rendez move since I’m too in the rabbit hole of giant spiders, time travel, reincarnation, and records with drawings on them (…) but perhaps others have?!

  4. This is not relevant but Tabitha’s call with her mother made me irrationally angry on rewatch.

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u/Bambi_Bucks — 23 days ago

Cicadas mystery. What was the conclusion or takeaway?

Rewatched season 2 and in the last 3 episodes much of the focus is on the cicadas mystery that started after Boyd’s whole worms to smiley situation.

  1. Kenny sees cicadas in nightmare in pot boiling at his house. One stings him in dream. The sting is there in real life.

  2. Kenny and Boyd see the cicadas in smiley corpse. Kenny tells Boyd, Kristi and Mariel about his sting.

  3. Reggie tells Boyd and Kenny his wife took a nap during the day. She talked in sleep repeating the nursery rhyme. Then something “cracked inside her”. She dead. Happened in Sara’s house.

4a) Randall gets attacked by cicadas near rv in woods that night

4b) Mariel sees the cicadas (Kristi can’t see them) in her room in Colony House where she’s tied to the bed that night

4c) Julie gets attacked by the cicadas in the Liu’s house that night.

5a) Elgin conveniently remembers his dream. A boy dressed in all white repeated over and over “here they come, they come for three, unless you stop the melody”

5b) Then Bakta chimes in. Her grandma used to sing her the nursery rhyme “they touch. They break. They steal. No one here is free. Here they come. They come for three. Unless you stop the melody.”

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That’s what I’ve got in terms of the sequence of events. Their eyes all glaze over when they’re stuck in Martin’s chamber, kinda like the jade rock guy in root cellar when he woke up during Jade’s first vision?

Did anyone ever figure out why those three (Julie, Marielle and Randall) were targeted? Or why Elgin and Bakta of all people knew the nursery rhyme origins / Elgin dreamed the BIW repeating it? Or wtf happened with that guy Reggie’s wife “breaking” during a nap?

Is there generally some issue when humans in the town fall asleep during the day? I always felt like the crow that came through the window later on was partially to wake Elgin up from his tillie enforced nap.

After Boyd destroyed the music box are we just to assume that whole cicada thing is done and they “destroyed” it? I’m trying to see if in hindsight that mystery situation ties to the bigger mythology and makes sense given what we’ve learned since.

Also lol that Ellis and Fatima casually got all dressed up and had a wedding while three people in town were suspended in an old man’s worm infested chambers?

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u/Bambi_Bucks — 1 month ago

Mentions of drugs, alcohol and addiction across town residents

There are a ton.

-Jim said since Julie was born he stopped drinking as he didn’t want to be like his father (presumably alcoholic)

-Khatri buried a bottle of liquor when he arrived

-Henry = alcoholic, mentions that he and Miranda did their last acid trip before their kids were born, so clearly they also did other drugs.

-Donna = drinks nonstop. Makes effort to mention they needed more beer on hunting trip and couldn’t wait until morning. Chugging glass after glass of vodka the entire series.

-Jade = drinks or smokes nonstop. Has tried every drug under the sun he says. Drinking or smoking all series. Ran out of weed, found magic mushrooms.

-Julie sneaking around turning to weed bc it’s only thing that quiets her bad voices and fear / screams in her head

-Mariel = addict in recovery. Constant tension over her being in clinic and morphine access etc

-Frank= turned to drinking excessively to cope. Ended up spending his time passing out black out in the bar in town.

-In s1 we see Ellis turning to excessive drinking the night of Fatima’s 1 year anniversary in the town. We also see Ellis leave a handle of vodka for Kenny the night of the RV arrival. Kenny drinks and then opens up to Khatri. Found it kinda weird Khatri was encouraging the drinking.

Am I missing any? I know this sub loves Jade and I agree he’s an interesting character, but I feel like people gloss over the fact he’s pretty obviously an addict? The show goes out of its way to show him chugging out of his flask every single scene he is in. I’m not at all saying that makes him a bad person, just a complex one who - if in the depths of active addiction - is the opposite of reliable.

I read a lot of theories celebrating the findings and answers from Jade’s recent mushroom trip. I can’t see these show creators / writers including this many ongoing references to the bad coping mechanism only to say that it really was more drugs that were necessary for this case to be cracked (ie Jade hallucinating more, or Miranda hallucinating more etc).

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u/Bambi_Bucks — 1 month ago

How to coexist with the creatures?

First row: Tabitha and Jim were fighting about Jim wanting to allow Ethan to speak to Sara. Jim says their doctors said after Thomas that it’s good to let Ethan lead and come to them with questions. Ethan explains a rule for quests to his mom.

Second row: Ethan confronts Sara face to face. Calls her a monster (shares another quest rule that “only monsters live in the forest”) then tells her he isn’t scared of her.

Third row: Randall mocks the monsters for being what they are, says he isn’t scared of them. They completely disengage.

So… technically if every person in the town took the damn shades down off the windows and opened the door and walked outside and said “you’re a monster, I’m not scared of you”, would their game end (I know this is just one level of the whole mystery and evil, but would this problem at least be solved?)

Apologies for how simple this theory is, it’s following the very literal logic of a young kid on a mission.

u/Bambi_Bucks — 1 month ago

So… Is it good when someone 7ft tall can pass like this? Boumtje for 2 years is a Scheyer recruiting masterclass

u/Bambi_Bucks — 1 month ago