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I mean Shinshou literally says why they didn't know about Seika and Shibashou. Riboku's information manipulation, we've been told since the beginning that Riboku is a monster unlike any other when it comes to information manipulation which is how he defeated Ouki, Kanki and Ousen.

Manipulating information means deceiving your enemies about your actual strength. Hiding the existence of armies and Generals in your state falls under information manipulation. When they killed Kanki Bafuji even says it was only because Riboku was a monster at information manipulation.

Like how can you read Kingdom from start till now and still say Riboku summons this or that like do you lack reading comprehension or something??? He's a General that excels at information manipulation he's always going to have a few HIDDEN trump cards.

Reading the same Manga with idiots is so frustrating.

Like I don't see how things are going to be interesting after Riboku. My fear is every war turning into an easy Qin W like Han post Zhao.

Like he just is so Ousen army coded I don't know how to explain it. The Denrimi replacement.

Don't get me wrong I trust Hara to bring the other 3, KK, Mouten and Shin to his level eventually but for now he's so ahead it's actually crazy. He feels more like if Tou was given freedom from a young age and not being limited to being Ouki's lieutenant just like what's happening with KK and Shin.

I feel like Shin is holding KK back from greatness.

Like he could have divided the Gian and Hango armies in half and then hid them until the Ousen army was exhausted. Half assaults Ousen while half assaults Ouhon.

Ousen's previous Generals were all likeable bar that Makou guy now it's this Ankai.

I swear Shibashou shouldn't lose a plains battle to these newcomers bro otherwise Hara is finished

Going back to Gyou she was the first to figure out Ousen's locust plan when Ouhon and Mouten were clueless. Her mind is sharp reminds me of Tou and her Martial prowess is second to none.

Han was conquered using her plan mainly.

Can't wait for her to go independent.

I feel there was so much more Tou could give. An all round General like him is such a refreshing sight honestly. Ouhon is in line to be the greater version of Tou if that is even possible.

Like I don't understand what people don't get bro. Riboku is treating each and every one of the Zhao armies as his own meaning he can go from one battlefield to another on a whim while Ousen is just in charge of his army.

Until Ousen takes care of Shibashou there is NOTHING ELSE HE CAN DO. This is a plains battle so Ousen HAS to defeat Shibashou before assisting other armies.

Again I say I can't think of any possible way Ousen beats this monster in a plains battle. Like Shibashou is not only a monster with the glaive but we've been shown that he is wise so Ousen besting him in a Plains battle would be more impressive to me than his Gyou achievements.

Honestly I don't think Shibashou will lose.

His instincts haven't been developed at all that bringing them back again would feel so random and forced. We have no idea what type of General he is without any brute force.

He's not even strong enough martial wise so him being an idiot on top of that ends up being so frustrating.

Like we accept Moubu being an idiot because he's strong as shit and can easily wipe out 10k soldiers on his own but Shin still struggles to cut down his opponents after all this time and doesn't even have the same destructive power as Yokoyoko.

He is resilient though so he'd be the perfect Akou replacement and Ousen is the smartest General in China bar Riboku so he won't have to think but just go where he is told. He is at this moment a fighter used to cut down enemy commanders so he'd be perfect under Ousen.

For this current war Riboku literally had everything planned out with the number 1 archer in China taking out Qin's commanders and leading Zhao to victory.

Plot saved Qin because those brothers should never have been anywhere close to Seikaun's level.

Even during Gyou plot saved Qin because there's no way Shin who was wounded should have been able to stand against the strongest individual in all of China at the time, Houken.

If you actually read Kingdom you'd realize that Riboku plans things out thoroughly and then Qin's plot armor saves them time and again.

I've seen some horrendous suggestions that Riboku's weakness is his obsession with Shin like what that hell is that?

Shin is literally Qin's strongest martial general bar Moubu, it's only natural that Riboku wishes to remove him from the board in any conflict. He is not obsessed with Shin it's actually the other way around.

Riboku is not so short sighted that he'd sorely focus on eliminating Shin and neglecting everything else.

Ousen even tells so that he believed he could defeat Riboku on the battlefield without needing to exploit his weakness which confirms that whatever weakness Riboku has is not on the battlefield so please stop these stupid theories.

Like Riboku is just a General doing his best for his country and yet Shin acts like he's the second coming of Satan.

He even disobeyed Ousen's order because of the mere sight of Riboku, like what is up with this slave man? Sure Riboku had Ouki killed but what was he supposed to do? I thought when Shin grows up and matures he'd understand Riboku but no he's still the same.

For those who have read history who would you rate higher and why. For me personally Li Mu takes it.

Do you know why Shin messes up time after time? It's because someone always bails him out and he survives in the end. If he is saved again here then he'll never grow and continue being a careless idiotic slave.

Shin needs to scrape his way out of this himself even if it means all his commanders die I don't care it's about time he faced consequences for his actions and learns.

Like think about it, Ousen can play the role of Chief of Military just as good as Shouheikun but Shouheikun would be a more troublesome commander to deal with for Riboku than a familiar Ousen.

So we know that SHK is supposedly stronger than Moubu on top of being as smart as Riboku so who better for Qin to slay Shibashou and basically lead the war to victory than the man Riboku knows so little about?

I get that Ousen fans have a very low I. Q in general but some of the takes I've seen from them this arc have left me flabbergasted.

' Ousen is going to appear and save Shin' is the worst take I've seen since the takes in Hango. First of all if Ousen somehow beats Shibashou on his own without any help from any of the trio then I'll take my hat off to him.

The only time Ousen and his army alone did something impressive was against Ordo back in the coalition arc but the way his army is glazed on here you'd swear they are the best in China.

An army made up of vengeful fodders was able to damage the Ousen army to the point where they had to remain in Atsuyo which led Kanki's death.

Ousen is a military genius second only to Riboku but stop treating him like he's the second coming of Christ.

Like we get Shin is an idiot but don't make him incompetent for the sake of the plot or whatever bullshit. Like my boy is supposed to know Riboku better than anyone at this point so him easily walking into a familiar Riboku trap makes zero sense and is the source of people's anger currently.

While I'm not one of those who think instincts work like Haki future sight I still think he could use HIS EXPERIENCE to actually stop and question his decisions. Like he knows Riboku is a monster strategist but just runs ahead into deeper Zhao without any caution whatsoever.

That's just disappointing honestly and him just being shocked every single time is mad annoying too like how do you fail to develop him so badly?

Last time the Hi Shin Unit fell into a trap like this it was Shin and Kyokai that got them out so now it's obvious it's going to be Ten.

While I would appreciate a Ten development I despise that it has to come at the expense of Shin. Like if we are being honest Shin hasn't been developed in like 400 chapters and most of us are tired of the current Shin honestly.

The funny part is that Ten actually needs to die in order for Shin to develop. Hara will never do that though and I also don't really want her to die.