u/CheddarCheese390

Hot Take - This England "era" will be seen as the biggest flop in 20ish years time

This england team should be winning things, look at our attack. And not next tourney, this version of Kane will be our '22 Messi and such

Similarly, Bellingham is still young, Saka and Rice are arguably in their best form, Palmer Rogers MGW ETC are class, and our defence is consistently good

We've went from finals pseudo consistently, to hiring Tuchel. This is arguably the time

But here's my main 2 thoughts. First is we'll look at this^ quality and see players not replicating and fail them. Messi until 2021 Copa America, but ours will be Foden and TAA. I do believe these 2 will be 2 of the best english players of the recent decade, who just won't work at England (Scholes esque). City and Madrid will bounce back, they'll do work and we'll see them great. England aren't setting up to thrive off players like these, and it's gonna show (especially with Trent. WTF are we thinking, he pings ball arguably better than Becks) In 2030 or such (32?), when this gens rolled its course, that'll be seen as this eras failure.

Because Rio and Downman, plus any future, will most likely not be English. In a mixture of (recent) history, and the Tuchel appointment, we won't grab them now, and will lose one or both. Just for reference, England could have been going to this WC with an attacking 4 of Haaland-Musiala-Bellingham-Olise, but we didn't try when we could. Olise is more annoying (imo), because he was at Reading when he was marked by a few people (I recall someone saying "get him in now"). Tuchel was brought in to win, so he isn't gonna be looking to grab one or both for a 5 min cameo to guarantee them for future, and that'll be the main mark on this current England. I'll call it now, we're getting knocked out by one or both of these in 2032 Euros

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u/CheddarCheese390 — 9 days ago