u/Centaur_Warchief123

My thoughts on how feminism is especially damaging to leftist men

I wanted to create a post about this after seeing more and more posts, reels and comments etc., like the ones i will give excerpts of. This is not the only or the first one i have seen, especially in leftist spaces that is supportive of feminism and filled with male feminist ''allies''. I apologize if my English or the post's structure isnt good. Some excerpts from these kinds of posts:

Title of Post: ''I am not comfortable with the concept of being male anymore''

-''As the title infers, I'm not comfortable with being male and the fact that other men cause such immense suffrage to women and other men. I am completely fine with my gender identity, but I don't like the fact that most violent crimes against both women and men are committed by men. Reading the news or posts on social media about crime against women occasionally makes me feel like I am only one bad day from doing something unspeakable (which of course isn't true but it feels as such).''

This is from a feminist woman, posted in a feminist subreddit:

-''My partner is leftist, thoughtful, non-violent and genuinely engaged with egalitarianism. Yet he internalises this kind of rhetoric to the point where it affects our relationship. For example he becomes afraid he’s harming me just by needing emotional support or even considers breaking up pre-emptively because he thinks I’d be better off without a man.

He reads studies about gender differences (for example how married men tend to sleep better next to a partner while married women report worse sleep quality) and then encounters highly generalised online discourse on feminist platforms. All of that collapses into a sense of personal failure tied purely to his gender.''

These are just two examples of men thinking there is something wrong with them because of the constant stream of dehumanization against men. Feminist discourse and with it hateful misandry have completely overtaken leftist spaces for decades now, and last few years its becoming even worse, from feminists cheering on male suicides to more and more people voicing misandrist thoughts like putting all men in jail or simply killing all men and boys. I think it is safe to say that for all intents and purposes, feminism is a hate ideology, though one thing i wanna especially talk about in this post is how it affects leftist men more than any other group of men.

The main thing i think is just how hostile leftist, especially feminist, places are towards men. I see many different posts on instagram and twitter and the difference is extremely big, while every single leftist post that includes gender is filled with feminists raving about how all men are pigs and rapists, the right wing stuff i see have a lot of content centered around both men and women united on things like parenthood etc, like i have seen multiple reels filled with right wing women praising men for being protectors, providers and expressing respect to them while i have literally never seen a completely wholesome post about men from left wing spaces. Every single post that has a hint of positivity for men is either centered around ''healthy masculinity'' (which is just repackaged traditional male gender norms) or just male dehumanization. Any women who say good things about men or defend men is named ''pick me''. Other imporant thing is the differences between male third spaces, where a non-left wing male third spaces will be male-only places where they can relax and socialize, a lot of leftist male spaces are just constant policing, lectures about ''positive masculinity'' or how they need to do better because feminists are disappointed with them.

The second most imporant thing i think is view on feminism and feminist women. A lot of leftists have favorable views on feminism, definitely overwhelming majority, I personally dislike feminists and feminism and think that anyone that support it is morally bankrupt. This dislike naturally results in me not internalizing or caring about a lot of things feminists say on a daily basis, this is also true for right wingers who thinks feminists are some blue hair screeching women. If you know that scene of boondocks where bunch of KKK guys light a cross in front of Mister's house and he simply goes ''Goddamn'' and takes a bucket of water to douse it, when i see misandrist and hateful posts about psychotic feminist women i simply go ''Damn'' and scroll, because who gives a shit those cultists think? Definitely not me, i automatically think less of anyone that is a feminist. But a lot of leftist men are friends or even partners with feminist women and are feminist ''allies'' themselves, this results in them actually putting value on the bigoted and sexist rants of feminist women. For example, if one day a nazi came up to you and started raving about how you were a subhuman, would you care? No, why would you, the guy is a nazi and everything he says is simply worthless. Except, what if its your female friends from college that commented ''Why is it so low?'' on a post about male suicide numbers, even though you shared with them your experiences of how badly you were affected when your cousin killed himself when you were in middle school? Or if you learnt that your female professor that you respect so much wrote an entire paper discussing SA rates and have multiple comments in it about how all men were rapist pigs and every man was automatically evil? For right wing men, random feminists raving about men are just weirdos online that they make fun of with other right wingers. For left wing men, those women are their wives, sisters, mothers, daughters or girlfriends that are saying those genuinely horrifying things with no thoughts spared to them.

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u/Centaur_Warchief123 — 5 days ago