u/CarefulExchange9410

Removed from r/LeavingNeverlandHBO without reason: Did MJ intentionally overdose to guilt trip his “betrayers”?

Removed from r/LeavingNeverlandHBO without reason: Did MJ intentionally overdose to guilt trip his “betrayers”?

We now know from the Cascio interviews that Aldo Cascio finally put his foot down and rejected MJ‘s advances just days before MJ’s death.

This has made me wonder if these events were related. Did MJ intentionally overdose (either with the intention of dying, or in hopes of being revived and ending up in the hospital, causing a media circus) as a way of guilt tripping his “betrayers”?

Here is why I think so:

  • In the music videos for Is This Scary? (1993, scrapped due to the Chandler allegation) and Ghosts (1996), Michael basically kills himself in front of the children when their parents tell him they don’t want him hanging out with their kids anymore. In both videos, the kids revive Michael by putting his shattered pieces back together.
  • Michael also manipulated his victims by telling them over and over again that he would die if anyone found out what happened.
  • Jordy Chandler said that if he ever told Michael that he didn’t like a particular sex act that Michael would break down in tears and guilt trip him. Michael would say that his actions were normal and that other boys like Brett Barnes did them, so they must love him more.
  • Michael had no problem with faking being a victim of police brutality in order to gain sympathy in the media.
  • Michael also just generally fed stories to the media to make himself look eccentric, frail, wounded, etc. He cultivated an extremely soft-spoken and vulnerable image both publicly and privately that made people in his life walk on eggshells around him to avoid upsetting him.
  • Michael said in an interview that he would slit his wrists if he ever hurt a child, and also said (either in an interview or a phone call/recording) that if there were no children left, he would kill himself.

Finally, here is the description of how his dea unfolded according to his doctor who was there:

>Jackson had long suffered from insomnia, and had a history of using drugs in an attempt to help him sleep.^([14]) Jackson's personal physician, Conrad Murray, was present to help Jackson sleep and gave him various drugs including diazepamlorazepam, and midazolamwhile monitoring him by his bedside. After several hours and several drug injections, Jackson was still unable to fall asleep, and, according to Murray, was repeatedly asking him for "milk", a nickname for the powerful surgical general anesthetic propofol, which Jackson had used in the past as a sleep aid. At 10:40 a.m., with Jackson still not asleep, Murray relented to his requests and injected him with 25 milligrams of propofol diluted with lidocaine. With Jackson finally asleep, Murray testified that he left his bedside to go to the bathroom, and after returning two minutes later, discovered that Jackson was not breathing and had a weak pulse

>Murray controversially did not call 911; he said that he was hindered because there was no landline telephone in the house and because he did not know the house's exact address.^([20])^([21]) It was later discovered that in the hour after discovering Jackson not breathing, Murray made several private calls on his cell phone that he did not inform law enforcement about.^([13]) A security guard eventually called 911 at 12:21 p.m., nearly an hour and a half after Jackson was first discovered not breathing. Paramedics reached Jackson at 12:26 p.m. and found that he was not breathing and had no pulse.

Summary: Michael had used drugs to sleep in the past while being monitored, seemingly without any problems. This time, Michael repeatedly requested propofol, despite his doctor discouraging it. After many hours of these requests, the doctor relents and gives him propofol. He steps out of the room for 2 minutes and Michael has overdosed, but is still alive. At this point, if he had called 911, Michael would most likely have been revived, and his near death and hospitalization would have made headlines. However, the doctor, for whatever reasons (possibly even by Michael’s request, if this was an assisted suicide) did not call 911 for an hour and a half, and as a result, Michael was already dead when paramedics arrived.

My conclusion: I absolutely think Michael would be the type of person to attempt suicide (maybe not even a genuine attempt) to make others feel guilty and to get sympathy. The fact that he died by overdose meant that there was a better chance of him being found vs other methods, especially with how many staff were around at any given time.

Thoughts?

u/CarefulExchange9410 — 9 days ago