u/DaddyJabob

I just connected the dots, I think.

I often think about SIBO and how often the root cause is an underlying a motility issue.

I often think of DaDa462‘s immense success by just using ginger and artichoke.

I often think of my own success at using 7pm-11am fasting window followed by 11am-7pm eating window, without as much regard, even, for what I was eating. At least, this cut down the symptoms of upper GI bloating / breathing pressure.

Maybe it’s obvious but: Intermittent fasting extends/should extend your MMC window, in other words how many times your MMC gets to sweep bacteria out.

Let’s interact with that idea. Also, does anybody know if DaDa462’s approach INCLUDED intermittent fasting? I haven’t found anything to confirm that.

General poll / question: Who has dealt with the symptom of Shortness of Breath / Breathing Pressure in relationship to SIBO, etc?

For me personally, I’ve almost never dealt with pain associated with SIBO. I hear there can be debilitating pain. For me personally, abdominal pain hasn’t characterized me so much as pressure in the upper abdomen area. This pressure, we checked out. We did heart, lung, etc tests, and doctors concluded I was one of the healthiest patients they’ve seen (no issues). The conclusion was that the bloating / air pressure simply pushes up on the diaphragm and causes the subjective inability to take a full breath. In fact, when it was at its worst years ago, even did O2 / pulse ox sensing, and the entire time I was at 100%.

Thus, conclusion was, let’s try to fix that bloating so you don’t have to feel that anymore.

Has anybody else experienced this aspect of bloating? I figure most do, but I’m not actually sure.

Kind of just looking for clarity, because when that would happen, man was it uncomfortable. Solutions I came up with and was blessed by my doctors was, forcing burps and laying in certain ways to help the subjective sensation.

I, then, suspected abdomino-phrenic-dyssenergia. Got treated a bit for that, and there was improvement, but was doing other things at the same time (intermittent fasting 16:8 schedule to cut down on the amount of bloating), and so it became hard to discern cause.

Ive always had a high pain tolerance and have said I care not if fixing this portion causes pain down below as a result - don’t care at all! Just want to fix the upper portion.

Curious to ask folks who have had SIBO and/or APD issues some questions.

so, my GI doctor, after I brought up APD, he said, you have hydrogen SIBO, but sure you can try PT for APD, for the shortness of breath symptom you get from the bloating pressure. He said, it is very common to get breath pressure when bloated but he supposed it’s possible it can help alleviate that symptom. I explained that I don’t care if I’ve got SIBO as long as the breath pressure can be lessened during bloating, etc.

That was in 2022 some time, and I go to a pelvic floor therapist. She manipulates things and gives me some PT. I notice it helps, and it seemed to actually be working! One particular exercise worked the best, where your legs are elevated on a wall, and you are laying on your back, then you do a slow ab crunch, bring yourself up to your legs, then take a deep breath, hold, let it out, then come back down, 3 sets of 10. It seemed to calibrate things.

Fast forward to today, and I guess I haven’t worked on these in quite a while. If I get bloating, sometimes I will sit on an exercise ball, in a halfways crunch, so that my abs are flexed, and I can easily breathe through the bloating. For me, it seems like that points things towards having some dissenergia of some type with my abdomen muscles.

Does this make sense at all? Anybody else?