
To whoever outbid me, please post a spectrum
LOL! But seriously, when you get it, please post a spectrum. Very curious what's actually in it.

LOL! But seriously, when you get it, please post a spectrum. Very curious what's actually in it.
Safety Notice: Do not attempt, the radon source and the way radon is dispensed in the video includes passive safety aspects not easily discernible from the video. I will post a reply with more details. Do not attempt.
The video depicts the construction of a ZnS(Ag) coated vial - essentially a toy model of a Lucas Cell - which is then inoculated with 3 uCi of radon in air ( based on gamma dose rate assay ). This is about 5x the radon concentration of my prior attempt - and the entire interior of the vial is phosphor coated utilizing all of the alpha particles produced to full effect. This activates the radioluminescent phosphor such that it is faintly visible without darkness adapted vision, and rather amazing when captured with low light photography.
At the end of the video, the radon assay is also performed via dilution and a radon monitor for which a callibration curve is available from testing in an AARST approved STAR chamber. This again produced the frustrating and puzzling 3.3x discrepancy between gamma dose rate and radon concentration measurements. So is it 3 uCi or 10 uCi depending of if you believe physics or if you believe AARST? If it is some gross experimental error on my part, I have yet to discover it.
The Lucas Cell is a radon detection probe constructed of a radioluminescent phosphor lined canister mated to a photomultiplier tube. The tube can either run in current mode for high activity samples or in pulsed mode for decay event counting. In the vial above there is likely > 600,000 scintillations / second. For a typical radon monitor it may be dozens / second or minute at residential levels of radon. This works similarly to the ZnS(Ag) alpha probes used for contamination detection, except the sample is the enclosed air.
If the tube were placed in a light proof box with a photomultiplier, one could attach it to a common geiger counter to measure the radon. As it decays over the next 3 months, the residual will be ²¹⁰Pb in nanocurie quantities. This is easily detected by a well shielded consumer gamma spectrometer. The ²¹⁰Po will continue produce alpha particles for decades, replenished by its parent ²¹⁰Pb. This scintillation may be visible to well adapted eyes.
I deal with radon a lot, but due to some unforeseen medical shenanigans I "obtained" a sample of ⁹⁹Tc*. Since taping a probe to my forehead for a day was not a [ socially acceptable ] option, I collected an, ahem,*renal* sample.
5 cc of an aqueous solution of Tc-99m / Tc-99g bound to soluble proteins was "placed" in a thin wall glass vial. The vial was placed in contact with an RC-110. This produced a laughably high contact reading, even after 2 half lives had elapsed. On monitoring the sample as it decayed, you obtain the count and dose rates over time. This can be used to assess the dead time compensation of a meter as the actual activity is known to diminish in a predictable way. This does not help assess the absolute rate reported, but the relative rate can be evaluated, and hence the linearity of the response over a range of activity.
Since the position of the sample and the probe is constant, this avoids geometric factors inherent in using different distances from a constant source to provide different activity levels as well as things like air kerma and changes in buildup.
The calculated 6.032 hour figure is from the RC-110 provided dose rate, the 6.431 hour figure is from count rate. The expected half life value is 6.006 hours. As with radon decay, the RC-110 was spot on for the calculated half life of Tc-99m when based on dose rate - this suggests very good dead time compensation baked into the dose rate calculation. The count rates appear to be uncooked. So for higher rates, the RC under-reports counts, this has the effect of making half lives appear longer.
While I did RTFM, perhaps I overlooked a easy checkbox for this, ...
But is there a way to get the RC-series devices to report dead time compensated count rates, either in the logs or directly in the phone app graphs, etc.?
RC-110 + latest App on Android. After reconnecting and the app starts updating the charts with missed data, after a few seconds the Chart and Spectrogram ( if enabled ) stops refreshing, the current reading numbers stop updating. Also the Search meters also stop updating. The Spectrum continues to update and displays plausible dose rate and updates total dosage.
This seems to have started after the most recent App update.
Anyone else seeing this or have a folk remedy I might try? I did put in a report via the app.
Exiting and restarting the App several times slowly let's it advance catching up on the chart data, and once it is current things function normally untill a few hours of being disconnected.
A little while ago I noticed a little "blip" when recharging while making long term measurements of a fairly active sample. I caught it in the act this time. It seems to be an instant, abrupt shift when charging completes. The logs shows the count rate and dose rate drop by 5% over the course of a second - so not related to thermal issues. Unfortunately when when starting a charging cycle this time I had to disturb the source / RC so I don't know if charging increased the things by 5% and this is just returning to normal.
Its unclear to me what the "charging ... interrupted" means but basically this is what I always see when charging finishes. And after it finishes, the RC seems to ignore the USB power and the battery will run flat after a week of normal usage - unless I physically unplug and replug in the USB cable. In other words it seems to charge once, and does not seem to run of the external supply. This makes continuous long term measurements more difficult. I'm not sure if this is expected behavior or some argument between the RC and the chargers I use.
It's also unclear if the sensitivity changes with charge level when running off the battery - my sources decay rapidly, so I might not notice. I would need to use a ¹³⁷Cs button and a fixture to see how that plays out.
While this is definitely in the "minor annoyance" category, it might be worth trying to reproduce and address.
I finally got around to cleaning the grime of these. "Someone liked their menthols!" 😬 The Rumrill Radioactive Holstein pattern jug has a cork under the cap, so perhaps it was intended to be a decanter. The twins flanking it are Stangl. I need to do some spectroscopy on the Stangl ones as one is definitely darker and the mold stamp indicates "usa" on the lighter glazed one. So perhaps natural vs depleted uranium.
In a recent thread on thorium mantles reminded me that recently produced thorium should be subject to a near term reduction in activity over the next few years following its production. So the question is: can this be observed in these easily available ion quackery devices which are suspected to contain thorium separated from REE minerals?
The ~2 years half life of ^(228)Th means there should be about a 3% reduction in activity month over month for very "young" thorium, about a 30% reduction year over year. This is likely enough to be observable with most any meter, provided the meter and item are consistently positioned from reading to reading and the number of pulses counted / unit time is high enough to make the confidence interval tighter than that.
From linked article, note this is alpha activity, but conveys the idea.
I'm probably going to start making the fixtures for my ion pen and pendant and start making weekly measurements, but wondering if anyone else has done this and what the result were, and / or would want to? LOL! While pretty much any meter could be used, the repeatability of positioning and the number of pulses measured would be the critical thing to reduce the "noise" - for those with spectrometers, the spectrum should also change over time as ^(232)Th daughters recuperate.
Ideally, one could take a curve of expected activity and the collected curve and see where it fits, which should let us know when the thorium was chemically separated. For unrefined or well aged thorium items, it would expected to be constant, but also the bottom of the trough a few years out from separation.
See https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1120179712002293 and similar for some example activity graphs and the time scale of the changes.
This is more of an intellectual exercise at this point. So no need for "OMG! Neutrons!" One of the issues in constructing (α, n) sources is the alpha source needs to be intimately mixed with the target. I realized I essentially had such a situation with radon adsorbed onto granulated activated carbon. The radon itself and its short term decay chain yield 3 alphas, all of which have the ability for ¹³C(α, n) ¹⁶O reactions, the ²²²Rn decay barely with 5.5 MeV and definitely the Po ones.
My reading of https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10489755, includes the expected neutron yields for natural carbon in the 0.5 ppm realm, would suggest about 4 neutrons / minute / uCi of ²²²Rn + daughters. And with isotopically pure ¹³C, possibly much more. As a practical matter even with "pure" ¹³C, and the maximum amount of radon I could ever conceive of mustering ( about 10 uCi ) that would be about 100 n / sec.
The other part of this is when the energy of the alpha particle > 6 MeV apparently the resulting ¹⁶0 can be left in an excited state and emit a 6 MeV gamma.
My interest is not in intentionally making a neutron source, but rather figuring out how to detect the ones inadvertently created in, probably, every activated carbon based radon sequestration system. Likely the best approach might be looking for the 6 MeV gamma.
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I have noticed that when my RC-110 reaches 100% charge there seems to be a slight change in sensitivity. Or perhaps when it stops charging. The source / RC are in a fixture so relative movement is not possible, so the discontinuity seems to occur when the RC battery charging cycle completes. It could certainly be coincidence, but it's the second or third time I noticed this.
App fails to connect ( or rather "try" to connect ) to device, and also does not prompt to turn on BT when BT is off. Also what I see is a LOT of wifi upload / download activity and sometimes when that stops the app will start to behave properly. When wifi is off but BT is on, it seems to work. Is there some "stuff" it is trying to upload? I do not have map sharing enabled. Bur not sure if that is stored "in the cloud"
But basically makes it useless after months of no issues at all.
I will try to determine if wifi enabled = problem or if that was a fluke.
I got a couple Ludlum 243 well type probes, these include a beefy lead shield - which is why I got then. These are the probes mounted in the shield. Predictably the crystals in them are bad... one sorta works for counting, the other maybe more suitable as a Muon sponge. I'd like to re-use the PMT or perhaps make a plastic scintillator slug to replace the old crustal. Does anyone know how these are assembled? Is it just a naked NaI(Tl) slug or is it a windowed unit? The black bands look like the way, but I don't want to just bust it open.