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I (M 25) have been taking 7-OH for 3 months now. I have been taking kratom on and off for about 8 years now, so I did not research 7-OH enough before getting into it.

I am currently taking about 300mg a day now. In the past, I have had mild issues getting off of Kratom, but overall have been successful in going cold turkey with it. This stuff is obviously so much stronger though, and it’s posing much more of a problem for me.

I take a dose of 50mg-100mg at a time, waiting anywhere from 4-8 hours between doses. Once I hit 12 hours though, it’s game over. Insane anxiety spikes and body aches that make using and bending my fingers even a painful and difficult thing to do.

I used to have a dead end job where it was doable to be taking this much 7-OH during the day, as long as I am constantly drinking caffeine. However, I just got an amazing new job that starts here in 2 weeks, and it is not going to be possible for me to be on this substance whatsoever while starting this new career.

I’m honestly a bit worried. I have tried to start a taper multiple times and switched to just Kratom to stave off the bad withdrawal symptoms, and both of these methods have not worked. My dependency for the physical and emotional withdrawal symptoms just keep progressing.

I really don’t want to do a 3 day or a week detox at an institution, but will do that if I have to. I’m really just looking for any advice or methods to try to get off this stuff within the next two weeks. I can’t afford it, it’s not sustainable for my relationship with my girlfriend with the mood swings, and I can’t keep drinking all this caffeine every day to keep me awake while drifting off from taking too much of this stuff.

Any advice or stories of personal experiences with getting off this terrible substance would be much appreciated! I’m very willing to be honest with myself through this and do whatever it takes to get to where I need to be.

My girlfriend and I both took shrooms together for the first time last night on Tuesday night (2 grams each) to test them out and have a chill night in. We experienced some visuals and euphoria(mostly after smoking) and had some good conversation, but it was overall a very manageable trip while we smoked a few joints throughout it as well.

We wanted to trip again this weekend on Saturday during the day, because it’ll be the last time our schedules line up for a while to do a day trip together. Now that we have tested this batch of shrooms on ourselves and seen how strong they are, we wanted this trip on Saturday to be a bit more intense - maybe around what you would consider a trip with 3.5-4 grams to usually feel like.

How much should we take after only waiting 4 days with the increased tolerance? Will we still be able to experience all the same effects as if we waited 1-2 weeks to trip again?

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