u/Euqinueman2

The Shazaam of that screenplay was likely made in this reality’s history and then locked in a vault, and some that worked on it might have copies of it! Compelling findings in abundance!

The comments with Google’s responses provide great clarity about this!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1uatggf/comment/othl0jm/?context=1&screen_view_count=2

Try wrongly saying that screenplay is a hoax now! No, DON’T SAY THAT!!! As I said, there must be different variants of Shazaam in different realities and everyone else is recalling different variants but I recall watching the Shazaam variant of that script! THIS IS THE ANSWER to this mystery for two realities at least - this one and the one where they were able to distribute that Shazaam. That Shazaam is likely one of the two movies that Full Moon intended to release theatrically after signing a contract with Paramount in October 1992, about 2 years before the date shown on that script, but when Paramount cancelled that deal and took a tax write-off on Shazaam, it had to be vaulted and those that worked on it were sworn to secrecy. I believe the name Paul Krieg as one of the writers of that screenplay is likely a pseudonym for Paul Michael Glaser, who not only directed KAZAAM but is also credited as having written the story that the Kazaam script is based on! He worked at Interscope Communications at that time. Interscope had deals with Paramount and Disney! Disney produced Kazaam. The Shazaam screenplay has multiple references to other movies by Full Moon, including Magic Island, referenced by the ship in a bottle, and Puppet Master 4 and 5, which were originally intended to be one of the movies they were going to release theatrically! The other one is not named in the available documentation. The reason it shows the date November 16th, 1994 on the screenplay is because it’s a post-production screenplay, which is a real practice. John Candy was originally going to play the character Sinbad played in Houseguest, but he passed away on March 4th, 1994. Houseguest was filmed beginning on May 9th, 1994. Houseguest was produced by Hollywood Pictures and Caravan. Hollywood Pictures was owned by Disney! That’s why Sinbad was cast as that character in Houseguest, because he was already there acting in Shazaam at that time and they noticed him there and realized he could play that character! So it was already fully filmed before May 9th, 1994! Everyone who worked on it is sworn to secrecy because there might be major lawsuits and fines if they admitted it. The reason that Paramount dropped the theatrical deal might be because it was costing too much to produce Shazaam. It’s said that Paul Michael Glaser got the idea for Kazaam when he went to a basketball game Shaquille O’Neal played in in early 1995 and said “He should play a genie.” That’s because he already wrote a genie movie with Sinbad as the genie which was fully realized and put on tape, which I recall watching in another timeline where they were able to distribute it!

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u/Euqinueman2 — 12 days ago

Does anyone recall Puppet Master: The Movie being in theaters in 1994? Because that was one of the two planned theatrical releases by the same production company that might’ve produced Shazaam.

Here’s an article dated October 29th, 1992 about those planned theatrical releases. It says that the 2nd one had not yet been set and doesn’t name it. (If you have an ad-blocker, as I do, and don’t want to disable it in order to be able to read it, as I don’t, you can click “continue without supporting” at the lower left of that block it pops up.

https://variety.com/1992/film/news/two-theatricals-top-full-moon-s-slate-100905/

Here’s the IMDb page that says they divided it into two direct to video movies.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110916/trivia/?ref_=tt_dyk_trv

Here’s the real Shazaam script! This is the Shazaam I recall watching, but everyone else is recalling Shazaam variants from different realities which are different than this.

https://www.scribd.com/document/866968496/Shazaam

Here’s another one with more insights with help from Google that I believe are getting to the truth of what happened with Shazaam.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1uatggf/theorizing_about_shazaam/

Here’s another one with a picture of the actor who I believe was the Austin character in the Shazaam of that script, from a 1993 movie by that same production company.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1ua00q9/i_think_this_is_who_was_the_antagonist_character/

u/Euqinueman2 — 15 days ago

Theorizing about Shazaam…

I very much believe that Jordan Belfi is the actor who was Austin in the Shazaam of the Scribd script I very very much believe I recall watching, and he played a very similar character in the 1993 direct to video “Remote”. Remote is by Moonbeam Entertainment. Another movie, Pet Shop, is also by Moonbeam Entertainment and the IMDb page for it says its release was delayed from 1994 to 1995 because of financial problems at that production company. Also, in the Wikipedia article for the parent company it says “In 1992, Full Moon decided to expand into theatrical film production, with a distribution agreement at Paramount Pictures, to release two films, but it was never materialized.” I’m thinking the Shazaam of that script is a Moonbeam Entertainment movie, explaining why Jordan Belfi was in it, and that it might’ve actually been filmed and then locked in a vault. I know that it still must be a huge retcon BUT I’m wondering if it might be possible that there actually is a variant of Shazaam that exists in this reality that only I recall watching, thus making it possible that it could vanish without disruption, and that it might be locked in a vault somewhere, which would still be a retcon to me because I recall watching it. Could it have been one of those two theatrical movies?!

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u/Euqinueman2 — 16 days ago

I think this is who was the antagonist character Austin in the Shazaam variant of the script on Scribd. This is just how I recalled he looked.

That’s from the 1993 direct to video movie “Remote”. As I said, that’s most certainly how I recalled Austin looked in the Shazaam variant of that script on Scribd I swear I recall watching. The actor is Jordan Belfi and he played a very similar character in Remote to the one in that Shazaam. It’s shown that Remote is the 2nd movie he was in, and that it wasn’t until 1999 that he was in another movie or TV show. It shows that the 1st movie he was in is an extremely obscure 1990 movie with almost no information about it on IMDb named “Elephant in the Living Room”.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099494/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_90

u/Euqinueman2 — 17 days ago

Some of the most compelling finds to verify that I truly do recall having been who I believe I was

As I’ve said many times before, I was Griffith Jenkins Griffith. And here are the most compelling finds I’ve found to actually verify that I truly do recall when I was him, by recalling details that are against the odds to guess at random and then find they’re accurate.

I thought of a name like Weyland and it seemed like he might’ve been a bartender.  Then I found that James Wheeland was a barkeeper right next door to the Alta newspaper office!  I thought of the name Wheeler as a colleague’s name at the newspaper and it seemed like he was a remote colleague, like I was in another state sending back letters or telegrams to him.  Then I found that Richard Wheeler was the mining editor at the Alta in the 1878 and 1880 directories!  I recalled the first name Cornelius as the name of someone else in a business setting and then I found Cornelius Eaton in an 1877 directory literally at the building across the street from where Wheeland worked, the same building which itself was next door to the Alta office!  I recalled the last name Wiley and also thought of the first name Andrew with it, and I felt like he was bookkeeping or something.  Then I found an Andrew Wiley who was a carpenter who was working on the Palace Hotel in an 1875 directory and a Samuel Wiley who was a bookkeeper at 730 Montgomery St.!  I had also recalled being a carpenter’s apprentice and working with a carpenter in a place that looked like it may well have been a construction site because there was a building that seemed like it was far from finished, with open air all around.  I think that carpenter was probably Andrew Wiley and that that was the Palace Hotel being built.  The Palace Hotel opened in late 1875.  I think Griffith worked on it just before he started at the Herald Publishing Company.

I recalled that I was in a room that looked like it didn’t have windows but that there was an open door with bright sunlight streaming in, but the room was still very dark and I know I recall thinking, when I recalled this earlier, that the wall seemed metallic and very dark gray/black, and that that was odd because this memory’s from 1876, so you wouldn’t think there’d be a room with metal walls back then.  I even had a faint sense that it seemed like some substance was covering part of the wall, not intentionally.  I recalled that I was holding a newspaper page which was still warm and also still damp, the clear inference being that it had just come off the presses.  I recalled that I was reading an article in it that was about the U.S. centennial.  Recalling that then led me to recall talking about being worried about Russian territory in the United States.  I didn’t know why I was reminded of that until I found the very article I recalled in the July 2nd, 1876 edition of the San Francisco Chronicle, digitized on Newspapers.com, and then saw that there’s an article about the Serbian-Ottoman War literally right beside it!!  Now I found even more!  I found an 1867 directory that shows that the Chronicle printing office was at 606 Montgomery St..  They moved their administrative office to another building later but their printing press must’ve stayed at 606 Montgomery!  That’s why that page was still warm when I was reading it in that room at a corner of the Montgomery Block, as I realized after I saw a picture of the Montgomery Block in which the Daily Evening Bulletin is at that corner and BEFORE I found a June 12th, 1876 Chronicle article which says that there was a fire in the basement which destroyed the printing press and went up to the ground floor and burned a circle through part of the wall between that room and the one beside it.  So… it was soot from that fire on the wall that made it look like that!  Also, I even read that the Montgomery Block had iron shutters, which is why it looked windowless, because the iron shutters were closed and there was soot all over the wall!

I recalled that I lived right near a creek earlier in that life when Griffith was in Danville, and that it even seemed like the property line of the residence I was at was right beside it.  Then I looked at an area in Danville where I thought it might be and completely and utterly recognized the landscape there as THE place I recalled.  Then I was able to parse from the census records that Griffith’s foster parents’ residence was right near the exact place I recalled, and was right beside the creek!  I was only able to parse that by looking at the 1880 census for Danville which I hadn’t seen before.  The 1870 census doesn’t show street names.  And the 1880 census doesn’t show the names of Griffith’s foster parents.  And I recalled that there was a smokestack in the distance that I could see in a very early memory I know I recalled before I even first heard about Griffith in my current lifetime, and I now realize that it was the smokestack of either the Montour Blast Furnace or the iron foundry further south on the west side of Mahoning Creek!  And that I might’ve been in that same area when I saw that smokestack above the tree line!  

I recalled that I had a shield nickel to put in a time capsule but that there was a flood and I might’ve dropped it in the water.  I vividly recalled how I was at a ceremony where a future building was being celebrated which they were just laying the cornerstone of.  It was a day of grand civic pride and celebration with many townspeople in attendance.  And I so vividly recalled that the water from the river interrupted the ceremony by gradually flooding into the streets and that we all started walking down the street away from the water at a rather leisurely pace and that I was looking back at the water gradually coming down the decline of the street.  It was the cornerstone laying ceremony of the Montour County Courthouse in 1871!  The Montour County Courthouse was built in 1871 and 1872.  I then found an August 4th, 1871 article which says that the foundation stones for the new “Town Hall” were just then arriving.  “Town Hall” must mean the courthouse.  The courthouse served as the town hall.  I also found another article dated July 27th, 1871 which says there had been a severe rainstorm on July 16th just north of Danville which caused creeks to flood and washed away bridges!  (I had also distinctly recalled watching the creek flood during a severe rainstorm - probably the same one.)  So, what happened was that all the water from that rainstorm caused the water in the river to gradually rise over many days, going up the hill to where the courthouse is now, eventually flooding the site right when we were at the cornerstone ceremony, and then going down the decline of Mill St. into the rest of town!  It’s all exactly as I recalled it - that’s the exact area I recalled!  

I recalled that I was at a boxing match hosted by the Loyal Order of Moose which I was in.  I recalled that it was as hot as the desert in summer in that room during that boxing match.  I also recalled Wainwright as my doctor’s name.  Then I found Dr. Wainwright in directories from 1916 onward at 106 W. 3rd St..  Then I found two digitized newspaper articles about the Moose Hall at 111 W. 3rd St.!  The 1911 article says it had just been opened and the August 1917 article says there was a boxing match there!  AND… there are no listings of it in the directories!  I thoroughly searched for any listings of that Moose Hall in the 1910s directories using various search terms and did not find it.  So I didn’t get that information from the directories.  And it’s literally across the street from Dr. Wainwright!  What happened was that I passed out from the heat in the Moose Hall and was taken across the street to Dr. Wainwright!

Then there’s the one where I recalled watching a building that looked similar to a log cabin catch on fire as it was being demolished in the 1910s.  Then I found a January 1916 article about exactly that which identifies the building as one shown in a picture that I looked at and recognized as the building I recalled watching catch on fire as it was being demolished!  And it was just like 3 blocks or so up 5th St. from the Hotel Rosslyn where Griffith lived at that time AND even literally right next door to a building he lived at earlier!

I recalled the name Lazenby as the last name of a person I knew.  Then I found in the 1882 directory that a Cash Lazenby lived at the St. Charles Hotel then!  Then I looked at the 1887 directory that shows where Griffith lived then, which I hadn’t looked at before.  It didn’t say “seen however long ago” for any of these.  Then I saw that Griffith lived at the St. Charles Hotel then!  And in the 1888 directory it’s shown he had moved to another residence by then.  So I hadn’t seen that he lived at the St. Charles Hotel until then, nor had I seen that Cash Lazenby lived at the St. Charles Hotel.

I recalled the name John Hollister from San Francisco, the Hollister brothers, and that one of them might’ve delivered mail.  Then I found John Hollister in the 1880 directory right next door to the building Griffith lived at then!  Didn’t say “seen however long ago”.  Then I found two Hollisters who lived at the same residence in that time period who were milkmen - the Hollister brothers!  They were milkmen who delivered to Griffith’s residence!  AND one of them is shown as a mail carrier in the 1883 directory!

I recalled a name like Bernard Bauer or Bernard Bowman as the name of the elevator operator at the hotel I lived at.  Then I found that Bert Bowring was an elevator operator at the Hotel Pepper in the 1910 census!  And that’s only a block from where Griffith’s son’s residence was at that time!  AND that hotel was owned by one of the brothers who owned the Rosslyn!  So he was transferred to the new Rosslyn built in 1914 where Griffith lived in 1916!

u/Euqinueman2 — 28 days ago