u/Bos_HD

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Problem

My friend and I started around half a year ago with warhammer and about 3 months ago we started palying on tts because of the ease if use and testing composutiins ect. The problem is, that since we started he quit frankly has lost 90% of the matches by turn 3 or even 2.

His main army is Imperial Knights, while mine is T'au. We tried lots of diffrent things.

We changed to UKTC terrain layouts, he started using a webcam because the dice roller seemed rigged and more. All plays he makes are the ones I would make in his shoes so it's not a problem with unholy misplays.

So now i'm starting to wonder if it's my fault with my lists and if i'm way to competitive. But this happens with lots if diffrent armies i tried like Deathguard, Admech, Nekrons, Votann, Aeldari, Custodes, Orks. The only matchuos i end up losing is when i'm playing armies with low pen, melee focused and next to bad anti tank like gray knights, tyrannids, Nurgle Deamons and genestealer.

What could be something that we are doing wrong, so that he loses so drastically.

For example for the last 3 games I played against him with Tau i killed 2 big knights by turn 2 and was ahead by 20 points.

I literally killed an Crusade with the twin lances alone last game (with damage to spare).

As for his lists he's using all the knights, but especially the Crusader with most lists having 2, low to no armigers and no agents. He's tried ALL Knights detachments with diffrent lists and after every match we have an intense session talking about what went wrong, how each knight performet and what to keep in mind for the next game for him.

The same happens when he plays Salamenders or Astra Millitarum so it's not only with Knights.

With that I'm gonna post my current Tau lists I've been playing for the last few games, where there was constant changes between them to make them "more balanced" or atleast that was what u hoped for.

Starting with my Montka list:

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - T'au Empire

+ DETACHMENT: Mont'ka (Killing Blow)

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

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+ WARLORD: Char1: The Twin Lance

+ ENHANCEMENT: Strike Swiftly (on Char2: Kroot War Shaper)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 16

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (7x2) + (1x4) + (1x6) - Assassination: 2 Characters

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CHARACTER

Kroot War Shaper (75 pts)

• 1x Kroot pistol

• 1x Shaper's blade

• 1x Dart-bow and tri-blade

• Strike Swiftly (+25 pts)

The Twin Lance (185 pts)

• 1x Ri'Lantar

• 1x Fusion eliminator

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• 1x Shardstorm burst system

• 1x XV pulse pistol

• MV15 Gun Drone

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• 1x Ri'Locai

• 1x Ion scattercannon

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• 1x Shardstorm burst system

• 1x XV pulse pistol

• MV15 Gun Drone

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• Warlord

OTHER DATASHEETS

Broadside Battlesuits (270 pts)

• 1x Broadside Shas’vre

• 1x Crushing bulk

• 1x High-yield missile pods

• 1x Twin smart missile system

• 2x Missile Drone, Weapon support system

• 2x Broadside Shas’ui

• 2x Crushing bulk

• 2x High-yield missile pods

• 2x Twin smart missile system

• 4x Missile Drone, 2x Weapon support system

Broadside Battlesuits (80 pts)

• 1x Broadside Shas’vre

• 1x Crushing bulk

• 1x Heavy rail rifle

• 1x Seeker missile

• 2x Missile Drone, Weapon support system

Ghostkeel Battlesuit (160 pts)

• 1x Ghostkeel fists

• 1x Cyclic ion raker

• 1x Twin fusion blaster

• Battlesuit support system

Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)

• 1x Long-quill

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Kroot pistol

• 1x Kroot carbine

• 1x Kroot Carnivore

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Tanglebomb launcher

• 8x Kroot Carnivores

• 8x Close combat weapon

• 8x Kroot rifle

Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)

• 1x Long-quill

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Kroot pistol

• 1x Kroot carbine

• 1x Kroot Carnivore

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Tanglebomb launcher

• 8x Kroot Carnivores

• 8x Close combat weapon

• 8x Kroot rifle

Pathfinder Team (90 pts)

• 1x Pathfinder Shas'ui

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Pulse carbine

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Semi-automatic grenade launcher

• Marker Drone, Grav-inhibitor drone

• 9x Pathfinders

• 9x Close combat weapon

• 6x Pulse carbine

• 9x Pulse pistol

• 3x Ion rifle

Pathfinder Team (90 pts)

• 1x Pathfinder Shas'ui

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Pulse carbine

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Semi-automatic grenade launcher

• Marker Drone, Grav-inhibitor drone

• 9x Pathfinders

• 9x Close combat weapon

• 6x Pulse carbine

• 9x Pulse pistol

• 3x Ion rifle

Piranhas (60 pts)

• 1x Piranhas

• 1x Armoured hull

• 2x Twin pulse carbine

• 1x Piranha fusion blaster

• 2x Seeker missile

Piranhas (60 pts)

• 1x Piranhas

• 1x Armoured hull

• 2x Twin pulse carbine

• 1x Piranha fusion blaster

• 2x Seeker missile

Riptide Battlesuit (200 pts)

• 1x Riptide fists

• 1x Ion accelerator

• 2x Missile pod

• 1x Twin smart missile system

Riptide Battlesuit (200 pts)

• 1x Riptide fists

• 1x Ion accelerator

• 2x Missile pod

• 1x Twin smart missile system

Riptide Battlesuit (200 pts)

• 1x Riptide fists

• 1x Ion accelerator

• 2x Missile pod

• 1x Twin smart missile system

Stealth Battlesuits (100 pts)

• 1x Stealth Shas'vre

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Fusion blaster

• Homing beacon, Gun Drone, Marker Drone

• 4x Stealth Shas'ui

• 4x Battlesuit fists

• 3x Burst cannon

• 1x Fusion blaster

Stealth Battlesuits (100 pts)

• 1x Stealth Shas'vre

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Fusion blaster

• Homing beacon, Gun Drone, Marker Drone

• 4x Stealth Shas'ui

• 4x Battlesuit fists

• 3x Burst cannon

• 1x Fusion blaster

Next is my Ret cad list:

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - T'au Empire

+ DETACHMENT: Retaliation Cadre (Bonded Heroes)

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

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+ WARLORD: Char2: The Twin Lance

+ ENHANCEMENT: Starflare Ignition System (on Char4: Commander in Enforcer Battlesuit)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 18

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (9x2) + (4x4) - Assassination: 4 Characters

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CHARACTER

Commander Farsight (85 pts)

• 1x Dawn Blade

• 1x High-intensity plasma rifle

Commander in Coldstar Battlesuit (95 pts)

• 1x Cyclic ion blaster

• 3x Fusion blaster

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 2x Shield Drone

Commander in Enforcer Battlesuit (100 pts)

• 1x Cyclic ion blaster

• 3x Missile pod

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 2x Shield Drone

• Starflare Ignition System (+20 pts)

The Twin Lance (185 pts)

• 1x Ri'Lantar

• 1x Fusion eliminator

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• 1x Shardstorm burst system

• 1x XV pulse pistol

• MV15 Gun Drone

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• 1x Ri'Locai

• 1x Ion scattercannon

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• 1x Shardstorm burst system

• 1x XV pulse pistol

• MV15 Gun Drone

• 1x Twin pulse blaster

• Warlord

OTHER DATASHEETS

Broadside Battlesuits (80 pts)

• 1x Broadside Shas’vre

• 1x Crushing bulk

• 1x Heavy rail rifle

• 1x Seeker missile

• 2x Missile Drone, Weapon support system

Crisis Fireknife Battlesuits (120 pts)

• 1x Crisis Fireknife Shas’vre

• 2x Missile pod

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• Marker Drone, Shield Drone

• 2x Crisis Fireknife Shas’ui

• 2x Battlesuit fists

• 4x Missile pod

• 2x Gun Drone, 2x Shield Drone

Crisis Starscythe Battlesuits (110 pts)

• 1x Crisis Starscythe Shas’vre

• 2x T'au flamer

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• Marker Drone, Shield Drone

• 2x Crisis Starscythe Shas’ui

• 4x T'au flamer

• 2x Battlesuit fists

• 2x Gun Drone, 2x Shield Drone

Crisis Sunforge Battlesuits (140 pts)

• 1x Crisis Sunforge Shas’vre

• 2x Fusion blaster

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• Marker Drone, Shield Drone

• 2x Crisis Sunforge Shas’ui

• 2x Battlesuit fists

• 4x Fusion blaster

• 2x Gun Drone, 2x Shield Drone

Ghostkeel Battlesuit (160 pts)

• 1x Ghostkeel fists

• 1x Cyclic ion raker

• 1x Twin fusion blaster

• Battlesuit support system

Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)

• 1x Long-quill

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Kroot pistol

• 1x Kroot carbine

• 1x Kroot Carnivore

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Tanglebomb launcher

• 8x Kroot Carnivores

• 8x Close combat weapon

• 8x Kroot rifle

Kroot Hounds (40 pts)

• 5x Kroot Hounds

• 5x Ripping fangs

Piranhas (60 pts)

• 1x Piranhas

• 1x Armoured hull

• 2x Twin pulse carbine

• 1x Piranha fusion blaster

• 2x Seeker missile

Piranhas (60 pts)

• 1x Piranhas

• 1x Armoured hull

• 2x Twin pulse carbine

• 1x Piranha fusion blaster

• 2x Seeker missile

Riptide Battlesuit (200 pts)

• 1x Riptide fists

• 1x Ion accelerator

• 2x Missile pod

• 1x Twin smart missile system

Riptide Battlesuit (200 pts)

• 1x Riptide fists

• 1x Ion accelerator

• 2x Missile pod

• 1x Twin smart missile system

Stealth Battlesuits (100 pts)

• 1x Stealth Shas'vre

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Fusion blaster

• Homing beacon, Gun Drone, Marker Drone

• 4x Stealth Shas'ui

• 4x Battlesuit fists

• 3x Burst cannon

• 1x Fusion blaster

Stealth Battlesuits (100 pts)

• 1x Stealth Shas'vre

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Fusion blaster

• Homing beacon, Gun Drone, Marker Drone

• 4x Stealth Shas'ui

• 4x Battlesuit fists

• 3x Burst cannon

• 1x Fusion blaster

Stealth Battlesuits (100 pts)

• 1x Stealth Shas'vre

• 1x Battlesuit fists

• 1x Pulse pistol

• 1x Fusion blaster

• Homing beacon, Gun Drone, Marker Drone

• 4x Stealth Shas'ui

• 4x Battlesuit fists

• 3x Burst cannon

• 1x Fusion blaster

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