
Quran Says the Sun Sets in a Muddy Spring
1. Quran
Quran 18:86 in Arabic word for word creates two independent problems:
- First, Dhul Qarnayn reached (balagha) a location: the setting place of the sun (maghriba l-shamsi).
- There, he found (wajada) the sun setting in a muddy spring (ʿaynin ḥami-atin). And he "found (wajada) near it a community".
In Quran 18:90, Dhul Qarnayn travels to a different place and reaches (balagha) "the rising place of the sun" (maṭliʿa l-shamsi).
2. Tafsir al-Tabari on 18:86: Muhammad's Companion Ibn Abbas and the Salaf Debate on Whether the Spring in Which the Sun Sets Is Muddy or Hot
Tafsir al-Tabari preserves the debate between the salaf over whether the spring where the sun sets is muddy or warm. Tabari says both readings are correct because the sun could set in a spring that is both hot and muddy.
Tabari's introduction:
>(the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring). The readers differed on how to read this. Some of the readers of Madina and Basra read it as (in a muddy spring), meaning that the sun sets in a spring that contains mud. While a group of the readers of Medina and the majority of the people of Kufa read it as, (in a warm spring) meaning that the sun sets in a spring of warm water.
Mention of those who said: (setting in a muddy spring)
>Ibn Abbas: (and he found it setting in a muddy spring) he said: In black mud.
Ibn Abbas, that he recited: (in a muddy spring) he said: it is black mud.
I heard Abdullah b. Abbas said: Muawiyah recited this verse, and he said (warm spring) and Ibn Abbas said: it is (muddy spring). He said: So they sent to Ka'b Al-Ahbar and asked him. Ka'b said: As for the sun, it disappears in 'Thatin', which matched what Ibn Abbas said, and the word tha'at means "mud".
Ibn Abbas used to speak about the muddy spring and would pronounce the word as (in a muddy spring) then he explained it as black mud. Nafi' said that Ka'b was asked about it and he said: "You are more knowledgeable in the Quran than I am, but I find it in the Book disappearing in black mud."
Mujahid: (in a muddy spring). He said: black mud.
Ibn Abbas: I read (in a muddy spring) And Amr bin Al-Aas recited (in a warm spring), so we were sent to Ka'b. He said: It sets into black mud.
Qatadah: (setting in a muddy spring) and the mud: the black mud.
Tabari's verdict:
>And in my (Tabari's) mind the correct opinion is to say that they are both popular readings in the land, and each one has a correctness about it and an understandable meaning, and neither contradicts the other, for it is possible that the sun sets in a hot spring that has mud and sludge, so a reader who uses "hot spring" is describing its temperature, and the reader who uses "muddy spring" is describing that it has mud and sludge.
Tafsir al-Tabari 18:86, 10/374
3. Hadith
Muhammad directly says in a hadith, considered authentic in chain, that the sun sets in a spring:
>"I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah)."
4. Pre-Islamic Poem
A poem in Ibn Ishaq's biography of Muhammad, attributed to the pre-Islamic king Tubba, describes this as well:
>"He saw where the sun sinks from view" "In a pool of mud and fetid slime"
Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 12
5. Syriac Alexander Legend
Historians trace the Quranic character Dhul Qarnayn to a legend about Alexander the Great circulating around Muhammad's time, the Syriac Alexander Legend, which also says this:
>"So the whole camp mounted, and Alexander and his troops went up between the fetid sea and the bright sea to the place where the sun enters the window of heaven; for the sun is the servant of the Lord, and neither by night nor by day does he cease from his travelling. The place of his rising is over the sea, and the people who dwell there, when he is about to rise, flee away and hide themselves in the sea, that they be not burnt by his rays; and he passes through the midst of the heavens to the place where he enters the window of heaven... And when the sun enters the window of heaven, he straightway bows down and makes obeisance before God his Creator; and he travels and descends the whole night through the heavens, until at length he finds himself where he rises."
Budge, Syriac Alexander Legend, p. 148
I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblemabc.github.io/islam-problems/