u/Daneyoh

I unexpectedly purchased my dream car and so now am revisting my skincare budget lol. I'm going to stick w/ my heavy hitters bc I've seen what happens when I stop using them. Those are: TNS, Defenage 8 in 1, Altreno, Azelaic Advanced, Sweet Chemistry and UVMUNE400.

But I'd love to find some alternatives to:

• Venn Cica Biome Booster - this is essentially an incredible cica serum. Super soothing, lightweight, and just hydrates and soothes so well. I was looking at the Skin1004 cica serums - any other K Beauty HGs you all have tried or love?
• Venn Compound K - this is like a hydrating ginseng antioxidant serum. I mostly use it as some added hydration in the daytime. I guess I could use the cica replacement about, or another light, hydrating, antioxidant (non-acidic) serum?

Curious what others ended up getting, if anything, from Memorial Day sales?

I didn't buy anything new, just restocks - tho one of the restocks was for something kinda new I'm currently trialing and want a longer trial period.

• Venn - repurchased Cica Biome Booster and Compound K
• Prequel - repurchased their hypochlorous acid spray (so good after the gym / before I shower)
• Bioeffect power serum - repurchased after getting through a 15ml bottle, I got the 30ml to continue this trial. It's replacing Neogenesis Recovery at night as my first serum before Aza/Altreno.
• Defenage - repurchased their body lotion

What are you all looking for? Any sales launch yet? I'm hoping Venn comes out with one but so far nothing yet.

I'm always curious about holy grail items people have - but especially looking at the cheapest and most expensive items. Cheapest - bc I can't believe something else hasn't knocked it off a HG status. Most expensive - bc I know it takes a lot for someone to continue to purchase something that price. Both are real signals IMHO that these products are special.

• Cheapest - CeraVe Acne Foaming cleanser w/ 4% benzoyl peroxide (about $13 on amazon). Nothing has controlled my inflammatory acne better than this wash. I let it sit for 60-90 seconds and then rinse. At first, I was using it every other morning. Then every morning. Now I'm using it every AM and most PMs as well. As my skin has acclimated to more usage, it's stayed clearer and even addressed some redness from low-level acne. I've probably purchased hundreds of tubes of this. PRO TIP! If you use this under your arms, it will reduce or even eliminate your need to use any deoderant!
• Most Expensive - SkinMedica TNS (I've used the buy 2 get 1 free from Dermavenue, which brings it a hair under $200/bottle). I started using it last year, and was holding my breath that it wouldn't break me out bc of the microalgae it contains. But it didn't, and relatively quickly (4 weeks-ish) I started seeing a subtle firming to the skin. I wasn't expecting that tbh. I've alreadly eliminated fine lines/wrinkles w/ the rest of my routine, so firming/plumping is about all that's left. I was so shocked I started looking for what clinical evidence it has. It's got a 12-week vehicle-controlled study, showing statistically significant improvements vs. placebo in fine/coarse wrinkles and sagging. Not tretinoin level evidence (nothing is), but the strongest evidence I've seen in the growth factor category. I took advantage of a sale in April and purchased enough to get me through the summer heat (I'm paranoid about shipping sensitive products during hot weather).

One of the things that's different about this forum is that we can highlight budget skincare that punches above its price!

A few of my HG products that don't fit into the lux tier but I'd argue work better than any others at any price:

• La Roche Posay UVMUNE400 - for now this is only found in Europe but some retailers will ship it to the US. I love the "invisible" and "oil control" version of this SPF, in the "fluid/shaka" bottle. Its very watery - I actually just tilt my head back and pour it onto my face and then swipe it around. The magic in this formula is Mexoryl 400 which blocks ultra long UVA better than anything else on the market. I find both of these formulas non-irritating to me (despite the alcohol content), and they both dry down to a barely there finish. The "invisible" is more glowy, and better during the winter for me. The "oil control" is great in the summer/humid months.
• Cerave Acne Foaming cleanser - both the 4% and 10% benzoyl peroxide versions are surprisingly tolerable. They both contain ceramides which makes them surprisingly tolerable. I did acclimate over time - first using them every other day, then daily, and now I am using them am/pm even some days. I let them sit for 60-90 seconds, and rinse, and my cystic acne is completely under control, even in my beard area. I also love using these in my pits, I don't need deoderant anymore and I never smell! Seriously, if you're acne prone or dealing w/ cystic acne, I haven't found anything better than BP, and specifically the Cerave formulas.

Would love to hear of any heavy-hitter budget skincare formulas you've used + love.

I avoided it for so long because it was:

1. "Old technology" - it has been around for so long - I figured that there must be new/better growth factor / peptide products. But the reality is that TNS+ actually has some of the strongest clinical evidence backing up it's impact on the skin. Tretinoin also is "old tech" and it's still the gold standard for anti-aging.
2. Algae - I am so sensitive to algae in skincare. It all breaks me out. TNS has a certain kind of marine derived product, chlorella that I've suspected as a problem for me in the past. But after using TNS for several months, I'm so glad/grateful to say it's been totally fine for me.
3. The pump issue - the old packaging gave people a lot of trouble. It was a small thing but an additional mark against even trying it. Thankfully the new packaging is great, I have zero issues w/ the pump and think the new design is really sophisticated looking... I can be a bit of a sucker for packaging.

I'm glad that I eventually tried it bc I've definitely seen plumping and firming from using it, I saw results after 4+ weeks or so and can't imagine not using it anymore. I can see the impact around the eye area, where the skin is thinner and a bit more crinkly for me, that has all improved. I also think it's made my pores on my cheek area appear smaller, bc the overall skin just looks plumper.

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Hey everyone! I'm u/Daneyoh, a founding moderator of r/EliteSkincare.

**Welcome to r/EliteSkincare**

Hello there! We're glad you're here! This sub exists because a lot of us wanted a place to talk about skincare without being told which products are or aren't worth discussing based on price tag alone. If you've felt boxed out of other communities lately, either because they're too expensive and "not worth it" or they're "too budget and not on topic", this is the subreddit for you!

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