▲ 8 r/land

I've spent more time on county GIS than Zillow lately.

I don't think people realize how often county websites answer questions that listing agents can't.

I probably spend more time on county GIS than Zillow now.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 1 day ago
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The best homesteads I've seen all look a little unfinished

The more homesteads I see, the more I notice they're never really "done."

There's always a stack of lumber somewhere, a fence getting rebuilt, a new garden bed half finished, or a project that's been waiting for six months.

It's kind of the opposite of how social media makes it look.

Makes me think a homestead isn't something you finish. You just keep improving it a little every year.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 5 days ago
▲ 12 r/land

The longer I look at land, the weirder my browser history gets.

Normal people:
Zillow.
Google Maps.
Maybe YouTube.

Me:
County GIS.
Recorded easements.
Flood maps.
Old plats from 1987.
Tax records.
Random planning commission PDFs.

I spend way more time trying to find the one document that changes everything than I do looking at the listing itself.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 9 days ago
▲ 0 r/land

A 2.6-acre parcel looked fine until I started digging into the records

Spent some time researching a vacant 2.6-acre parcel in North Texas this week and it was another reminder that land listings only tell part of the story.

At first glance it looked pretty straightforward:

  • 2.6+ acres
  • No structures
  • Growing county
  • Rural setting
  • Priced around what you'd expect for the area

Then I started digging.

One thing that jumped out was that roughly a third of the property appeared to fall within a FEMA flood zone. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but it changes where you can build, what lenders think, drainage considerations, and sometimes insurance costs.

Another interesting thing was the county appraisal history. The assessed value had dropped significantly compared to prior years. That doesn't automatically mean the property is worth less, but it raises questions worth investigating before making an offer.

What I've learned after looking at a lot of vacant land is that the biggest risks usually aren't obvious from the listing photos.

It's usually access, floodplain, septic feasibility, utilities, easements, deed restrictions, or something buried in county records.

Curious what other people have found during due diligence that completely changed their opinion of a property.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 16 days ago
▲ 9 r/land

What's the first thing you check before spending money on a land due diligence period?

I've noticed everyone has a different process.

Some people start with zoning. Others start with access, floodplain maps, septic feasibility, utilities, or topography.

If you're looking at a parcel this week, what's the very first thing you check before deciding it's worth digging deeper into?

Curious what everyone's process looks like.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 20 days ago
▲ 39 r/land

A property I almost bought taught me something

A while back I found a parcel that checked almost every box I thought I wanted.

Good price, decent acreage, road access, no HOA. I spent days looking at maps, county records, flood maps, all of it.

The more I researched it, the more convinced I became that it was the one.

Then I finally drove out to see it.

Nothing was technically wrong with it. The land was exactly what the listing said it was.

But the second I got there I knew I wasn't going to buy it.

Hard to explain. The road in felt different than I expected. The surrounding properties weren't what I pictured. The whole area just felt off to me.

I drove home thinking I had wasted an entire weekend.

Looking back, I'm glad I went.

It made me realize that maps, listings, and satellite images can tell you a lot, but sometimes you don't really know how you feel about a place until you're standing on it.

Curious if anyone else has had a property that looked perfect online but completely changed once you saw it in person.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 23 days ago
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Anyone else had a deal where the land was fine but the seller was the problem?

Spent a few hours looking into a 2 acre lot for someone who wanted to flip it.

What's funny is the land itself was actually pretty solid. Road frontage, utilities nearby, outside the floodplain, decent area.

I kept expecting to find some big problem and never really did.

The thing that killed the deal wasn't the land.

It was the seller.

Turns out the guy selling the lot was actively splitting up a much bigger tract and still had a bunch of similar lots for sale right next to it.

Made me realize something. A lot of people ask "is this a good piece of land?" when sometimes the better question is "who am I buying this from?"

Anyone else ever have a deal where the land was fine but the numbers just didn't make sense?

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 26 days ago
▲ 4 r/land

The cheapest parcel in the area usually makes me the most nervous

Maybe this is backwards, but when I find a property that's way cheaper than everything around it, my first thought isn't "great deal."

My first thought is "what am I missing?"

Sometimes it's nothing.

Sometimes it's access, floodplain, easements, restrictions, utility costs, or something else buried in the records.

I've found that the cheapest property often requires the most research.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 30 days ago
▲ 53 r/OffGrid_Classifieds+1 crossposts

am i the only one who looks at the map before the photos?

Been looking through rural listings for a while and one thing i still don't understand is why so many sellers avoid posting a map

i'm not talking about a pin dropped in the general area, i mean an actual map showing the boundaries

i'll see 30 photos of trees from different angles but no clear idea where the property starts or ends

A few weeks ago i found a parcel that looked great in the pictures. then i pulled up the county map and realized half the photos were taken from neighboring land

not saying the seller was trying to trick anyone, but it completely changed how i looked at the property Am i the only one that immediately goes looking for maps before i even look at the pictures?

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 1 month ago

Helping people evaluate off-grid / rural land before they buy

Been spending a lot of time looking at raw land and off-grid properties lately and breaking down what actually matters vs what looks good in listings.

A lot of properties seem straightforward at first but end up having things like access issues, zoning restrictions, or utility/water limitations that aren’t obvious upfront.

If anyone here is looking at land and wants a second opinion on whether something actually makes sense for off-grid use, I can take a look and give feedback.

Not trying to overcomplicate anything just like digging into this stuff and it’s easier to spot issues early than after the fact.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 1 month ago

Anybody else avoid listings with TOO good of photos now?

Maybe this is just me but I almost trust the badly photographed listings more now lol

I've looked at enough rural properties at this point where the super polished drone-shot listings end up having some weird issue once you dig deeper into them.

Then some random listing with 6 blurry photos taken on an iPhone from 2014 ends up being a solid property.

At this point I care way more about access, terrain, county rules, nearby utilities, flooding, and what's around the land than the actual listing itself.

Some sellers are amazing at marketing bad land and terrible at marketing good land.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 1 month ago

I think people romanticize raw land too much

I completely understand why people fall in love with land listings. I do too sometimes.

Big open field, mountain views, creek running through it, cheap price per acre… it feels like freedom.

But the more parcels I research, the more I realize how important it is to separate the idea of the property from the reality of the property.

Some of the nicest looking land I’ve looked into had:

  • terrible access
  • floodplain issues
  • almost no buildable area
  • expensive utility problems
  • restrictions buried in county documents
  • drainage issues you’d never notice from photos

And some of the “boring” parcels ended up being way more practical long term.

I think a lot of people shop for land emotionally first and logically second, which honestly makes sense because land is emotional.

But the practical stuff matters way more once you actually own it.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 2 months ago
▲ 244 r/land+1 crossposts

Most vacant land ‘red flags’ aren’t actually the real problem

One thing i've noticed researching vacant land is how many people focus on the wrong red flags.

People get scared off by things like:

  • no utilities
  • dirt roads
  • needing septic/well
  • no cleared homesite
  • "middle of nowhere"

But that's normal for rural land. you're buying raw, of course it doesn't have a driveway and city water.

The stuff that actually matters usually gets ignored:

  • weird access situations
  • floodplain issues
  • wetlands
  • county restrictions and zoning quirks
  • unusable topography
  • HOA language buried in documents
  • back taxes or liens on the parcel
  • legal access vs "everyone just uses the road"

i've looked through a lot of parcels lately and some listings look great until you spend 15 minutes pulling records. a cheap property isn't always a deal. sometimes it's cheap because nobody checked what they were buying.

The best parcels usually aren't the flashy ones either. they're the boring listings with clean access, decent zoning, usable terrain, and realistic development costs.

A lot of people in the homestead and land space could save themselves thousands just by doing deeper due diligence before getting emotionally attached to a property.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 2 months ago
▲ 6 r/land

I'm seeing so many North Texas land listings being marketed as bargains, and while many look amazing, that can change once you dive a bit deeper. Wanted to share the real cost landscape as you truly research a piece of property.

Imagine you find a hypothetical 5-acre tract in an exurban DFW county listed at $15K/acre, total $75K, and it's marketed as "ready to build." Here is what "ready to build" might actually cost you on top of that:

Well drill: $8,000-15,000 depending on depth

Septic system: $5,000-10,000 standard, $20,000-40,000 engineered if perc test failed

Electric run from road: $5,000-25,000 depending on distance to nearest power pole

Driveway/road grade: $3,000-10,000

Survey: $2,000-5,000

Zoning variance (if necessary): $500-2,000 (fees only) and 3-6 months of time

That $75,000 tract now costs you between $100,000-170,000 before you even pour a foundation.

I am NOT trying to dissuade anyone from buying rural land-just trying to get them to know what they are getting themselves into. The listing price is just the initial figure, not the ultimate figure.

What I would research prior to making an offer on any property: FEMA flood map, zoning code for the county in question, soil survey from the NRCS, utilities from the local co-op and any registered easements at the county clerk's office.

Anyone else come across surprising costs in a land deal? Just wondering what I'm overlooking.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 2 months ago
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I do land due diligence in the DFW market and just had an experience with a parcel that looked good on paper.

It was listed as 10 acres, priced well per acre, had road frontage and was described as "no restrictions." This seems like it would be an ideal spot for someone who wanted to build and/or homestead, wouldn't it?

Here's what 30 minutes of research produced:

Flood Zone overlap. Approximately 2.5 acres of this 10 acre tract was located within a FEMA AE flood zone. This does not just represent an inconvenient drainage issue. A flood policy is required for financing and you are looking at losing approximately 25% of your buildable land.

No public water or sewer. The nearest waterline was over a mile away. You would be looking at installing both a well and a septic system. In Collin County, that includes a perc test. If the soil in that area of the county (Houston Black clay) does not pass, you would need to consider an engineered septic system, which is $20k-$40k.

"No restrictions" is misleading. There is no HOA, but you still have county setback requirements. More importantly, the land was zoned AG. Converting to a residential use would require an application for zoning variance. This is not guaranteed to be approved and it can take several months.

Possibility of being landlocked. The "road frontage" was on an unpaved county road that was not publicly maintained. This means that should the road wash out it would be your problem.

None of these were in the listing. A potential buyer looking only at Zillow or LandWatch would likely be purchasing and moving to find all of this out later.

If you're purchasing raw land, especially in one of the growing Texas markets, investigate flood maps, check with county officials about utility accessibility, and look up zoning codes for yourself before you make an offer. Listing descriptions are a sales tool, not due diligence.

I'd be happy to answer questions about what you need to look for in DFW land.

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u/Effective-Note9686 — 2 months ago