
Well I guess Hochul isn't going to pull a Cuomo World Cup move Friday
Sigh. Was really looking forward to seeing what Hochul would have done Friday had we won, but...

Sigh. Was really looking forward to seeing what Hochul would have done Friday had we won, but...
And here I thought Drew Warshaw was simply a lone idiot with such a crazy idea...
Be vigilant folks. After all, this is our money and our retirement. This idiocy only seems to be spreading.
One thing that seems to be coming up in this sub frequently lately are people who are saying that not voting for a contract will be considered as you voting yes or you voting no depending on who is telling the story.
All of this is a myth. For every one of our state unions, if you don't vote, you didn't vote. It means no more than that. It doesn't count one way or the other.
There is no conspiracy. There are no written or unwritten rules about this. Nor are the independent organizations the unions use to count the votes going to put their reputations on the line to get involved in any shenanigans.
That being said: Vote. Whether you are a yes or a no, voting is the only way you're going to make your voice heard
Is it just me or should this have gone deeper than just COELIG and the IG? All those contracts just handed to Deloitte? Nobody smells anything fishier than just being chummy with them?
Come on. 🤦🏻♂️
https://www.timesunion.com/capitol/article/former-high-ranking-ny-official-admits-22299421.php
Now that PEF is apparently actually trying to get a contract that doesn't lock in inflationary losses, what exactly is the CSEA membership going to do? Are they going to see another union actually having a spine and say "Yeah, no" and vote this shit down? Here's hoping.
If anything, if Hochul keeps trying to play hardball, why not pull a Roger Benson? Go ahead PEF, start spending some of our money on lobbying CSEA and UUP members to vote it down. Do it. Work to blow the whole thing up in her face.
Due to the states penchant for pattern bargaining, we do kinda need CSEA and UUP members to say no. Having every single union pissed off at Hochul and fighting together for an actually decent contract *together* is exactly what we need. Not this divide and conquer shit the state always does.
CSEA members reading this? Do the right thing. *Vote no.*
Every single person bitching about what NYSUT got seems to be ignoring the reality that a choice was handed to all the unions. It has been widely reported that the governor set a firm limit of a cost of $500M for tier reform. The unions then had to lobby for the change they felt their members would find most important instead of every change they wanted.
NYSUT choose an age reduction. Other unions chose contribution reductions. Why is that? Ask yourselves "What percentage of the state workforce began their careers with the state to benefit from an age reduction?" Not that I'm a fan of the Empire Center and EJ McMahon, but his testimony here sheds some light on this:
https://www.empirecenter.org/publications/testimony-of-e-j-mcmahon/
The key statistic - ignoring his usual anti-pension BS full of conjecture, doomer thought, and outright lies - is the average age of a newly hired state worker: 34. While he's often full of shit, there's no reason to BS about a statistic like that.
So if the average age of a new state worker is 34, that means half of new workers will not benefit at all from the age reduction. HALF.
If anything, NYSUT choose to lobby for a benefit that only benefits a subset of members that begin their careers before the age of 33. The state unions got a benefit that benefits every member in the affected tier regardless of the age they began their career. So before brainlessly bitching more about how shitty NYSUT is for abandoning you, THINK.
The age reduction makes sense for NYSUT. People who choose to be teachers tend to start off in their careers earlier - fresh out of college - because if you want to be a teacher your employer is almost always going to be a public school district. State workers, on the other hand, often start off in the private sector - because their fields are not just largely public sector only - and then migrate to public service over time.
We've spent months in this very sub reading comment after comment complaining that the contribution rate absolutely has to be reduced because its imperative to get more money in your pockets. You got exactly what you've been bitching most about. The age reduction seemed almost like an afterthought around here.
So enough of shitting all over NYSUT. If you want to know who is to blame for not getting the age reduction, look at the governor, your union leaders, and directly in the mirror. You got the thing you were asking for the most, and NYSUT did not get that for the TRS members. It was an either/or choice.
Let the angry righteous downvoting commence.
We all know the state cries poverty at every contract negotiation. Doesn't matter who the governor is, the state is always "broke" come contract time and comes to the bargaining table with half a loaf raise offers.
This time the "poverty" will be due in part to inflation. Hogwash.
Inflation will boost tax revenues. Sales taxes - which get split between the state and counties - are the most obvious thing to increase because as things get more expensive, sales tax revenues rise.
Same deal on corporate taxes - as prices increase and corporate profit margins rise (because we all know that many large corporations today use inflation as an excuse to price gouge because 'murica!), corporate tax collections will increase.
Even income tax collections will increase, because top earners statistically tend to do better than inflation even while the rest of us either stagnate or see outright inflationary losses in income.
So just remember all this when the time comes to decide on what a fair raise will be in the next contract. The state can afford raises that meet or exceed inflation because tax revenues will support it, even if the state cries it's broke.