BFDI S7 my way
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BFDI S7 my way

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So a lot of people have been making their own season 7 casts or whatever, so I decided to finally throw my own hat into the ring and share how I would envision Season 7. Now, I already made a post about the 25-contestant cast and the teams, so I won't reintroduce those here. This is more about the hosts, the arcs, the overall vibe of the season, all that, so let’s begin.

As of right now, I don’t have a name for this season. I could obviously reuse the Sevenfold name, but if you have any other ideas, definitely drop them in the comments below!

Anyways. So this season is set in the exact same universe as the How I Would Write a One Redemption Arc Post-Trilogy (HIWWAORAPT) universe because why not? So everything that played out in that series still happens. Four and Three got stripped of their powers, banished from Goiky and are now nomads, and Four is officially blacklisted from ever involved in hosting ever again.

With Four and Three out of the picture and officially out of Goiky, BFDI enters a brand new era. Gone are the days of pain, suffering, and trauma caused by Four’s tyranny. We move to an era of peace, healing, fairness, and hope.

Now, with Four out of the picture, we need to talk about who will be having hosting duties this time around.

Since we’re keeping things balanced and chill, hosting is actually going to be shared between a trio: One, Two, and Black Hole:

Two: They are back for a second go at hosting, and this time they’re doing it right. After everything that went down in TPOT (the depression spiral, the power loss, the whole mess with One), Two has properly healed and is in a much better headspace. They’re still the chill, slightly chaotic British host we know and love, but it stays like that. They’re the heart of the hosting trio: the one who keeps the vibe light, cracks the dry jokes, and makes sure nobody’s taking the competition too seriously.

One: The former villain and Two’s now-reformed bestie. After wrecking havoc, have a short stint as co-host of TPOT alongside Two, and going on a redemption arc, One is also having a second go at hosting, this time fully on the right side of things. She’s still a bit sharp-edged and dramatic when the mood strikes, but she is now way more laid-back than ever. All the contestants have forgiven and now respect her and she is now living the best years of her life… yes, even better than when she had Three as her only friend. She’s genuinely happy now and you can see it in the way she carries herself. Hosting with Two feels natural, like the two of them finally getting the do-over they both deserved after everything.

Black Hole: TPOT contestant, One’s therapist-like friend, and the reason why One got redeemed, Black Hole got offered the hosting gig by One herself as a way to repay everything he did for her. He’s the calm, grounded one of the trio. As a death preventer, he’s the perfect counterbalance to One and Two’s more energetic (and occasionally chaotic) energy. Black Hole keeps things fair, makes sure no one actually dies if it can be helped, and quietly talks people down when the drama starts bubbling up a bit too high. He’s not the loudest host, but he’s the one everyone ends up trusting the most when things get a little too real. 

But wait, THERE’S MORE!

For the first time in the BFDI franchise, there are special guests who’d occasionally drop by and help out with hosting or challenges for a few episodes. These people are some of One and/or Two’s closest friends and were apart of their coalition during the whole One’s Atonement Trilogy fallout in the HIWWAORAPT timeline. They don’t stick around full-time (thisisn’t a permanent six-host circus), but they pop in for a handful of episodes each, help run challenges, assistwith Cake at Stake, or just hang out and keep the energy up. Here they are:

Seven: one of One’s closest friends from way back and a key member of the coalition that helped her through the whole trilogy mess. He’s the energetic, slightly chaotic hype-man of the guest crew. When Seven drops in, the challenges suddenly get a lot more creative (and occasionally ridiculous). He and One bounce off each other like old mates who’ve finally got the band back together, and his presence always lifts the whole episode’s energy.

Fifteen: When one baddie wasn’t enough, Fifteen steps in as the quiet powerhouse of the guest crew. She’s the one who spent years living off-grid in her cabin, keeping Zero safe and minding her own business while the rest of the Algebralien drama unfolded. She and One form an iconic duo of two baddies and whenever they are together, you know that the badassery level is through the roof. Watching her and One trade dry one-liners while casually running a challenge is pure gold.

Zero: Fifteen’s long time buddy, every time he appears, it’s most likely with her. He’s the quiet, slightly awkward one of the guest crew who still carries that old “Zero Leader” energy fromthe subscriber specials, but mellowed out after everything that went down in the trilogy. When Zero drops in heusually sticks close to Fifteen, helps with the more technical side of challenges.

X: Two’s longtime friend and former BFB co-host. He is better than ever after cutting ties with Four. No more being abused, emotionally neglected, or having to be blindly loyal to Four for years. Now that he’s free from that toxic dynamic, X is lighter, funnier, and actually enjoysbeing around people again. When he swings by as a guest host he brings that classic BFB co-host energy butwithout any of the old baggage. He’s great at running the more creative or food-based challenges, and thechemistry between him and Two is off the charts. Since X got inspired by One to cut ties with Four and have a better future, he now respects her as a host, as a friend, and as a person who actually proved change is possible. The two of them have this easy, supportive dynamic now that just works.

Twenty-One (my OC): And finally, we got Fifteen’s best friend. Twenty-One a chill-but-snarky 21 who rock up with the shades on half the time and the biggest soft spot for Fifteen you’ve ever seen. He’s the practical one of the guest crew: the guy who actually reads the challenge rules twice, keeps the more chaotic guests from going completely off the rails, and still manages to drop the driest one-liners that leave everyone (especially One) wheezing.

So yeah, that’s the full hosting setup: the permanent trio of One, Two and Black Hole running the show day-to-day, with Seven, Fifteen, Zero, X and Twenty-One swinging by every now and then as special guest co-hosts to keep things fresh and give the main three a bit of a breather. It’s never overwhelming, just the right amount of extra personality when the season needs a little boost.

Let’s talk about eliminations because that’s pretty interesting in this.

So everything is the same. It’s VTS (vote to save), Cake at Stake is still the same, and all that, but let’s talk about what’s happens if someone gets eliminated.

In all of the BFDI seasons so far, eliminated contestants get sent to a place and stay there until a rejoin or the finale, usually in an isolated area that is like a prison. However, One and Two are all about fairness, healing, and actually treating people like people.

So with that being, the place that the eliminated contestants will get sent to is… NOWHERE! And what do I mean by that? Exactly what it sounds like. Eliminated contestants get to stay, hang out with everyone, and be free. However, there is a strict rule when it comes to being eliminated: You cannot interfere with the ongoing challenges or try to sabotage the remaining contestants in any way. Other than that? They are free to do whatever they want, hang out in the Hotel or around Goiky, chat with the remaining contestants, even help decorating cakes for Cake at Stake. One and Two had made it clear that they are not repeating the mistakes of past seasons and that includes imprisoning people against their will. Elimination is strictly a loss in the game, not a loss of your freedom.

Now, let’s talk about the vibe and tone for a second. After a while, fans got used to the dark and intense storylines from TPOT, but the whole point of this season is that we are actively moving away from tragedies and trauma. Instead, this season is going to be way more laid-back, but with just enough of a darker edge to fit the modern vibe of the series. This season is going to be like BFDIA, and before you say anything, no, it’s not like the universally loved post-hiatus BFDIA. We’re going back to 2012/2013 for this one because this season reminisce of pre-hiatus BFDIA but with a modern, slightly darker spin.

Pre-hiatus BFDIA was fun, simple, and raw, but it also wasn’t afraid to let things get a little weird, unpredictable, and just slightly unhinged. That’s the exact energy we’re bringing back here, just refined with modern storytelling standards and a darker undercurrent that a lot of fans associate with modern BFDI. It’s dark in a bit of a TPOT way with the stakes high, the comedy morbid, and the character development hitting hard, but it’s laid-back in the sense that no world-ending events occur, no characters have trauma that prevents them from functioning (ahem… Pencil… ahem… One), and the high stakes are reserved for the actual game itself, rather than life-or-death survival. We’re basically getting early TPOT vibes here mixed with pre-hiatus BFDIA vibes, and honestly? It’s giving classic BFDI nostalgia vibes. 

Now let’s get creative and come up with some of the main character arcs that would carry this season! Some of the arcs were partially introduced through the post about the teams I came up with previously, but let's expand on them here:  

1: Fanny’s “back to back win” mission (only if she wins TPOT): An arc that could be entertaining to watch if Fanny does end up winning TPOT is her mission to become the first ever two time AND back-to-back winner in BFDI history. Driven by her intense, unapologetic spite and determination, Fanny isn't joining season 7 just to participate; she is here to crush the competition twice in a row. However, this creates a target on her back right from the start. Since Fanny is coming into season 7 as the previous winner, every other contestant (except those on her team, naturally) views her as a massive thread. This forces Fanny into a position where she risks getting sabotaged, ganged up on, and constantly targeted during challenges. Rather than backing down or breaking under the pressure, Fanny doubles down on her signature attitude. However, this arc would only happen IF Fanny actually wins TPOT. If she loses or places lower in the TPOT finale, she would just be her normal self. And speaking of Fanny…

2: F•R•C alliance arc: With Fanny, Remote, and Cake on the same team (H.A.T.E), this would be a perfect opportunity for my favourite trio to finally shine! If you’ve seen my other posts or edits, you already know it’s me who came up with this fan trio, it’s me who coined the trio name, and it’s me who is pushing the F•R•C agenda as much as I can! This dynamic allows Fanny and Remote to show off their incredible potential as co-leaders, but they also act as supportive friends who help Cake find his own confidence. It's a solid arc for the three of them that balances wholesome friendship with their shared competitive drive, giving us a trio that can completely dominate the competition.

3: Clapboard Mentorship Arc: Another arc that taking place on the team H.A.T.E involves one of the two team rookies, Clapboard. Fanny and Remote (mainly Fanny) have seen the potential in Clapboard and decided to take him under their wing as their prodigy. Since Clapboard has spent so much time on the sidelines as a failed debuter, having two experienced, headstrong competitors show him the ropes is exactly what he needs. Fanny’s uncompromising, blunt honesty paired with Remote’s logical, goal-oriented mindset creates a surprisingly balanced coaching style for the rookie. It gives Clapboard a platform to find his footing, step out of his comfort zone, and prove to everyone that he has the potential to be a serious competitor. If deemed successful, Clapboard might just be the next big thing in BFDI.

4: Robot Flower’s Leadership Arc: So Robot Flower is going through a bit of self reflection. After being a horrible person in a majority of TPOT and having that whole 'I just want to be the real Flower' arc, she is ready to turn over a new leaf. In this season, she has fully embraced being her robotic self and is working on being a genuinely good person. To prove she can lead by example, she forms and leads her own squad: "The Not-So Mechanical Minds". After realizing Remote is locked in with Fanny, and TV has joined forces with Golf Ball's crew, Robot Flower decides to recruit the only other mechanical mind left in the game: Roboty. She sees a kindred spirit in him and is determined to help him find his voice, or at least translate his Morse code so the rest of the team actually knows what he's saying. At the same time, her leadership will be put to the test by PDA, the resident intellectual whose narcissistic attitude leads to some hilarious head-butting with Robot Flower.

5: the Winner-Clock Arc 2: Electric Boogaloo: In TPOT, Clock and Winner had an arc where Clock’s overbearing obsession drove a wedge between them, leading to Winner snapping in TPOT 3 and Clock’s eventual elimination in TPOT 7 which led to the two reconciling in TPOT 10. With Loser taking kind of a backseat while also being the team’s leader, this leads to Winner and Clock forming quite the duo together, this time as actual equal friends without any of the toxic celebrity worship. With Clock being completely past his Winner obsession phase and back to his mature, sometimes cynical, and logical self, he can finally support Winner on equal ground. Winner also doesn't have to carry the burden of Clock's smothering expectations anymore, which lets them relax and just enjoy playing the game. Together, they can tackle challenges with a fresh, healthy dynamic, proving how much they've both grown since early TPOT.

6: Golf Ball and 8-Ball’s Co-Leadership Arc… Again: So Golf Ball and 8 Ball have finally buried the hatchet. For the first time since the BFB days, they’re back on one time but this time as co-leaders who actually respect each other. It’s a massive step forward for both of them, proving they can share the spotlight and get things done when they work together.

7: One-Black Hole Arc: in TPOT, we had Two and Gaty, and in season 7, we’re about to have another therapist friend-Algebralien dynamic. Expanding on their interactions in TPOT 24 and One’s redemption arc, we will see more of One and Black Hole. Just like Gaty was always there to listen to Two’s struggles, Black Hole becomes that safe space for One to talk through… basically anything, not just her trauma and solitary confinement. It’s a slow-burn, organic friendship that feels genuine and meaningful.

8: Cake’s Independence Arc: It’s time to give Cake his full independence. For years, Cake has been written mainly as a loyal follower of Loser, struggling to make a name for himself outside of that dynamic. While we do end up seeing a bit of progress from Cake, especially in TPOT 22, that isn’t enough. Cake needs a full arc. It begins with Cake politely but also firmly shutting down Loser when he offered to team up with him. Cake still respects Loser and still considers him a good friend, but he wants to be his own person now and desperately needs a break from being defined by his relationship with him. With the confidence and assertiveness he gained during TPOT 22, he linked up with Fanny and Remote to form F•R•C and is ready to make his name known. He’s actively contributing to challenges and is on his way to becoming the most improved player of the season.

So, that’s my overall vision for how a hypothetical Season 7 would play out. Note that this is not meant to be realistic and is mostly just a fun, highly self-indulgent passion project. We all know JnJ is probably going to take the actual show in a completely different direction, but this is basically how I would tackle season 7 if I were calling the shots in the writers' room. Unlike most season 7 concepts, it doesn’t have a gimmick like an underdog season or all stars season. It’s your standard setup.

Anyway, that pretty much covers my entire vision for how this season would go. It's obviously just a highly self-indulgent, fun concept that ties up the loose ends of my How I Would Write a One Redemption Arc Post-Trilogy fanfic, but I hope it gives a good idea of how I would handle season 7.

What do y'all think of this setup? Would you watch this season, or would you be boycotting jacknjellify if they  do something like this? Who do you think would be the first one eliminated? Who do you think would be in the final 3? And if you have any cool ideas for a season name other than Sevenfold, definitely drop them in the comments below

Anyway, this is Mr. TV, signing out Catch ya later, mates! ✌️

EDIT: For one of the challenges, I can imagine like a 30-45 minute episode heavily inspired by Wild ‘n Out where for one episode only, the contestants are split into two teams (with One (Blue Squad) and Two (Green Squad) as the captains, and Black Hole coming back as a one-off contestant) and they face off in a series of comedy improv and roast battles like Got Damned, Talking Spit, Plead the Fifth, Can I Cancel?, Hood Jeopardy, and of course, the iconic Wildstyle to cap it all off.

u/BigTennis4580 — 10 hours ago
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We might have another Twone parallel

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So, TPOT 24 just gave us another potential parallel between One and Two. For those who don’t know, One and Two have a lot of parallels, especially with their respective backstories. Before we actually begin the post, let’s do a rundown of what those parallels are.

First off, at some point in their lives, they were both outcasts who felt isolated from their own kind. The first example of it being One, who prior to the 2009 incident was essentially rejected and left out by the other Algebraliens and to this day, we don’t even have a reason to why that’s the case. Then we head to TPOT 21 and can you guess whose backstory revealed a similar story of being outcasted. Yep, Two! We found out that after the 2009 incident and after most of the Algebraliens left the Equation Playground, Two struggled to fit in. No matter where they went, they couldn’t find a place where they belonged. They tried a few different facades and planets, pretending they were fine and that nothing could hurt them, but nothing ever really stuck. They even came to Earth to see Four and X, only to realize they were barely remembered, leaving them feeling completely disconnected. But the difference between those two is that Two would eventually find their footing, stealing half of Four’s contestants and creating their own show, finally finding a sense of belonging and appreciation. Meanwhile, One stayed isolated, letting her resentment build up until she decided to take power by force. 

Now you probably be like ‘where are the other parallels? You said ‘ a few of them’, didn’t you?’ Yeah, my bad, I got a bit carried away. Let’s get to the actual point now.

So all of you probably know that Two’s best friend is Gaty, and Gaty is essentially Two’s personal therapist. Ever since TPOT 2 (up until TPOT 15), Gaty and Two were seen having these couch chats where Two could let down their guard and vent. Gaty didn't treat them like an untouchable host; she just listened, asked the right questions, and offered a calm, grounded perspective. She was essentially the one person Two could be completely vulnerable with. When One erased Gaty in TPOT 15, it made sense for Two to go into a depression spiral that lasted a year. Two’s pale skin, elongated limbs, and total unresponsiveness during that arc showed just how much Gaty’s absence affected them. She was the anchor keeping Two grounded, and without her, they completely fell apart.

Now, TPOT 24 dropped and with how jacknjellify was teasing the episode, we were expecting a massive fight/showdown between One and Black Hole, but what we actually got was completely different. To fully grasp why this is a potential parallel (not saying it is one), we have to look at the play-by-play of this scene[

Instead of a chaotic battle of raw power, we got a surprisingly quiet, almost intimate heart-to-heart inside One's realm. Well, at first, it looked like shit was about to go down, with Black Hole trying to escape and One threatening to erase Fanny, but that had a quick change when Black Hole found out what One’s board was all about and then saw the drawing of Three under the text “RECOVER”. He completely shifts the tone of the room. He asks her: “What happened? T-TELL ME! Tell me what happened, okay? What happened? O-over, yeah over here! Come on!

At first, things seemed incredibly tense One got defensive, shouting at him to watch it because he accidentally sucked up her stool She tried to zap him with her eye lasers, but because he's a literal black hole, those attacks did absolutely nothing. However, instead of escalating into a massive battle of cosmic proportions, One told Black Hole that she has more power than Four but she can move him and that’s it. Black Hole pointed out that she has a whole of power and is unsure what to do with it.

One then vent about how she just wants people to know what she went through, that all the numbers can be alone. And that’s when Black Hole was like “Just because Just because something bad happened to you doesn’t mean you can do this to all of us too. You’re not avenging Three that way,” which One retaliated by saying that it’s the only way, which got Black Hole confused.

One’s rewind device then teleports and One told Black Hole that the device wasn’t for Pencil at first and that she tried playing all the different possibilities, but she was returned to the moon, or zapped and hurt and that the only option was to steal the power and hold everyone back. Black Hole then asked if she played out every scenario and One straight-up admitted that she had. Enough times to know that “playing nice” was never going to get her back to Three. He pressed further, asking why she didn’t just go back to the exact moment everything went wrong in the first place. One’s voice got quieter, almost tired, as she explained that she had tried that route too. She rewound, changed variables, tried different approaches… but every single altered timeline still left her dealing with versions of Four and Two who weren’t the ones who had ever let her get close. The ones who actually mattered weren’t reachable that way. So the only path that still made sense in her head was the nuclear option: take the power, freeze everyone in place, and force the conditions she needed to finally recover Three properly. She said that it wasn’t fair, she deserved an apology, and for the Algebraliens to right the wrong, which Black Hole pointed out to be revenge. One doubled down, saying that it’s not fair to erase what happened to her, that the Algebraliens should be sorry for trapping her away and that they will be once she fixes Three. She then floated away and Black Hole was like “Yeesh” before One tried to zap him again.

Later on, we see Marker pops out right near Black Hole, all excited and optimistic as usual, but Black Hole shushed him which perfectly turned into a “SSSSSHALL”’ as he told One that they shall keep talking about stuff. One started to become confused, especially when Black Hole told Marker that he got to get him out of the realm. Black Hole then cleared his throat and clarified that he meant getting One out of the rut she was in. He kept the conversation going in this awkwardly optimistic, almost forced-cheerful way, saying stuff like “C’mon, you can’t be moping around like this!” and trying to guide her toward the door while still keeping Marker shielded behind him. One was clearly thrown off by the sudden shift in energy, calling the whole thing weird, but Black Hole just laughed it off and kept pushing the “let’s get you out of this isolation” angle.

We see One and Black Hole entered the garden as One told him that the power takes time, that she pretty sure he wouldn’t know how to suck up something grand like a galaxy, but maybe with time, he could. She then said that once she has made everyone feel what she felt, she can return to Three and recover her, then everyone can move on. Black Hole then told Marker to come with him and once again, One acted confused, which caused Black Hole to drift the attention to the red  door, complimenting the craftsmanship. One, still a bit off-balance from the sudden cheerful energy, actually softens for a secondand agrees that she did a pretty good job with everything in her realm. She then said that maybe if everything goes right, she can help fix the Hotel once everything’s sorted (which by the way is the biggest hint we ever gotten at a redemption arc for One).

Black Hole then talked about how he wish he could flowers, saying that’s one of the reasons he wants those kinds of powers in the first place. One pointed out the irony right to his face: he’s got so much raw power already, yet he can’t do something as simple and ordinary as smelling a flower. For a second the conversation almost felt… soft as she was like “Black Hole, I—” before Black Hole told Marker to go through the door and that’s when Marker’s cover was blown and boy was One pissed. Marker’s cover was completely blown the second Black Hole told him to go through the red door. Marker starts begging Black Hole to come with him, but the door vanishes right as One realises there’s been a third party in the room the entire time. Black Hole tries to play it cool for half a second, voice cracking a little as he attempts to keep the conversation going, but One’s already spiralling.

She goes full meltdown. Eye lasers start firing in every direction, scorching her own realm while she screams that Black Hole tricked her. That he only pretended to understand her, that he only pretended to care. You can hear the raw betrayal in her voice. Years of isolation, of being shut out, of nobody ever actually listening, and the first person who seemed willing to sit with her pain turns out to have been hiding someone the whole time. Black Hole keeps apologising, keeps trying to de-escalate, but the damage is done. He points out that having immense power doesn’t mean you automatically go nuts with it, that he’s spent his entire existence learning to control what he’s capable of, and that right now One only seems to care about herself. It’s not cruel. It’s just honest. And that honesty is the last straw.

One has had enough. She teleports out of the realm entirely, leaving Black Hole and Marker behind. You hear Black Hole’s panicked “WAIT. NO!” as he realises exactly where she’s going. She reappears in her control room, checks the monitors, and sees the contestants finally uniting against her. She’s fuming. Black Hole tries one last distraction by sucking up more of her stuff, but One just glares at him in probably the most ICONIC WAY POSSIBLE and teleports straight to Earth to confront everyone.

I don’t wanna talk about the rest of the episode, but one thing I wanna talk about is the part where Fanny communicates with Black Hole through the broadcast system. When she realizes Black Hole and Marker are still trapped inside One's pocket dimension, she doesn't tell them to play it safe. Instead, she yells at him to destroy the entire dimension from the inside out to hold One back and ruin her plans.

But what is really fascinating here is Black Hole's immediate hesitation. He tells her, "No, Fanny! I.. can't.." Why? On one hand, you have his obvious Death P.A.C.T. Again morals, destroying an entire dimension goes completely against his core programming of preventing death and avoiding needless destruction. However, as I mentioned in one of the earlier posts, I have a theory that another reason why Black Hole was hesitant to destroy One’s dimension is that he actually genuinely started to connect with her during their brief heart-to-heart. I believe that Black Hole actually do care about One and that after everything, he doesn’t see One as a irredeemable monster, he sees her as a broken soul who was failed by the very failed by the very Algebraliens she wanted to belong with. 

So that’s a MASSIVE rundown of the scene itself. Now this scene alone leaves me wondering: if Gaty is like a therapist friend of Two, could Black Hole be the exact same person for One?

Well, right now, the answer is a resounding no. Black Hole and One aren’t really friends, let alone in a stable therapist-patient dynamic like Two and Gaty, and with everything that went down after Marker’s cover was blown, I’m not too sure if One even trusts him, especially since her severe PTSD led to her believing that Black Hole was just using her to lower her guard. So how will we know if Black Hole and One’s dynamic is similar to Two and Gaty’s? Two words: TPOT 25.

TPOT 25 is quite literally a life or death situation for One because she is fighting against EVERYONE and we don’t know if the writers are going to kill her off, send her back to the moon, or actually try to reform her with a genuine redemption arc. If they go with the last choice, Black Hole could be the main reason for it to happen. Why?

Well, I have a theory that if One were to go down a redemption route, during the battle in TPOT 25, I could see Black Hole talking some sense into One. I even made a whole fan script about it, which I will leave in the comments. If Black Hole is successful in doing such thing and One does begin a redemption arc, this could lead to a new dynamic where Black Hole becomes the Gaty to One’s Two and that interaction in TPOT 24 could be the crucial starting point, because in that episode, Black Hole actually felt like a therapist for One. He lowkey gave me Gaty vibes, and the funny thing is, they are voiced by the same voice actor, Satomi Hinatsu!

But voice actors aside, the thematic writing here is what really makes this theory hold some weight. If you look closely at Black Hole’s history, he is actually remarkably well-suited to help One in a way that almost no other contestant on Earth can.

Before TPOT 24, I actually had Two pinned as the most likely candidate to redeem One. I figured that since Two went through a similar isolation phase before hosting TPOT, they would be the best person to understand her trauma and talk her down. I still think they could be a perfect deuteragonist for a One redemption arc, but as for the person who redeems her and become the person who help One process her trauma, Black Hole is slowly shaping up to be the ideal candidate. Black Hole could be the Gaty-like figure for One who helps her get her life back on track, who helps her heal from her PTSD, and TPOT 24 just became the sole reason why I am genuinely leaning into Black Hole being that person for One.

But hey, that’s just an analysis… A BFDI ANALYSIS! (Yes, I had to do it, MatPat style).

Anyway, that’s my massive brain dump for today! What do you guys think? Do you see the vision of Black Hole becoming One's Gaty-like figure, or do you think I'm just overanalyzing what might be a one-off moment of tension? Let me know in the comments below. Well, we can’t call it a parallel right now, but if TPOT 25 goes a certain route, we might just see it come to fruition.

u/BigTennis4580 — 1 day ago
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Decided to write a TPOT 25 fan script about Black Hole talking some sense into One again (and it working this time which would lead to the beginning of One’s redemption arc)

In the middle of the battle, Black Hole said “Guys, stop. I wanna talk to her for a sec.”

Two said “Black Hole, I don't think she's in a talking mood right now! Besides, we need to stop her!”

Black Hole replied “Two, trust me on this. Let me try.”

Two said “You’re gonna get yourself killed.”

Black Hole replied “I am a literal black hole. People can’t kill me and if they try, they just get spaghettified.” 

Two said “Oh, you do make a good point,” Two mutters, lowering their hands slightly. “Just... be careful, Black Hole.”

Black Hole floats over to One, who is hovering above the battlefield.

Black Hole said “One, look at me. Look at me.” 

One replied “Oh, let me guess. You’re going to have yet another ‘heart-to-heart’ just so you can distract me while the others attack? Or what, help someone else escape? You never actually cared about you, did you? You just wanted me to let my guard down!” 

Black Hole said “That’s not true. I actually do care about you, and if this is about the whole Marker situation, let me clarify that I didn't plan for him to be there. I was just as surprised as you were. I wanted him to stay behind because I didn't want him to get hurt. I wasn't trying to trick you or keep secrets. Everything I said to you before... that was real. You were just thinking I was betraying you because of that PTSD you have from being isolated in the moon and that’s completely understandable.”

One replied “Don’t pretend to understand me! You have a team. You have people who actually fought for and beside you. Me? I was abandoned. Locked away in the moon for years while everyone else got to exist, to have fun, to be normal! Nobody ever came to check on me! So why should I believe you're any different?”

Black Hole sighed and said “Look, One, after we had that whole thing in your little pocket dimension or whatever you call it, I realised something. You didn’t wake up one day and decide to be a villain. You were just hurting. You spent all those years isolated on that moon after you accidentally kill Three, and even the most sane people would go completely nuts after just a week or two in solitary confinement. And you were up there for years. Years of having nothing but your own thoughts, your own regrets, and the crushing weight of what happened to Three. That’s not a life, One. That’s torture, plain and simple.”

Black Hole continued “But here’s the thing, One, you don’t have to keep hurting others just because you were hurt. Causing tragic events, stealing everyone's power, trying to force your way to a better past... none of it will undo what happened. When we talked, I didn’t see an irredeemable monster. I saw a broken soul that got failed by the same very people who should have been there for you and helped you out. Yeah you killed Three in cold blood out of blind rage, yeah you disfigured her while trying to revive her. Those things are horrible, but up until then, you were never a monster. Before the incident, you were just a lonely, outcasted girl who just wanted purpose in life, I know that, that the same little girl is still in there somewhere.”

Four angrily said “Seriously, Black Hole?! Have you lost your damn mind?! She erased people, she caused apocalyptic events, she made shady deals, you're out here trying to make excuses for he-“

Black Hole interrupted “Will you shut the hell up?!”

Four replied “Excuse me?! You do not talk to me like that! I’m just trying to keep us from getting vaporized!”

Black Hole said “You can’t talk! You were literally the same person who put One in solitary confinement and you expected her to come out the same. And let’s not forget about your previous track record as BFB’s host. You’re lucky that I am a death preventer, because if I wasn't, I would have let my gravity pull you in a long time ago, honey!”

Four didn’t have anything to say to that. He opened his mouth to argue, but no words came out. He simply stood there in shock.

Fanny said “Oof! That really shut him up.”

X whispered to Two “Is Black Hole insane? One is a monster!”

Two whispered back “Nah, it’s just called common sense.”

One stared at Black Hole in shock and then asked “You… you actually care about me?”

Black Hole replied “Yeah. Why would I have stayed behind in your realm just to listen to you if I didn’t? You are a person who deserved better, One. You deserved to be heard, not forgotten. I’m here now, and I’m actually listening. We don’t have to do this. And just because I allowed someone to use me as a shield doesn’t mean I don’t care about you. I was just doing my job as a death preventer while trying to understand what you were going through. I wanted to help you, One. I still want to help you. But you have to stop this.”

One said “I… I just don’t know what to do. For all my life, I thought the world hated me just for existing. I thought I had to let the world burn just to feel whole. I mean, I do want to fix what I did to Three and maybe help out in the hotel. But how can I? Look at what I've done to everyone. They'll never forgive me.”

Black Hole replied “Then do something about it. I know it’s a hard road to walk, and it’s not going to happen overnight. But you don't have to do it alone. I can help you. We can help you.”

Four was about to say something but Black Hole said to him “I don’t want to hear a word from you, you understand me?”

Four glared at Black Hole, but actually stayed quiet, grumbling under his breath and crossing his arms.

Black Hole said “That’s what I thought.”

One said in shock “You... you really mean that? Nobody has ever said that to me before. All I've ever heard is how I'm a nuisance, how I'm dangerous, or how I just... shouldn't exist.”

Black Hole replied “That’s what people think of you. But you can change that. You can choose to heal instead of hurt. It starts by letting go of the anger.”

One stares at her feet, which are still crackling with a faint, unstable blue energy as Black Hole continued “You got this. I believe in you, One.”

Black Hole floats away from One and One can be heard muttering “I won’t let you down, Black Hole.”

Four said “Alright! Enough with this nonsense! It’s time to take you down, One!”

One challenged “If you wanna stop me, you gonna have to kill me! Because I am NOT going back to that moon, on my LIFE!”

A massive beam of blue energy surged from Four’s hands, heading straight toward One, but One ducked just in time. The beam sailed over her head, obliterating a nearby hill into fine dust.

Four said “Guys, help me out here!”

And with that, the battle resumed in full force. One began to use her powers to attack everyone, but this time, something was different. Instead of the sharp, blindingly fast beams of light that had easily pinned down the contestants moments ago, her energy blasts were slower, wavering, and noticeably softer.

She fired a volley of energy spheres at a group of contestants. Marker, who was bracing for impact, squeezed his eyes shut, The blue sphere hit him, but instead of vaporizing him, it just shoved him miles away and onto the ground.

Marker said “Ha! You didn’t kill me or injured me, you fraud!”

One glared down at Marker, but the anger in her eyes was clearly fading, replaced by a deep, lingering exhaustion. “I am not a fraud!” she protested, though her voice lacked its usual booming authority.

She summoned a cluster of blue energy spheres and have them rain down from the sky 

Two said “TAKE COVER!”

The blue spheres rained down from the sky, bouncing off the ground and exploding. But instead of the earth-shattering blasts everyone expected, the explosions were small and only dealt minor damage.

Fanny said “OWW! Wait, is it me or is this pathetic? Black Hole, what did you do to her?”

Black Hole replied “I didn’t do anything to her, Fanny. I think she is holding back.”

Fanny yelled “Holding back?! Why would she do that?! She was literally trying to vaporize us a second ago! I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DON'T GIVE IT THEIR ALL… even the bad guys.”

Two looked closely at One, observing how her glowing blue aura was flickering and shrinking. Two said “Wait, Black Hole might actually be right. Look at her stance. She’s barely even aiming at us.”

Four replied “She is just doing that to trick us! Don’t fall for it! She wants us to lower our guard!”

One said “Oh yeah? Watch this.”

Since it is directly at Four, One didn’t hold back. She channeled a concentrated beam of brilliant blue energy, firing it directly at Four's chest.

The blast was massive, sending Four flying backward through several trees before he crashed into a boulder, leaving a trail of smoke behind him.

Four groaned in pain and said “See? What did I tell you?!”

Black Hole quietly said to One “I don’t know you’re trying to trick us or are you actually holding me?”

One quietly replied “Trust me, I am holding back, but not for that tyrant who ruined my life.”

Black Hole quietly said “That’s good to hear. You know what they say, fake it till you make it. Wait until they actually defeat you before you show them you’ve actually changed.”

One quietly replied “That’s what I am doing. I got you, Black Hole.”

[End of script/transition into next scene]

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u/BigTennis4580 — 2 days ago
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One be like in TPOT 25 (based off the latest teaser)

Watch out y‘all, One is pulling a Fifteen and has a flamethrower… with no safety on 😏

u/BigTennis4580 — 2 days ago
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One and Black Hole’s whole interaction was the best part of TPOT 24

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So, TPOT 24 just came out and there is one specific interaction that is right now living rent free in my mind. I’m talking, of course, about the scenes between One and Black Hole inside One’s realm. I know I already made a post about TPOT 24, but I felt like this specific dynamic deserved its own dedicated write-up.

So before the episode drop, me and a lot of people were convinced that One and Black Hole are going to have some kind of clash/fight, but instead, we got this wholesome and lowkey heartwarming interaction. Like, I did not expect Black Hole out of all people to be one of the only few people to be understanding of One’s past and try to understand her perspective rather than just seeing her as a villain. 

Well, at first, it seems like One and Black Hole are going to be combative as it starts with One confronting him for trying to leave her dimension and all that, trying to zap him and stop him from escaping, but then it quickly shifts into this surprisingly open conversation. Black Hole doesn’t just fight back.

Instead, he actually asks her what happened. Like, straight up “T-TELL ME! Tell me what happened, okay? What happened?” and he keeps pressing in this calm, insistent way that feels so in-character for him. And One… she opens up. She starts explaining that this whole power-stealing, universe-wrecking plan wasn’t even originally about Pencil or the contestants. It was about the isolation. She talks about how she was left out, how nobody would listen to her, how she tried playing out every possible scenario and kept ending up back on the moon or getting zapped and hurt. The only option she could see was to take the power and hold everyone back so she could finally reach Three again. She even admits she’s tried going back in time to change things, but realised those versions of Four and Two weren’t the ones who let her get close in the first place, so that’s why the only way she could see was to force the issue by taking power and holding everyone in place until she could properly fix Three.

And Black Hole’s response is what makes the whole scene legendary. He doesn’t immediately go “you’re evil, stop.” He pushes back, sure (“Just because something bad happened to you doesn’t mean you can do this to all of us too. You’re not avenging Three that way”), but he keeps listening. He keeps asking questions. He treats her like someone whose pain is real even while refusing to excuse the harm she’s causing. I didn’t expect Black Hole to be some kind of therapist. It’s kinda giving me Gaty and Two’s dynamic, to be honest. Just like how Gaty was one of the few contestants who actually took the time to talk to Two like a regular person instead of just a powerful host, Black Hole does the exact same thing for One here and it’s just so wholesome. And besides, after everything One went through, she definitely needs a therapist to talk to and process her trauma, and honestly? Black Hole is the perfect fit for the job. 

I never really thought about it until now, but Black Hole seems like such a perfect fit for a therapist/emotional anchor. I mean, he’s a pacifist, he’s all about avoiding conflict, he’s all laid-back and rarely gets pissed, and he has that incredibly deep, soothing voice that just naturally de-escalates any tense situation. He really brings this grounded, calming presence to a character who has spent her entire existence spiraling out of control.

Anyways, back to the point. The two continue the chat, with One talking about how she used her blackmail schemes to exploit everyone's vulnerabilities. She basically admits that she’s been observing all the contestants, studying them, and finding exactly what makes them tick just so she can trap them in those contracts. To her, it's just a means to an end, a strategic necessity to gather enough leverage and power to fix things with Three.

Then Marker shows up through another black hole that is a gateway to One’s dimension. Marker tried to get Black Hole’s attention, excited to see him again, but Black Hole shushed him and have Marker use him as shield while Black Hole continued talking to One like Marker wasn’t even there. They continued to talk and the conversation even turned its attention to the red door leading to the Equation Playground, pointing out it’s cool craftsmanship and One told Black Hole that he was right, pointing out that she did a pretty good job with everything in her pocket dimension. One then mentioned that if everything goes right, maybe she can help with the hotel or whatever. And before we continue, I just wanna point out how that specific part is the closest we ever gotten to One hinting at having a redemption arc. Like, the fact that she’s already thinking about the hotel and helping out once everything is sorted feels huge. Black Hole then talked about how he wished he could smell the flowers and how it’s one of the reasons why he wants to have those powers in the first place. One pointed out that he has so much power, yet he can’t do something as smelling a flower. 

Before One could continue the conversation, Black Hole told Marker to enter the door and that’s when One found out that Marker is also there. Marker was begging for Black Hole to enter through the door as well, but it disappeared. Black Hole then nervously struggled to keep his composure and that’s when One goes BATSHIT! Lasers were coming from One’s eyes, firing in all directions as Black Hole repeatedly told her that he is sorry. 

One claimed that Black Hole tricked her all along! She lashed out, shouting, “You tricked me! You pretended like you understood me, cared!” Now, here’s the thing, I do think Black Hole genuinely cared for her and that he wasn’t just putting on a fake therapy act. I feel like One is just lashing out after finding out Marker is there as well and that's what triggers her severe betrayal trauma. When you’ve been isolated, lied to, and sealed away for years, your immediate reaction to any sign of deception is to assume the absolute worst. Black Hole then told One that having immense power doesn’t mean you automatically have to go nuts with it, pointing out how he’s spent his whole life learning to control what he’s capable of and how One doesn’t care about other people, only herself. And it’s not like Black Hole means it in a malicious way. I mean, he spent most of the episode having a heart-to-heart with the show’s antagonist and he actually cares about her and everything she has gone through, but at the same time, he isn't going to let her continue hurting everyone just because she's hurting. 

One had enough with Black Hole and teleported out of the realm. Black Hole immediately knew what One was up to as you could hear him say “WAIT. NO!” We then see One in her room where she watches her monitors and realizes that the rest of the contestants are rallying together against her. One was FUMING, so Black Hole tried to distract her by sucking up her stuff. But One just glares at Black Hole and teleports to Earth. 

Then after a while, we see Black Hole watching the monitors where Fanny speaks to him from Earth through the broadcast/communication line. Fanny tells him that if he and Marker are inside One’s pocket dimension, he needs to destroy it all from the inside to hold her back and stop her plan. However, for some reason, Black Hole was being hesitant, he was holding back. Now the obvious answer could be because Black Hole is a Death Pacter and his whole core principle is preventing death and avoiding destruction. But I think another reason is because he genuinely connected with One and sees the good in her, even after everything she did. I could be totally wrong, but that heart-to-heart sounded so wholesome and it looked like for the first time in One’s life, there is someone who understands what she’s been through and most importantly, someone who is taking the time to truly listen. I believe that after the whole chat, Black Hole doesn’t see her as just a monster, he sees a  broken soul that was failed by everyone around her. 

If that theory is actually real, that would be so sweet of Black Hole. Imagine he was like “I can’t” not just because his whole life mission is to prevent death, but because he actually cares and doesn’t want to see her completely broken or destroyed. He saw someone who was alone, isolated, and desperately hurting, and destroying her realm felt like destroying the last bit of safety she had built for herself. He hesitated because he still had hope that she could be saved, not just stopped. 

And that’s basically it for what we seen from One and Black Hole.

Honestly, this whole interaction is probably the most heartwarming and well-written character moments I have seen in a long time. The fact that Black Hole was having a heart-to-heart with One and was actually willing to listen to her side of the story even though he had every right to treat her as an active threat is just so wholesome.

Like, before the episode came out, everyone was expecting One and Black Hole to be at each other’s throats and maybe have a fight scene of some kind. But instead, we basically got a full-blown therapy session where One can vent about her trauma, isolation, and why she felt forced to pull all these extreme moves in the first place. Sure it was unexpected, but man, it just hits different. They could of easily made Black Hole just another obstacle for One to vaporize or fight off, but they decided to give them a route to showcase character depth and have One showcase a far more complex, tragic side to her villainy. Sure, it ended with One lashing out and teleporting away to wreak havoc, but the emotional foundation was already laid. It wasn't a wasted interaction; it was a character-defining moment that is just so heartwarming in the best way possible. 

Now, you probably might know me as being the most vocal One redemption arc advocate in the OSC. I even made a 5 part Google Docs fanfic series on how I would write a potential redemption arc for her, so let’s now talk about how will this interaction have anything to do with TPOT 25 and how it could be a potential gateway to a redemption arc.

This whole conversation, not just the ‘help with the hotel’ comment, feels like the writers are trying to hint at redemption arc. The fact that One showed her more vulnerable, insecure side and even suggested that she could be useful for something constructive like the hotel, is giving ‘One is going to be redeemed’ energy and I have a theory about how this could end up playing out.

My theory is: in the middle of the massive battle between One and everyone else, Black Hole is going to talk some sense into her. I think he’s going to point out that she didn’t wake up and decide to be a villain, how solitary confinement is the root cause of her villainy, and how One isn’t beyond saving if she just decides to turn over a new leaf. He would tell her that he genuinely believes that she’s capable of being more than just the villain of everyone’s story, that she can change and become the best version of herself. Black Hole would basically be the one holding the emotional line in the middle of the chaos, telling her that the isolation, the years on the moon, the way the other Algebraliens treated her, none of that means she has to keep choosing the path that hurts everyone else. This would get into One’s head and it would be obvious as she began to not fight back against the contestants and algebralians as much during the battle and started hesitating on her attacks. Like, the lasers slow down, the teleports get less aggressive, and you can see that seed of doubt Black Hole planted earlier starting to grow. Then, when the dust settles, One gets defeated, and Four threatens to send her back to the moon, that’s when One’s redemption arc would begin, whether that’s the messy, painful, long arc of my How I Would Write a One Redemption Arc Post-Trilogy fanfic series or something shorter and more immediate that still feels earned after everything we’ve seen. Now, I want Two to be one who becomes the main reason for One’s redemption, but either way, this interaction would plant the seed.

Anyway, that’s all from me for now. Let me know what you thought of the One and Black Hole scenes down below. Did it hit the same way for you, or am I just overglazing it?

Until next time, this is Mr. TV signing off.

u/BigTennis4580 — 3 days ago
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So TPOT 24 just dropped, here is my review

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. After being premiered in multiple BFDI x II tour locations, TPOT 24 is officially out. After the notorious TPOT 23 which was infamously known for its weird pacing, That’s What Foes Are For is finally here, hoping to redeem the Defeat One trilogy. Let’s go over a few things

Firstly, I can say that THIS IS NOT A ‘PENCIL EPISODE’! 🎉🎉🎉

When we saw the teaser of the episode and all, a lot of people were worried that Pencil would swallow up the entire episode's screen time because apparently, this is where we see most of her time travelling shenanigans (turns out to be a simulated world), but the episode actually manages to balance the screen time surprisingly well across all the plotlines! I mean, of course Pencil wouldn’t take all of the screentime, but the way they handled her realization and development in this episode was actually peak writing! Having her come to terms with the fact that she was the source of her alliance's toxicity and her choosing to quit TPOT is easily one of the highlight character moments of the whole show so far.

That musical sequence ("That's What Foes Are For") was an absolute masterpiece. Having Pencil run through all those simulated timelines only to realize that she was the common denominator in breaking her own alliance, followed by her choosing to self-eliminate and quit the show to prioritize her actual friends over the prize... man, what a arc. The song hit so hard visually and emotionally. 

Secondly, LOVE Black Hole’s dynamic with One in this episode. When Black Hole was first trapped in One’s room, we thought we are going to see this like huge showdown between One and Black Hole, but instead we get One explaining everything while Black Hole was being all understanding with how One was isolated and how tragic she actually is underneath all that villainy. 

The conversation where One reveals why she's doing all of this was done so well and it shows a more vulnerable side that she tries so hard to hide. And the fact that Black Hole’s probably one of the first people in years to ever listened to her vent is actually really heartwarming because up until now, she never had anyone just sit down and treat her like an actual person instead of just a cosmic threat… well, that’s until Marker entered the room via another black hole, which caused One to go absolutely wild because she thought Black Hole wasn’t being understanding and have empathy even though he most likely was. 

Now, what does that say to me as the subreddit’s residential One redemption arc advocate? Firstly, I feel like with One showing her vulnerable side to Black Hole and admitting that after everything she wants to help out with the hotel when this mess is over, it’s hinting that in some way, One will be redeemed if she realizes how far she’s gone. And secondly, I feel like if One were to go down a redemption route, I feel like Black Hole is going to be the key factor or at least one of the main reasons. I still want Two to be the one to offer a hand and save her from the dark, but after this episode alone, Black Hole is definitely going to play a key role in getting through to her. 

Thirdly, let’s talk about Four. In the past, I had called him out on multiple posts for being a hypocrite, for trapping One in the moon for years and abusing his contestants while acting all high and mighty, and for genuinely being terrible host who dishes out abuse while preaching justice. I can finally say that FOUR HAS DONE SOMETHING RIGHT IN HIS LIFE FOR ONCE… well, that’s only in the past though. 

So, Three told Purple Face her tragic backstory. You know, the 2009 incident and all? Well, turns out at first, Four didn’t just leave Three to rot after putting her in what is now the EXIT, he actually spent however long (assuming it’s days or weeks) trying to get Three back to normal. He tried multiple times and his methods got worse every time he failed, but he was genuinely trying to help Three before he eventually gave up and built the EXIT around her as a coping mechanism. So, while I’m glad Four at some point did try to help recover Three, that was over 16 years ago, so that definitely doesn’t excuse him ditching Three and later on being the tyrant he is.

Fourthly, let’s talk about the pacing. The problem TPOT 23 mostly suffered from according to the vocal subset of the fanbase is that TPOT 23 felt like it had everything going had everything going on at once without giving scenes enough time to breathe. TPOT 24 fixes this issue massively. The pacing here is remarkably balanced! Despite hopping between the simulated timelines, One and Black Hole, the contestants, and Three and Purple Face, they are able to pull off each scene with enough room to let emotional beats hit properly without feeling rushed.

And finally, fifthly: THAT CLIMAX. Fanny telling Black Hole to suck up One's entire dimension while he's still stuck inside it, Four and One’s mini-fight, and Black Hole actually having to consider sacrificing himself/his morals to stop One once and for all? And before we got to the stringer (which I’ll get to in a minute), we see a split screen of One and Fanny, and Fanny said her iconic ‘I hate you’ line to her. And at the ending of the episode, we see Gaty floating in a pitch-black void. We finally get to see where Gaty and assumedly the other deleted contestants went! And that was a wrap.

Final Thoughts:

This episode was a wonderful breath of fresh air and a massive step up from last time. While TPOT 23 felt a bit cluttered and hurried—landing at about a 7.5/10 for me, TPOT 24 is a strong 9/10. It took the heavy setup from the previous episode and gave every major plotline the care and execution it deserved. The MVP of the episode for me is NOT Pencil, but it’s a tie between One and Black Hole. Their whole interaction in this episode was without a doubt THE highlight of the 34 minutes. Seeing Black Hole actually try to connect with One on an emotional level, coupled with One's brief moment of genuine vulnerability, made that subplot unforgettable. 

All in all, jacknjellify knocked it out of the park with this one. The pacing was great, the emotional payoff for some of the characters was incredible, and it sets up the final leg of the Defeat One trilogy in the best way possible. 

What do y’all think about this episode? How would you rate That’s What Foes Are For compared to TPOT 23? Do you think One’s redemption is actually on the table now, or are you still convinced that she’s beyond saving? Let me know your thoughts in the comments below, I’m dying to see everyone’s takes on this one!

u/BigTennis4580 — 3 days ago
▲ 6 r/MrTV07+1 crossposts

Would you prefer season 7 to be an all stars season, an underdog season, or to keep things traditionally?

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So recently, there is another trend of season 7 cast posts where users (including myself) come up with what they think season 7’s cast will be or in my and other people’s cases, their dream cast for the next season. Looking at all these different rosters, it got me thinking about how the show should actually handle the cast of Season 7. Specifically: would you prefer it to be an all-stars season, an underdog season, or would you rather they keep things traditional.

By "traditionally," I mean having a standard, balanced cast of about 20 to 35 contestants selected by the creators (or in BFDIA’s case, by the voters). This is your normal BFDI format, where the creators don’t have to worry about any gimmicks or themes, and can simply focus on choosing a solid roster regardless of how popular a character is or how well they’ve performed in the past.

As for my stance on this, I definitely lean towards keeping things traditional. I’ve explained on multiple occasions why I’m not really a fan of these types of potential BFDI seasons and I also had pointed out a lot of their flaws.

Firstly, let’s get this out of the way: it’s my biasism towards my three favorite characters: Cake, Remote, and Fanny. According to most definitions/concepts, Fanny is obviously an all star. There’s no denying that. As for Cake and Remote? Most people would probably classify them as underdogs. They were both eliminated relatively early in TPOT (Remote in TPOT 5 and Cake in TPOT 8) and don't exactly have the best competition records. Because of this, if jacknjellify went with an All-Stars season, Fanny would be it and Cake and Remote wouldn’t, while if they went with an Underdog season, Cake and Remote would make the cut, but Fanny would be left out. And no, I’m not complaining because they wouldn’t become a trio and all. There is probably a little to no chance those three suddenly get to interact on-screen as a trio anyway, but it’s more about them being my favourites and all. You know, the bias factor. Before you come at me for that, a  lot of people would probably say the same thing if their favorites were left out.

“But Mr. TV, you’ve literally survived 20+ episodes without Cake and Remote! Surely you can survive a season without them?” Alright, fair point. I can already hear some of you calling me a hypocrite for this, but like I said, you would probably say the same thing if your absolute favorites were locked out of a new season from day one. And here’s the thing, I wouldn’t be pissed or throw a fit if they were left out of the cast. Sure, I would be really disappointed, but just like any sane fan, I’d still watch it and enjoy it. But my personal biasism aside, there are a couple of structural flaws with both of these themed concepts that make me lean heavily towards the traditional route.

First, let’s look at All-Stars. The biggest issue here is it being a popularity contest. These are some of the best of the best, but because of that, you end up with the same faces hogging the spotlight. We’ve already spent so much time watching these characters dominate the screen, get massive arcs, and go incredibly far in previous seasons. A season dedicated entirely to them feels a bit redundant, and it basically gives them WAY MORE attention than they should have. Plus, we don’t wanna see Firey and Leafy being the main characters for the hundredth time because knowing jacknjellify, if we were to go down the All Stars path, those two would inevitably end up dominating the narrative and stealing the spotlight all over again.

 

Now, let’s have a look at what an Underdog season would look like. Now on paper, showcasing characters who have never had the chance to shine sounds like an awesome concept. It gives early-outs and underrated contestants their well-deserved spotlight. But here’s the thing, these are some of the least popular contestants out there. Like yeah, they can get have character development and yeah, some underdogs might surprise us, but a season consisting entirely of low-ranked characters might struggle to keep the broader audience engaged. Many of these contestants were voted out early because they lacked strong dynamics or simply didn’t resonate with the voters at the time. A cast purely made of underdogs risks feeling a bit flat without those established, high-energy characters to bounce off of. It also puts a lot of pressure on the writers to completely reinvent 20 to 30 characters all at once, which could easily lead to forced arcs or rushed writing. Another reason is “star power”. Most of the more well-loved or established characters are the popular ones. Heck, even the ones that are one of the main reasons why people tune in. They are recognisable, they are the most talked about, and if that contestant is a Firey or Leafy-like figure, they are one of the first contestants people think of when they hear the name "BFDI". If there is none of the mainstream star power to draw people in, it wouldn’t be as popular or favourable. If it’s just a bunch of people don’t really know (BFDIE is the exception) or don’t really care about, the overall engagement is going to drop off. You need those big, recognizable names to act as a hook even if some of those should retire or take a back seat for a bit to let other characters breathe.

This is exactly why the traditional route is the best option, in my opinion. It gives you the best of both worlds. You get the established star power of your popular characters to draw people in and keep things engaging, but you also have plenty of room to highlight the underdogs and give them the development they need. Having a cast of like 20-35 contestants with no gimmicks or thematic restrictions means that it would be a season most fans would get used to because it’s like any other traditional BFDI season out there. You get a natural mix of top-tier players, mid-tier fan favorites, and early-out contestants, and even if the writers lean towards the more well-established characters (and that would probably affect the rest of the competition’s record), it still leaves the door wide open for those lesser-known gems to surprise us and get their moment in the spotlight. In a traditional season, you don't have to force a manufactured narrative about "defying the odds" or "clashing titans." It just lets the characters interact and grow naturally.

It also keeps the stakes feeling genuine. When you label a season "All-Stars," there's an immediate expectation of high-tier gameplay and massive, plot-heavy drama, which can easily lead to character burnout. And with "Underdogs," most people would probably expect a "zero-to-hero" arc for literally everyone which may be exciting but is ultimately completely unrealistic. If every single contestant is trying to pull off a massive, emotional redemption arc, the narrative gets incredibly bloated. Not everyone needs to have a ground-breaking story to tell, and trying to give 20 to 30 characters that kind of spotlight simultaneously is a recipe for disaster. Some characters are just meant to be fun comic relief, and that’s perfectly fine!

But that’s just my two cents. But I’ll leave it to you guys.

Would you guys prefer an All-Stars season, an Underdogs season, or just keeping things traditional? Let me know your thoughts in the comments below! I'm genuinely curious to see where the rest of the community stands on this.

Anyways, this is Mr. TV signing off. Peace ✌️

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u/BigTennis4580 — 4 days ago
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TPOT 25’s teaser if the How I Would Write a One Redemption Arc Post-Trilogy series were to become a reality (made on TweetGen by me)

There are two metaphors when it comes to this:

  1. the green light represents Two reaching out to pull One out of the dark, the moon obviously representing the place where the ‘dark‘ all started

  2. the 2 and 5 are in Two and One’s color palette, hinting at not only One’s redemption arc but the beginning of a brand new dynamic between One and Two

u/BigTennis4580 — 4 days ago
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Okay, I need to get a few things off my chest about dynamics/interactions

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So you probably know me from either my One redemption arc advocacy, my Fanmote content, or from my fanmade trio F•R•C (Fanny, Remote, and Cake). 

I just wanna come on here and get something off my chest regarding how this community views character dynamics and interactions. Lately, I saw a post about a season 7 cast (and I’m not naming names) which threw shade at F•R•C (or how they like to call it RFC), saying that the three only interacted in TPOT 22, therefore my argument is stupid. 

And honestly? It’s getting incredibly exhausting to hear that same old talking point repeated over and over. So I was inspired by one of the recent posts of the one and only NoLocal and wanted to talk to you about how we view character dynamics and potential in this community. 

Before we continue, I just wanna say that I mean no offence, so if you think the things I said are coming off as aggressive or overly defensive, please let me know, because that’s not my intention. I just want to have an honest chat about how we treat character potential and dynamics in this fandom. Anyways, let’s get to the point.

So a few times when F•R•C is mentioned or when I post about them, a rare but vocal group of people will immediately jump in to say: "They have zero chemistry because they've barely spoken to each other.” or “why are you trying to force a dynamic out of nowhere,” and my answer to that is… that’s literally the point! 

Dynamics are literally created when two or more characters who have barely spoken or slightly interacted end up forming a bond, whether that’s a friendship or a rivalry. Think about it, every single established  BFDI dynamic in the entire show started off as two or more characters who had never interacted before! The only dynamic that I could probably say comes to mind as an exception is Match and Pencil, because they were introduced as established best friends from the very first episode. There could be many other exceptions, but for almost everyone else, their bonds had to start from absolute scratch.

Take Death P.A.C.T for example. The eight members didn’t form a team because they knew each other for years and had already established bonds. They were put together under a shared goal of preventing death, and through that, we got incredible, fresh dynamics like Liy and Bottle, or Black Hole and Pen.

Let’s have a look at the Losers! who before becoming a team already had a few established connections like Pin, Coiny, and Needle. But as for them as a whole? They were a mismatched group of contestants, like Loser, Clock, Eggy, Cake, and Firey, who had never all interacted as a unit before. Their entire team dynamic had to be built from the ground up, starting with their shared idolisation of Loser and gradually evolving into their own individual relationships.

That leads to F•R•C. Because Fanny and Remote DID had a few interactions, Cake and Remote DID had an interaction back in TPOT 2 (where Remote kicked down Just Not’s stack after Cake accused her of wanting to mess with it), and Cake and Fanny had a few interactions like back in BFB 1 where Fanny sat on Cake’s head or TPOT 22 when the two along with Pie, Pillow, and Snowball had to deal with Snowball's chaotic attempts at using Two's powers. Them as a trio? They never interacted and them being in the same room DOES NOT count!  

And that’s where the fun of fan content actually begins!

Fan dynamics like F•R•C aren't meant to be a direct copy of canon history. As long as their core personalities are intact and the characters aren’t completely random, they serve as a creative exploration. My F•R•C concept is basically a creative process of asking: What would it look like if Cake, Fanny, and Remote actually sat down, interacted, and truly bonded with each other? That’s literally the same creative process of any other dynamic we see in the show itself. The writers one day sat down and was like ‘Let's put Coiny and Pin together' or 'Hey, what if Cake and Loser interacted, resulting in Cake looking up to him?'

Yet, when a fan tries to do the exact same thing, it’s suddenly labeled as "unrealistic," "forced," or "having zero chemistry." With all due respect, that’s hypocritical, don’t you think?

Like NoLocal pointed out in their post, we shouldn't define these contestants solely by their old dynamics. If we only let characters hang out with the exact same people they've known since season 1 or BFDIA, the show would become stale, repetitive, and completely devoid of any real character growth. How are we ever supposed to get new, compelling storylines if we keep restricting characters to the same small social circles they’ve been in for years? If Pin only ever talks to Coiny, or if Death P.A.C.T members never branch out, we lose the chance to see how these characters react to completely new personalities.

And let me remind y’all that this same exact process happens in real life. You don’t spawn into the world with a pre-programmed group of friends and enemies. You meet people you have never interacted with before, and through random encounters, shared goals, shared interests, or just being in the same space, you build a connection. Some of those people become your closest friends, while others might become your rivals. That is how dynamics are naturally built, real life or fiction.  

My point is this: stop saying a fan dynamic "makes no sense" just because it hasn’t been explicitly spelled out on screen yet. That’s literally the same creative process the writers use to give us the dynamics we love today. Fan dynamics like F•R•C aren’t ‘pointless’ or ‘stupid’ just because  they haven’t spent three seasons sharing screen time. They exist to test new waters, spark creative ideas, and explore possibilities the main show hasn't gotten around to yet.

So I want y’all to take this into consideration the next time you see someone sharing a fanmade group or a new dynamic. Give it a fair shot! Ask yourself what potential interactions could bring to the table before dismissing it off the bat, because at the end of the day, fan content is all about having fun, being creative, and seeing what could be if we let these characters step outside their usual boxes. And before you dismiss any fan dynamic, just ask yourself: how are already established dynamics made in the first place? They were built from scratch.

And that’s it for today, mates! Thanks for listening to me rant a bit. I really do love this community, and I just want us to embrace the endless possibilities when it comes to character potential and what interactions we can explore.

So what do y’all think? Do you think fan content like fresh new dynamics are valid, or do you prefer keeping characters strictly to their usual canon circles? Have you ever made a fan dynamic or group that got shut down just because they "never talked before"? I’d love to hear your thoughts down below! Let’s keep it civil in the comments, and I’m curious to see where everyone stands on this.

Catch ya later, mates!

u/BigTennis4580 — 5 days ago
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WATCH OUT Y’ALL! PEAK IS COMING OUT THIS SUNDAY (Monday for me)

And also, pay respects to Fifteen in the chat y‘all

u/BigTennis4580 — 5 days ago
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Time for a history lesson on my fanmade trio F•R•C (or as they were unofficially (not too sure if want to make it their former name or not) formerly known as Triple Threat)

u/BigTennis4580 — 5 days ago
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Okay, so a storyboard(?) preview of TPOT 23+2 just dropped

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So Jacknjellify has recently dropped a short preview on X, and I, like anyone else in the whole OSC right now, is straight up baffled.

If you haven't seen it yet, the clip looks like a rough storyboard and it shows a bunch of characters that look exactly like One. But here’s the twist: they have arms, they're wearing construction hats, and they’re frantically dealing with some kind of growing hole.

However, as much I love myself a good plot twist, I have a theory that jacknjellify is actually using One's model as a placeholder to hide the actual characters in this scene, simply to prevent any major sp**ers before the episode drops.

I just don’t see a world where One has clones with arms and are construction workers. But here’s the thing, throughout the preview, these construction workers actually refer to themselves as "One", so this could lead to another theory: Just like Zero, One (and maybe even all the other integers) have multiple clones floating around, but that honestly feels like a huge reach to me.

So the theory I’m locking on is that Jacknjellify is just using One’s asset as a placeholder because they don’t wanna sp**l everything in that specific scene. By slapping One’s asset to a bunch of characters and adding arms, they get to tease a scene while keeping the real characters' identities completely under wraps.

Alright, I’ll keep this post short today, so thank you for reading, and I’m super curious to hear what you all reckon down in the comments!

Do you think Jacknjellify is pulling a classic placeholder trick to not sp**l an entire scene or are we actually about to see an army of arm-bearing One clones doing manual labour? Let me know your thoughts below because I’m genuinely curious where the community stands on this clip!

Anyway, that’s all from me today. This is Mr. TV. Peace!

u/BigTennis4580 — 5 days ago
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I recently came up with a season 7 cast, now it’s time to make the teams

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So not long ago, I decided to come up with my dream season 7 cast and I decide to not make the cast an underdog nor an all stars season cast. If you don’t know, I never liked the concept of BFDI underdog and all stars seasons because I prefer seasons to be traditional and balanced, and this might be biased but another reason is because according to most definitions, Fanny is a all star while my other top two favorites, Remote and Cake are usually considered underdogs. So if I do an All Stars season, I would have to separate Fanny from Remote and Cake, and if I do an Underdogs season, I’d have to leave Fanny out completely.

So I came up with a season consisting of 25 contestants, with a mix of fan favourites like Golf Ball and Fanny, underdogs like Cake, 8 Ball, Roboty, and Remote, a few of the TPOT failed debuters, and Tune as your only representative from BFDIA 5B. I also didn’t add any contestants who made it in the final 3 in past seasons to keep the playing field completely fair and give contestants who deserve more screen time a fresh chance to shine. And if you haven’t noticed already, none of the BFDIE contestants are in this season. Don’t know why, but here we are.

In this post, I’ll take those 25 contestants and divide them into 5 balanced teams of 5, so let’s dive right into them! 

The first team is H.A.T.E, which consists of Cake, Fanny (co-leader), Remote (co-leader), Tune, and Clapboard. Now the team name is actually an acronym, so, no, Hate is only the short name. Coined by Fanny, this name obviously raised a bit of eyebrows at first since everybody thought Fanny is just naming the team that because she hates everything! But Fanny told everyone that Hate is actually an acronym and it actually stands for Hardworking And True Excellence, reflecting the team’s belief that they are capable of achieving greatness through sheer grit and dedication.

As for the team’s lore, for starters, Fanny and Remote finally get to be an actual duo! As seen in TPOT, Remote’s elimination and writers giving them limited interactions really robbed us of seeing their full potential, but in season 7, they get to show the world what they bring to the table as both a duo and co-leaders. However, Fanny and Remote aren’t the only core dynamic here. That’s right, F•R•C’s being formed! After rejecting Loser’s offer to form a team together to focus on himself, Cake immediately took the opportunity to link up with Fanny and Remote! With Cake finally stepping out of Loser's shadow and asserting his independence, this gives us the iconic F•R•C trio we’ve all been waiting for! Clapboard, who Fanny and Remote sees the potential in and offered to mentor him, becomes the team’s prodigy. And to round out the team, we have Tune, who might get a voice actor in this season. With how laid-back and chill Tune is, she brings a grounded, soothing presence to the team and could be the voice of reason.

Next up, we got No Favorite Numbers, consisting of Golf Ball (co-leader), 8 Ball (co-leader), Puffball, Fries, and TV! The team name was coined accidentally by 8 Ball (making it the third or fourth time GB is on a team where its name was accidental). How it was accidental? Well, let’s just say 8 Ball said something like “Well, I have no favourite numbers…” and before he could say anything else, the team logo and jingle popped up automatically! 

Now let’s talk about team lore. First of all, 8 Ball and Golf Ball have reconciled and are now good friends which led to the team being formed. After everything that went down in early BFB, 8-Ball realized that he completely ruined the previous team they were both on by causing internal friction and undermining GB’s leadership, while Golf Ball realized that her rigid, bossy approach wasn't going to get her anywhere without mutual respect. So, after a heart-to-heart, 8-Ball apologized, GB accepted, and they decided to join forces. The rest of the teammates are some Golf Ball’s former teammates. From Are You Okay, we have Puffball and Fries, and from A Better Name Than That, we have TV! With this setup, Golf Ball has her usual inner circle, but with a revamped dynamic where 8-Ball acts as a grounding co-leader to translate her chaotic genius into plans the team actually wants to follow. 

The third team is The Losers Again, consisting of Loser (leader), Winner, Clock, Price Tag, and Gaty! At first, Loser didn’t really wanna be the central focus of the team, but the other members insisted on making him the leader anyway, mostly out of habit but to not make the team another Loser celebrity cult. With Loser as the leader, he called the team The Losers Again!

Now for the lore on this one. Obviously in TPOT, Winner and Loser reunited and back to being friends, and in Season 7, they finally get the chance to compete alongside each other properly! Winner also brought in their old friend Clock, who is completely past his Winner obsession phase and is back to being his mature, sometimes cynical, and logical self. Rounding out the team are Price Tag and Gaty! Price Tag has a close friendship with Winner back in TPOT, so bringing them onto the same team just makes sense! They’re both relatively new faces who bonded over being outsiders in a cast full of veterans. Gaty rounds everything out as the team’s laid-back voice of reason. 

Fourth team is Papercut, led by Liy and featuring Foldy, Tapey, Onigiri, and Teardrop! The team was coined by Liy because she thought it was edgy and fits the team’s almost-paper-related vibe. Liy wanted something that sounded sharp, a little dangerous, and way cooler than whatever boring name the other teams were cooking up, though she admitted that H.A.T.E is probably the coolest name by a long shot. Still, Papercut stuck, and the team’s been rolling with it ever since.

As for the lore, firstly, Liy and Foldy have finally the hatchet for good! Realising that they haven’t been beefing since 2017/2018 due to Liy’s elimination, they found that their BFB rivalry is getting old and pointless. After years of distance (and Liy’s long stay in the EXIT which saw Liy forming a bond with Foldy’s best friend Stapy), the two finally sat down, talked it out, and agreed that holding onto that old grudge was just wasting energy. Foldy even admitted that Liy seems like a cool person, and Liy told Foldy that she is now close friends with Stapy. That whole EXIT experience changed a lot for Liy, and she made it clear she doesn’t want to drag old drama into a brand-new season. Foldy accepted the olive branch, and just like that the old rivalry is officially dead. As for the rest of the team, I didn’t have any reason for why the other members are in that team other than they were the last ones available, but looking back, it actually works out perfectly! Tapey is another paper-adjacent object who brings that sticky, reliable energy, and Onigiri and Teardrop could form a silent but powerful support duo

Finally, we’ve got The Not-So Mechanical Minds: PDA, Robot Flower (leader), Roboty, Lightning and Snare Drum. The name was coined by Robot Flower herself after she realised that only two of the team members are actually mechanical minds (those being herself and Roboty) and she thought the name has a good ring to it. She figured calling themselves something like “The Mechanical Minds” would’ve been too on-the-nose and a little dishonest, so she slapped “Not-So” in front of it and everyone just rolled with it. 

Now for the actual lore. Robot Flower finally gets to step into a proper leadership role after having that whole ‘I just want to be the real Flower’ arc. In this season she’s fully herself and has embraced being Robot Flower. She is also working on being an actual good person, so she is ready to lead by example and what’s better than forming her own squad. After realising that Remote is locked in with Fanny and TV had joined forces with Golf Ball's crew, Robot Flower decides to recruit the only other mechanical mind left in the game: Roboty. She sees a kindred spirit in him, determined to help him find his voice or at least translate his Morse code so the rest of the team actually knows what he’s saying. Then we have PDA, who takes on the role of the resident intellectual (and is also known to be really narcissistic which could lead to some hilarious head-butting with Robot Flower). Lightning acts as both the muscle and flying transport (that’s if hopping on him doesn’t zap you!), while Snare Drum is the rookie of the team, bringing an enthusiastic approach that keeps the group moving forward. 

And that’s the teams! Looking back, I’m actually super hyped with how these dynamics turned out. Each team brings a totally unique vibe to the table, and honestly, the potential for character arcs, strategic plays, and  sheer comedic chaos in this season is through the roof!

So what do y’all think of these teams? Which one are you rooting for, and who do you think is going to be the first one to face elimination?  Let me know your thoughts down below. Right now, I’m not planning on making this a actual fanfic series project yet (for obvious reasons ranging from me can’t draw for shit to my brain potentially getting burnt out writing whole episodes), but who knows? If I have the energy and if enough of you guys are interested, I might turn this into a series, but this might most likely be just a fun, one-off thing, so don’t get your hopes too high just yet! 

Thanks for reading and I’ll see you in the comments!

u/BigTennis4580 — 6 days ago
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My dream Season 7 cast except it’s neither a underdog nor all star season

if this was the cast, what dynamics would you like to see explored, what teams would you like to see formed, who would be the first eliminate, and who would be the final 3?

u/BigTennis4580 — 6 days ago
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My dream Season 7 cast except it’s neither a underdog nor all star season

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u/BigTennis4580 — 6 days ago
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Inanimate Insanity Vulture - a Inanimate Insanity Season 5 concept by Mr. TV

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. So I decided to cook up a concept for a fifth season of Inanimate Insanity. Today, we’re gonna explore my concept for season 5 of II, even though the real season 5 won’t be out for months or even years considering II IV is currently just wrapping up its 7th episode. 

The title of the season is Inanimate Insanity Vulture (or IIV for short) and you probably be asking “Mr. TV, why is it called Inanimate Insanity Vulture?”

To be completely honest with you guys... there’s no deep lore behind it. I just find the word "Vulture" cool as hell, plus the IIV abbreviation aligns perfectly with the Roman numeral V, just like how Inanimate Insanity Invitational is abbreviated as III. 

As for the vibe and tone? Think of it as like Inanimate Insanity Invitational’s cooler, slightly edgier cousin. It basically brings back  the laid-back and light hearted atmosphere of III… but it lowkey has the seasoning sprinkled on top. Not in the sense that everyone suddenly starts trauma-dumping every five minutes or the show becomes completely miserable, but more in the sense of: 

• The characters can be petty and more complex 

• The plot is more story-driven and focuses more on character dynamics rather than just slapstick gags

• the comedy is more unhinged, leaning into dark humour and  situations that would probably make MePhone4 say “what the fuck” and then immediately try to monetize it

• Characters are allowed to actually be actual assholes at times. Yeah, II3 does have characters like Silver Spoon and Tea Kettle who can absolutely be assholes, but IIV would basically take that aspect and turn the dial up a little bit. Not to the point where every character is an insufferable dickhead, because then we'd just be watching 25 people yell at each other for 20 minutes, but enough that characters can hold grudges, make bad choices, and have real personal friction without it immediately being wrapped up with a clean “we’re cool now” by like 5 episodes (which will affect a iconic pairing, but we'll get to that in a second). 

So basically, IIV is like this in a nutshell:

III:  “Hey, look at this fun and chill competition where  everyone is just vibing on an island and maybe causally get into a fight… and also have an epic finale at the  end.” 

IIV: “Hey, look at this fun and chill competition where everyone is just vibing on an island and maybe casually gets into a fight… except the humor is unhinged, the character development is more of a focus point, and at least one person is probably going to make a decision that causes the entire cast to collectively go “OH, YOU FUCKED  UP!”

Now, let me introduce y’all to the hosts. Since MePhone4 is dead and I have MePad as a minor character, there is a need of change in the hosting department!

Taking over main host duties is MePhone 17 Plus, the newest model of Meeple’s MePhone line. Let me do a run down of who he is:

Name: MePhone 17 Plus 

Gender: Male (He/Him but also accepts It/Its pronouns too)

Personality: Calm, professional, authoritative, showman-like, quick-witted, diplomatic, smooth-talking, level-headed, stoic yet charismatic, cynical, and aloof

Appearance: MePhone 17 Plus is modeled after a modern high-end flagship smartphone, complete with a sleek metallic chassis, razor-thin bezels, and a prominent Dynamic Island at the top of his display. His screen features a deep blue and black gradient wallpaper. Bright, glowing neon-blue eyes and a matching neon-blue mouth stand out vividly against the dark backdrop. Widely considered by contestants to be the most dripped out MePhone in the series, his design carries an effortlessly clean, high-tech, and executive aesthetic.

Alongside MePhone 17 Plus is the third and latest generation of MeTag: MeTag 3. Just like I did with MePhone 17 Plus, let me give you a quick rundown on MeTag 3:

Name: MeTag 3

Gender: Non-binary (They/Them)

Personality: laid-back, charming, confident, adaptable, resourceful, a bit stubborn, analytical, slightly cocky, and smooth-talking

Appearance: MeTag 3 retains the classic disc-shaped design of the original MeTag, but with a sleek, polished dark aesthetic, featuring a matte black outer casing and a reflective, glossy black glass front. They feature a crisp, silver-white Meeple logo right on the display, and unlike previous MeTag models, it houses a face, making them the only MeTag so far capable of facial expressions and speech. 

And the last one is actually a returning character and had a fair share of being a leader as she for most of III, she was the owner of the Indefinite Island which homes the eliminated contestants. Your third host is Walkie-Talkie! Yep, the bitch is BACK.

As you probably, Walkie-Talkie went from MePhone4’s little communication device and owner of Indefinite Island to the main antagonist back to being good again. This time around, she is one of the three hosts.

And honestly? I think Walkie-Talkie would fit this role surprisingly well. She’s already been in a position of authority before, she knows how the competition works, she knows the contestants, and most importantly, she has absolutely no problem telling someone when they’re being an idiot. 

As for the cast, to fit the five theme, we have 25 contestants competing this season! The roster is mostly made up of returning fan favorites, but to keep things fresh, 5 of them are completely new faces (I haven’t fully fleshed out the newbies' designs or personalities yet, but just know they’re coming to shake up the dynamic). 

And to wrap up the cast, there is also a whole bunch of contestants… but wait a minute, if you look closely, you can see Fanny and Remote from BFDI standing right there in the minor characters tier! Yep, you saw that right.  And you probably be asking, “Mr. TV, why the hell are two Battle for Dream Island characters doing here?”

Well, think of it similarly to how Pencil is currently a minor character in Inanimate Insanity IV. Pencil isn’t competing full time, she is chilling out, appearing in a few scenes, all that good stuff. She shows up with Magnet in “The Future Is Today!”, steals Box’s reservation at Reality Restaurant, pops up in the crowd at MePad Mansion hyped about the competition coming back (even though she never joins it), and later gets roped into helping Go Big or Be Last with their gift to Fan in “Fan the Flames” while treating the whole thing like community service. Same energy here with Fanny and Remote. They’re not here to win whatever the prize is. They’re  just… around. And just like Pencil, there is no BFDI lore added to why or how they are in Inanimate Insanity and it does not affect the BFDI timeline. They’re just existing in the background as non-competing residents of whatever island/setting IIV ends up on.  As for what Fanny and Remote will do in IIV? I would have them be really close friends like in canon and actually appear as a pair throughout the season. They would mostly just hang out in the background, crack some dry comments about the chaos, and occasionally get dragged into minor side plots or challenges as helpers/obstacles. Nothing game-changing, nothing thatmesses with BFDI continuity. Pure “Pencil in II4” energy. Biasism? Absolutely. I wanted my two favourite non-II characters to show up and I’m not even a little bit sorry about it.

Speaking of biasism,  let’s talk about the absolute stars of my concept: Candle and Yin-Yang.

If you know me, you know these two are my absolute top favorites, and in IIV, I am pushing them straight into the spotlight as the main characters.

You know how in III, those two were on The Thinkers together and Candle ended up becoming one of the people who actually helped Yin-Yang communicate and understand each other better? I’m running that back. Let’s be honest, Candle and Yin-Yang in III aren’t really THAT close, but my Yindle shipping ass is going to do something about it… without going straight to making them a couple. I’m going to take Yin-Yang and Candle’s genuine and heartwarming friendship they already have and make them ride or die besties that would pretty much dominate the competition and social dynamics.

Before we go into any further detail about this iconic duo (for those who don’t know, that’s a WWE reference because there was a tag team known as the IIconics), let’s talk about Candle. 

So, Candle is going through a slight character shift in IIV. Not a complete personality overhaul, but something that is really noticeable and something I think would be REALLY fun to watch.  I would like to introduce y’all… to girlboss Candle! 

Candle is still mellow. She still meditates, she still has that whole spiritual wisdom thing going on, and she still has the ability to be the most sane person in the room. But now, she is way more confident, more assertive, more sassy, more willing to stand her ground, and most importantly, she has absolutely ZERO patience for bullshit. She is tired of constantly having to be the voice of reason and is now taking matters into her own hands. She’s turned into a total baddie, and honestly? Good for her. 

Speaking of change, Yin-Yang also underwent some serious growth. You know how Yin-Yang skipped out on competing in II IV to most likely focus on himself, embrace his dual nature, and get his internal life together? Turns out that break was a total, resounding success because Yin actually ended up changing Yang. Don’t get it twisted: Yang is still the same loud, chaos-obsessed goblin we all know and love, but he’s significantly cooler and way more chill about it now. Instead of being a goblin all the time, he’d be a bit more laid-back and instead of instantly resorting to mindless violence or screaming at the top of his lungs, Yang now channels that chaotic energy into sarcastic remarks, petty sabotage, and being a genuinely supportive (if slightly unhinged) ride-or-die for Candle and Yin. 

And oh, you know how in II2 episode 3, Yin and Yang drunk Test Tube’s Experiment 626 and got split into two separate beings? Yeah, we're doing that again. Except this time, it's happening halfway through the season.

And unlike II2, where the separation was basically a disaster because Yang immediately became a fucking menace to society while Yin slowly realised that they actually needed each other, the two actually split for a personal reason: they both genuinely believe they’ve grown enough individually that they can function independently. Although Yin-Yang’s exit interview did establish that they now prefer to be seen as the same person, people can change their minds, and I think this would be a really interesting way to revisit that whole aspect of their character.

And now, let’s get back to Candle because she will be in the middle of some serious drama. More specifically, I have some good and bad news for all the Silvercandle shippers.

The good news is that Candle and Silver Spoon do interact again. But the bad news is that… it’s going to be like Invitational all over again.

In III, Candle and Silver Spoon's relationship went through one of the biggest rollercoasters in the entire season. They went from being incredibly close, to having their friendship fall apart because Silver Spoon was being, well, Silver Spoon, to eventually making amends by the end of the season. By the finale, they were back on good terms. Silver Spoon decides to not compete in the following season to focus on himself, but while we don’t know if  Silver Spoon is actually change in canon (and knowing AnimationEpic, I could absolutely see him coming back as a different person), HE HASN’T CHANGED A SINGLE FUCKING THING!

That’s right, folks. All that soul-searching? All that talk about self-improvement? Total facade. Silver Spoon is back, and he is just as pompous, self-absorbed, and insufferable as ever. And Candle, just like most people, is not surprised AT ALL. She kinda knew Silver Spoon was full of it from day one, but she gave him the benefit of the doubt anyway because of their history. Big mistake. HUGE mistake. However, Candle isn’t the same person she was in Invitational. She’s done taking the high road, and she’s sure as hell done acting as his personal therapist and punching bag. So the first move of this new girlboss Candle? She plays along.

She pretends that everything is completely fine, acting like they’re right back to being besties. Silver Spoon, being the naive, ego-driven aristocrat that he is, falls for it hook, line, and sinker. He genuinely thinks he’s got his right-hand woman back to cater to his every whim. But behind the scenes, Candle is quietly plotting with Yin-Yang to finally put an end to his nonsense.

In one of the very first episodes, Candle stabs him in the back, and if you expecting it to be just a few words and her walking away, oh no. She completely blindsides him physically after the challenge, where she beats the absolute brakes off him, alongside Yin- Yang (well, the Yang part of him) joining in on the beatdown. After like 1-2 minutes (which is a reasonable amount of time without making it too long or even take up half the episode), Silver Spoon is left lying flat on his face, bruised, battered, and utterly humiliated while Candle and Yin-Yang walk away like they just finished a casual stroll in the park, leaving everyone in shock.

In the next episode, a pissed off Silver Spoon confronts her, expecting her to explain her actions and boy, did Candle go OFF. She roasts Silver Spoon in front of basically everyone, finally unloading every single bit of frustration she has been holding onto since Invitational. She told him how she is sick and tired of nonsense. Sick and tired of his ego. Sick and tired of herself getting treated as his emotional support witch whenever he needs someone to clean up his messes. Sick and tired of him acting like being “regal” gives him a free pass to be a complete and utter jerk to everybody around him. Silver Spoon told Candle that she has changed, which caused Candle to chuckle and say something like “No crap, Sherlock. I have changed. That is the entire point. I realised that if you wanna make it far in life, you gotta woman up and do what needs to be done instead of always being the sane and mellow peacekeeper. If that makes me the bad guy in your eyes? So be it. But let me remind you that there’s a difference between being the bad guy and just being tired!” 

Silver Spoon is left standing there, or rather, hovering awkwardly, completely speechless for the first time in his life, while Candle just casually adjusts her flame, turns on her heel, and walks away with Yin-Yang right beside her, Yang letting out a hysterical, victorious cackle. Silver Spoon didn’t throw a tantrum or scream, he just stands there fuming, and that my friends, is where the bridge between them is burned forever. No redemption, no tears, no dramatic reconciliation. Just a bitter, burning hatred that sets off one of the biggest rivalries the show has ever seen.

For the rest of the season, Silver Spoon makes it his personal life mission to ruin Candle’s life and also destroy her alliance with Yin-Yang. The rivalry wouldn’t just be “two people who don’t like each other.” It would have a lot of internal arguments, a bit of psychological warfare, sabotaging, maybe even throw in a few physical altercations here and there that is not just “a ball of dust with random limbs poking out." No, we're talking about full-on John Wick choreography or even WWE-style beatdowns. This rivalry would be so intense that it basically becomes it own subplot, weaving its way through the entire competition and forcing the other contestants to constantly take sides or duck for cover whenever Candle and Silver Spoon end up in the same room. And the ending? After all that, you wouldn’t be expecting Candle to forgive him at the final stretch, right? Hell no! In the ending, this is where Candle completely has and demands Sliver Spoon to be out of her life once and for all, telling him to never, EVER speak to her again. In the end, Candle ends up being the big person and cuts Silver Spoon off, 

And look, I know what some of you are thinking. “That would be SO out of character for Candle. She would NEVER resort to violence or betray Silver Spoon like that!” And normally, I’d agree, but let me ask you something, do you want Candle to be a one noted character? Do you want Candle to just be the eternally calm, spiritually enlightened girl who meditates, gives everyone life advice, and then walks away whenever shit hits the fan? Nah! 

And I made it very clear that Candle isn’t becoming a completely different character. She’s still Candle. She’s still the mellow, spiritual, level-headed girl we all know and love. She still meditates, she still gives genuinely good advice, and she still has that ability to walk into the middle of a complete disaster and somehow be the only person with a functioning brain cell. It’s just that her assertiveness, her willingness to actually do something about a problem have been turned way the hell up. And it’s not like Candle has only been the “calm one” anyway. She also has been manipulative, stubborn, self-serving, and at one point did throw hands with Silver Spoon. Y’all don’t remember A Jury of Your Fears? She put belt to the Unvitational Committee’s asses before getting into a fight (and also knocked out) by… yep, you guessed it: Silver Spoon.

So what I’m trying to do is take the parts of Candle’s personality that already exist, crank up the assertiveness and confidence, and take the parts that we don’t normally associate Candle with and make it more prominent…. except for mostly the manipulative side of her personality because we are not trying to make her a villain. She’s more like… an anti-hero if you know what I mean. She's still fundamentally a good person, but she now knows how to play the game, set boundaries, and protect her peace, even if it means doing the necessary evil to do so.  

At the end of the day, Inanimate Insanity Vulture is just my dream season, born out of pure biasism and a desire for another Invitational-like season. Not all season concepts or concepts in general need to be 100% realistic or fit perfectly into canon, sometimes you just want to sit down, cook up an absolute fever dream of a season, andsee what sticks to the wall.

Is it totally biased toward my top two favorites? 100%. Do I want to see my least favourite character’s downfall? Absolutely. Did I pick Fanny and Remote to be minor characters just because they’re my two favourite BFDI characters? You bet your ass I did! And is Invitational and TPOT my two favorite object show seasons of all time? Without a single doubt. And the best part? I do not  care at all, because at the end of the day, this isn’t some serious pitch (though it would be awesome if AnimationEpic actually made something like this, not gonna lie). It’s just me, Mr. TV, throwing wild ideas into the ether and having fun with the universe. 

So what do y’all think of my concept? Would you turn into Inanimate Insanity Vulture, or would you throw your remote at the TV in sheer disbelief? Would you actually like to see this version of Candle, or would you rather she stay in her peaceful meditation corner forever? Let me know your thoughts down in the comments below! I’m genuinely curious to read what the rest of the subreddit thinks. 

Thank you for reading my concept post! Until next time, this is Mr. TV signing off.

u/BigTennis4580 — 7 days ago
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Hot take: Inanimate Insanity Invitational is my favourite II season and it’s CRIMINALLY underrated!

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. Today, I wanna talk about my personal favourite season of II that is really slept on and should be more loved. At this point, we can say that almost everyone’s favourite II season is Season 2. And I mean, I get it, it is so iconic with its musical numbers and deep lore. But honestly? My absolute favourite has to be Season 3, aka Inanimate Insanity Invitational. 

If you know me from my main sub aka r/BattleForDreamIsland, you probably know that I glaze TPOT a lot and that season is nowhere compared to II3 when it comes to being laid-back and intended to be fun (I mean, early TPOT was kinda like that, but you know how dark and plot-driven it gets later on). So honestly, it’s a bit surprising even to me that I love II3 so much, since I usually eat up the darker, heavy lore stuff.

But man, I just really vibed with the lighter atmosphere it had going on. It was honestly just incredibly enjoyable to sit back, relax, and watch chaos unfold. Not only that, most of the arcs and challenges they had going on was some of the most entertaining and engaging stuff we’ve ever gotten out of the series. It’s one of those seasons where you don’t really need a detailed explanation of why you love it.

Now, if you have been following me, you’d probably be like ‘you never liked post-hiatus BFDIA. II3 was also a lighthearted season, you fraud!” First of all, rude! And secondly, I just find post-hiatus BFDIA incredibly overrated and boring. I had mentioned that multiple times in my previous posts on r/BattleForDreamIsland! You don’t have to like every season of a category just because you like a certain season with that vibe. It’s like saying that you are a hypocrite for not liking every dark object show just because you like ONE. I just find II3 way more entertaining and comforting to watch, plain and simple**.**

And speaking of II3, how could I not mention my GOAT Candle? In case you forgotten, Candle literally made her debut in this season! Not only is she easily my absolute favourite character in the entire series, but her arc with Silver Spoon was unironically the best part of the season, and honestly, arguably the best arc in the whole show. There is something about her that I can’t help but love, her serene, meditative vibe mixed with her sneaky strategic side was just top-tier.

I mentioned Candle and Silver Spoon’s dynamic in a few posts already. I even mentioned how the dynamic feels so toxic in practice (#FreeCandle) yet it was easily one of the most compelling and peak dynamics in the whole show. They went from enemies to best friends to enemies again back to best friends in one season and it was so fun to watch unfold, man. Like, even with Silver Spoon's massive ego constantly causing chaos, their back-and-forth banter and genuine development carried so much of the season's momentum.

However, as much as I loved watching that dynamic, Candle deserves better and should honestly leave him in the dirt. No shade, but I do prefer her friendship with Yin-Yang every day of the week. I mean, after all, Yindle is my OTP for a reason! Watching Candle balance out Yin-Yang’s chaotic energy was just so genuine and wholesome, especially compared to Silver Spoon’s constant ego trips. 

At the end of the day, II Invitational just hits different. You don’t always need a dark, high-stakes, lore-heavy narrative like TPOT to make an object show season peak. Sometimes, all you need is a solid cast, great character chemistry, hilarious challenges, and a cozy, laid-back vibe you can just throw on and enjoy (and no, I’m not looking at you, post-hiatus BFDIA. You may have the glaze, but to me, it ain’t it, twin) 

Anyway, that’s pretty much my quick thoughts on why II Invitational deserves way more love than it gets. I know, this isn’t my usual 10-paragraph yap session, but I felt like II3 really needed its flowers for once. It’s an absolute comfort season through and through, and fun fact, I actually thought II3 was well-loved, but all of people put both II1 and II2 above II3. So you’re telling me that II3 is just above the okay season that is the current season aka IIV and below II1? I mean, okay, II1 is iconic mostly because it’s the first season and it was a good one too, but in my opinion, the top 2 has got to be II2 and II3, no questions asked!

At the end of the day, II Invitational is just peak comfort entertainment. It gave us top-tier character interactions, iconic debuts, hilarious challenges, and a chill vibe that’s so easy to rewatch anytime. 

Anyway, what do you guys think? Do you agree that II Invitational deserves way more love? Drop your thoughts down below. And before I end this post, may I ask one thing… can we get more Yindle interactions in season 4? I mean, Yin-Yang is not currently in the competition, but a few interactions in future episodes/shorts wouldn’t cause any harm. Heck, have Candle stab Silver Spoon in the back and leave him for Yin-Yang! That would unironically be peak television, no cap!

Anyway, I’m gonna end it here before I accidentally turn this into another full-on yap session after all. Take care mates, stay safe, and I’ll see you guys in the comments! Peace out!

u/BigTennis4580 — 8 days ago
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Loser: An Appreciation Post for My Former Least Favourite BFDI Character

G’day mates, it’s Mr. TV here. Yep, as you can read from the title, today, I’m giving Loser his deserved flowers, because honestly? It’s long overdue.

 

If you remember my old posts from 2024 and early 2025, you probably saw me ragging on Loser at every single opportunity. Back then, if you asked me who my absolute least favorite contestant in the entire show was, Loser wasn’t just sitting in F-tier, he was buried ten feet under the dirt. I harbored a burning hatred for this golden cube, and looking back on it now, he didn’t even deserve any of it.

However, it wasn’t the hatred that was the worst part. It was how completely and utterly I mischaracterised him. Seriously, it borders on unforgivable. If you read my old comments from back then, I made Loser out to be this manipulative, egotistical narcissist who deliberately kept characters like Cake and Clock trapped in his shadow. I genuinely believed he was some toxic mastermind who ruined his teammates, reducing “The Losers!” to a hollow cult of personality. I even had an unhinged headcanon where Loser forced Cake to be his biggest fan and it got so bad that Cake nearly considered retirement by BFB 6. Trust me, I’m cringing as we speak.

And it’s not like I hated him for no reason, either. In fact, by definition, my third favourite character Cake WAS the reason for my hatred towards Loser. You see, back in 2022, Cake was my favourite character in the whole show (and still proudly sits in my top 3 to this day!). Back then, I held a massive grudge because I felt like Loser was completely eating up Cake’s potential. In my eyes, Cake was being reduced to nothing more than Loser’s overly-attached follower, and instead of acknowledging that Cake looked up to him because he’s a genuinely supportive and kind role model, I painted Loser the villain in probably the most unhinged light imaginable.

I mean, I literally convinced myself that Loser was actively leeching off Cake’s character! Every time Cake smiled at Loser, I saw it as "brainwashing." Every time Loser gave Cake a compliment or encouragement, I thought, “Oh look, he’s just manipulating him to keep a loyal pawn." It was pure, unadulterated copium because I was salty about Cake’s lack of individual focus in early BFB, so I used Loser as a scapegoat for all my frustrations.

Then came the callouts. And honestly? Thank goodness for them, because honestly, if it wasn’t for the awesome people on this sub who called me out on my garbage takes, I probably would’ve died on that ridiculous hill.

A few users in the comments section (and you guys know who you are) straight up held a mirror to my posts. They gently (and sometimes not-so-gently) reminded me that literally *nothing* I was claiming about Loser was supported by actual canon. They pointed out that Loser never once belittled Cake, never manipulated him, and in fact did the exact opposite: he went out of his way to praise his teammates, build up his confidence, and encourage him to shine. Being reminded that Loser was genuinely supportive, while I was sitting there treating him like a cartoon villain, was a massive reality check.

And then came TPOT 18 (BFB 31), which is ironically my least favourite BFDI episode for other reasons.

In TPOT 18, we see Loser having a mini-arc of his own where after in his memory sequence, we see him failing to perform in front of a live audience, getting a cold reaction, and watching his fans leave him. Then we see Loser witness events from past episodes including TPOT 17 where Winner is eating those Loser-O’s and getting that little Winner-shaped piece, which symbolises that Loser never forgot them. After that, we see Loser packing his bags and leaving the TV studio to find Winner and try to fix their relationship.  I was like “Wait… am I the dumb one here?” Because here was a guy who I had framed as a total self-absorbed diva, yet when faced with losing his fame and legacy, his immediate, genuine response wasn’t to double down on his ego or throw a tantrum. It was to reflect on the one bond he actually broke.

In TPOT 19, we end up getting the reunion between Loser and Winner, which I didn’t really think much of at first, to be completely honest. I was still clinging on to my old stubbornness and I also thought that reuniting over a piece of cereal is completly juvenile (which I still do. Like you can’t tell me it’s not what a toddler would do to reunite with a friend, right?)

Then TPOT 21 (Insectophobe’s Nightmare 6) hit, and that was the moment everything finally clicked into place for me. Why? Well, I want you to take your attention to one of Winner and Loser’s interactions in that episode, the scene where Loser apologised to Winner for balling on them and Winner cutting him off and saying that they already knew what Loser had wanted. That they could want different things and still be there for each other. That Loser simply meant too much to them to not be in their life. I was like “Wait, Loser never would have done any of that if he was the self-absorbed, manipulative fame-chasing narcissist I’d spent years painting him as,” and that’s when I realised… the only time he was ever egotistical was in post-split,  but even that wasn’t entirely malicious. He was just a misunderstood guy who may of had the fame get into his head back in post-split and let it cloud what actually mattered to him.

When you look back at pre-split BFB with fresh eyes, Loser was this genuine, sweet, humble, respectful celebrity who puts his fans first and never lets his status get to his head. He was always there to uplift everyone on "The Losers!", whether it was praising Pin's leadership, complimenting Eggy, or giving Cake the gentle reassurance he needed when he was feeling timid. He wasn't demanding worship; the show made it clear that everyone naturally gravitated toward him because of his genuine warmth and charm. Post-split may of been a bit of a rough patch for his writing where Loser started to act a bit (and I mean, A BIT) egotistical and began bragging about his fame and popularity, but even then, it wasn’t because he was some terrible person. It’s just that the fame got into his head and that’s actually pretty common for anyone who gets thrust into massive stardom practically overnight. When millions of people are screaming your name and hanging on your every word, it’s easy to get lost in the sauce for a bit. But TPOT proved that deep down, the real Loser never left. His core motivation was never about being idolised; it was about genuine connection. 

Now I still do think Loser has held Cake back from reaching his true potential. That’s something that I’ll mostly die on a hill for. But Loser never intended to overshadow Cake or steal his spotlight out of malice. It was just that everyone pigeonhole Cake as JUST Loser’s biggest fan and nothing more than that, and it actually felt like it for most of Cake’s existence because all we had seen from him up until early TPOT was him fangirling over Loser. So yeah, while I do still think Cake has been held back by Loser, I know that Loser would NEVER intentionally hold him down or treat him as anything less than a friend. Loser genuinely wanted the best for Cake, just like he did for every other member of The Losers. The overshadowing was a byproduct of how the early BFB writers and fanbase handled their dynamic.

Loser currently sits at a comfortable B to A- tier on my tier list now, which is something I honestly never thought I’d say in a million years. And you probably be wondering “where did all that hate go?” Well, I’m proud to say that all that pent-up F-tier hatred has officially been reallocated to Rocky! Yep, I’m smoking on that Rocky pack! Because unlike Rocky, at least Loser has a personality and gets shit done when the story actually calls for it! What does Rocky do? Barf on people for the 500th time while contributing absolutely zero substance to any team, challenge, or plotline. Meanwhile, Loser has actual layers, an iconic voice, complex relationships, genuine agency, and a character arc that spans two seasons.

So this is an appreciation post for everyone’s favourite cube. Loser is a wonderfully written character who kinda is a reflection of how showbiz, parasocial expectations, and personal growth actually work in the real world. He went from a superstar who was placed on an impossible pedestal, to someone who slowly wants out of the fame and live a quiet, genuine life reconnecting with the person who actually mattered to him most: Winner. 

I hope everyone enjoys this long-overdue post, especially u/Auggs-the-Loser-Fan. Auggs, if you are reading this, you were honestly right all along. You stood by this golden cube during the absolute dark ages when half the sub (including my unhinged ass) was endlessly slandering him, and you never wavered. You kept advocating for his nuance, pointing out the subtext in his interactions, and reminding everyone that he was a misunderstood and extremely underrated character. So, Auggs, you are a real one. Thank you for staying patient with my unhinged takes back in 2024 and early 2025, and for constantly standing up for him when it felt like half the sub was trashing on him.

So, heres to Loser! The golden cube himself, and one of the most wrongfully over-hated characters in BFDI history. A character who went from being my absolute number one most hated contestant in the entire show to someone I genuinely respect, admire, and love to root for. May he and his fans keep shining bright, and may Winner and Loser continue to thrive together now that they’ve finally cleared the air.

Until next time, take care mates, stay safe, and I’ll see you in the next post.

u/BigTennis4580 — 9 days ago