u/FOOFollower

Roth IRA vs Roth 457b - Does it matter?

*Preface: I'm just a normal person working a normal job with a normal family. I enjoy seeing the success stories here, but to those of you still in the weeds like me (I'm worth negative $$$), keep at it!

Following the FOO, deeeeeep in the messy middle, and getting serious about retirement planning. Looking for opinions on whether I should prioritize a Roth IRA or Roth 457(b) once we finish cleaning up debt. Is there any particular difference or benefits I'm misunderstanding between the 2?

Current situation:

  • Married filing jointly, both age 24
  • One-income family of 5.
  • Salary $87k currently
  • Guaranteed raises to $92k and then $96k within the next 2 years
  • Strong pension plan:
    • I contribute 1.15% of salary
    • Pension accrues at 2% of salary per year
    • Vesting in 1.5 years
    • No current plans to leave

Following the FOO:

  • Step 1 complete
  • Step 2 N/A
  • Step 3 underway
  • Step 4 will be done before 5 & 6
  • Preparing account structures for Step 5 & 6

Assets / liabilities:

  • Home value: $130k
  • Mortgage: $113k
  • Pension contributions: $11,500
  • Credit cards: $12,000
  • Car loans: $24,500
  • Medical debt (including collections): $5,000
  • Other 0% debt: $4,800

Once the credit cards are gone, we'll have about $793/month available to invest (including current monthly cash surplus). Once the cars are paid off, that frees up another $732/month. They're technically not high interest for our age, but I want to get them within 20/3/8.

My employer offers a governmental 457(b) with both Traditional and Roth options. At this point, I'm mostly interested in Roth contributions because of my age and expected future income.

The pension is a unique factor as well. These contributions are required and totally separate from the investment cash I discussed above.

If I stay with this employer for 40 years, the projected benefit at my NRA of 65 would be around $129k/year. If I leave after roughly 17 years, the projected benefit would still be around $60k/year. These are equivalent to a 4% draw on $3,225,000 and $1,500,000 respectively. I'm considering a private sector switch at some point, so this will fluctuate depending on the timeline of that.

Because of that, I expect to have significant taxable income in retirement regardless of what I do with additional savings.

My question is:

If you were in my shoes, would you prioritize:

  1. Roth IRA first, then Roth 457(b)?
  2. Roth 457(b) first, then Roth IRA?
  3. Split contributions between both?
  4. Excess will go to the 457b and then spill into taxable brokerage as well.

I like the flexibility of the 457(b) since it can be accessed penalty-free after separation from service, but I also like the flexibility and investment choices available in a Roth IRA. Not super sold on FIRE or anything like that, but not sure where I'll be in 20 years.

Curious what others would do and why.

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u/FOOFollower — 2 days ago