u/DiskSweaty679

How do you think about pricing in carrying costs when the market slows down midhold?

Bought a property in Q1, underwrote it assuming a 4 month hold based on what the market was doing at the time. Market cooled. Now I'm at month 6 and still not under contract. Rehab came in close to budget, which almost feels like a cruel joke because the carrying costs are quietly eating what was supposed to be the margin.

The part that bothers me is that I modeled for this. I had a slowsale scenario in my spreadsheet. It just didn't go far enough out, and I drew the line at 5 months for some reason I can no longer fully explain.

What I keep coming back to is whether there's a point where you cut the list price to shorten the hold versus staying patient and hoping the market turns. The math is pretty clear that a price cut can actually be profitable if it gets you out faster, but that requires knowing how long you'd otherwise sit, which you don't.

So how do people model this before they list? Do you run a sensitivity table on hold length versus price and actually use it when the market shifts, or is it more reactive once you're in it? And do you factor average DOM for your specific price band or just go off gut from the neighborhood?

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u/DiskSweaty679 — 5 days ago

How do you handle contractor delays and milestone draws?

The draw schedule made sense when I set it up. Milestonebased payments, holdback at the end, nothing unusual. Then the contractor finished rough plumbing two weeks late and the whole sequence fell apart. The milestone technically happened, so the draw is due, but I'm also two weeks deeper into carry costs I didn't plan for, and the delay was entirely on his end.

Part of me wants to adjust the holdback to reflect the time damage. I'm not sure that's actually enforceable though, and more practically, I'm not sure it's smart when I still need the guy to finish the job. Poisoning that relationship right now seems like a bad trade.

The other problem is how delays compound. Electrical couldn't start, drywall couldn't start, and the completion date has slipped further than the original two weeks because the whole schedule got compressed. One trade running late doesn't just add time at the end, it creates a pileup.

So I'm curious how other people handle this. Do you write timeline penalties into the contract upfront? Actual language with teeth, not just vague "time is of the essence" boilerplate? Or does that create more problems than it solves with smaller contractors who'll walk the moment you push back?

And has anyone actually withheld part of a draw over delays and had it end reasonably well? I'm trying to figure out whether there's a clean way to handle this or whether it always turns into a negotiation where you're just trying to salvage the finish.

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u/DiskSweaty679 — 12 days ago

How do you track projected vs actual rehab costs across multiple flips?

I'm on my second flip and I've somehow ended up with three spreadsheets that all started from the same template but have slowly drifted apart. One has my original budget, one has what I've actually spent, and one is some late-night hybrid that I don't completely trust anymore.

What I'm really trying to do is compare projected vs. actual costs by trade over multiple projects. Not just whether I stayed on budget overall, but whether I'm consistently underestimating electrical, overestimating landscaping, underbudgeting flooring, etc. It feels like that's where I'd actually improve my underwriting. The problem is every property needs a few unique line items, so keeping everything standardized gets messy pretty quickly. One house has septic work, another has foundation repairs, another has neither, and suddenly the categories don't line up anymore.

For those of you who've done a handful of flips, how are you tracking this? Do you actually compare estimates vs. actuals by category, or do you mostly care whether the total rehab came in on budget?

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u/DiskSweaty679 — 19 days ago

How do you actually decide when to walk away from a deal midrehab?

Had a situation recently that I keep turning over in my head. Bought a property that penciled fine, got into demo and the scope crept hard. Not catastrophically, but enough that the numbers got tight. The question I kept asking myself was whether I was holding on because it still made sense or because I already had skin in the game and didn't want to admit the mistake.

Sunk cost thinking is a real problem in this business and I don't think people talk about it much. Everyone shares the wins or the horror stories that somehow worked out. What about the ones where the honest move was to sell midproject, take the hit, and redeploy capital somewhere that actually made sense.

There has to be a number or a trigger point where you flip the switch mentally. For me it got murky because the carrying costs were bleeding out the margin week by week while I was still figuring out what the right call was. That delay itself costs money.

Curious how others handle this. Do you have a hard threshold where you cut it, or is it more gut feel after enough deals that you develop a sense for when something is worth pushing through versus when you're just rationalizing.

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u/DiskSweaty679 — 30 days ago

What do you actually budget for surprises on your first flip?

Working through numbers on a property right now and trying to figure out how realistic my contingency buffer is. Everyone says 1015% but that range feels pretty meaningless when you start breaking down what can actually go wrong.

The house has good bones, updated roof, but the electrical panel is original and the inspector flagged some knob and tube in the walls. Cosmetic stuff I can handle, but once you start opening walls who knows what you find.

My hold costs are already tight because the market here moves slower than I expected when I ran my initial numbers. So a blown contingency basically kills the margin.

Curious what people who have done a few of these actually set aside as a percentage, and whether you calculate it off purchase price, rehab budget, or total project cost. Those three numbers give you pretty different cushions and I keep going back and forth on which one makes the most sense to base it on.

Also whether the type of property changes how you think about it. A 1940s bungalow feels different than a 1980s ranch even if the purchase price is similar.

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u/DiskSweaty679 — 1 month ago