u/ExtremePronoia

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I formed Rome without spending a single admin or dip point on coring. This is done by using the pronoiar system with lots of client states and reconquests then waiting to inherit them. Some of my pronoiars included Lithuania, Tunisia, Ottomans, Morocco, Castile, Aragon, Portugal, France, Austria, and Bohemia.

Some successes during this run were: full core return on first war with ottos, all of mine and all of Bulgaria's except those shared by Serbia. Inherit Bulgaria to quadruple in size after one war. I also managed to force pronoiar Lithuania early which was great for growing fast, but also kind of useless. I took a lot of islands from the colonial powers, because they don't give OE i simply never cored them or gave them to Australia.

Some challenges: there were many. no less than 6 times I vassalized a non monarchy or gave away over 100 dev before pronoiaring. The only solutions to this are hold on forever or release and re-conquer. I was hoping to take all of Europe but I just cant be bothered. The war with England took forever, fighting Russia is miserable (they own japan), and I want to play the new Anbennar update.

Disloyal subjects were disastrous. It is one of the worst parts of this game that there is nothing to do but war to deal with support independence, but this is even worse for pronoiars. The initial rulers of pronoiars are always 45 y/o, so they die in around 15 year. If the initial ruler dies while they are disloyal, you don't inherit AND they get a youthful replacement, so integration is set back 50 years or more. This happened with turbo Aragon and was pretty devastating.

Edit: recommend me an anbennar start from this patch