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their endings are my NIGHTMARE

I think besides levi's ending ( because in my opinion it's very tragic and the saddest ending in this manga that he lost everything even his ability to walk and his eye and his fingers and all of his friends and comrades and family members )

But now I want to highlight another endings that makes me feel bad , but not because they are tragic and sad like Levi not at all , but because they are PATHETIC which it's jean and historia endings because in my opinion ? There is nothing worse than being stuck in a loveless marriage like seriously that's my nightmare seeing their endings was like a torture to me because they are weird and uncomfortable and clearly unhealthy

1 Now let's start with jean's ending first

it was confirmed that jean married mikasa and now let's see if their marriage makes sense or not

first they didn't have any dynamic they didn't talk to each other at all and even jean had to remind her that " not everyone wants to die for eren like her " because her obsession reached a dangerous level , anyway it's clear that mikasa never loved jean and cared for him , even isayama said " he is nothing in her eyes " she only USED him to not be lonely anymore and he was just a second option , anyway she's still wearing the scarf ( which it embodies her love for eren ) she is still visiting his grave and dragging her husband , her children and her children's children ( which it's insane because first he is a genocider and second those children they don't know eren so why are they visiting him ? Unless if mikasa is forcing them because remember they don't know him so they don't have any reason to visit him ) anyway we see that in the afterlife eren and mikasa are like in heaven living together or something ? I don't know what to say so eren the man who killed a lot of people for no reason will be chilling in heaven with mikasa ? And why mikasa live with eren in heaven this is not how " letting go " works , if she will go back to him then she didn't let go of him !! And why she's living with him instead of her NEW FAMILY HUSBAND AND CHILDREN this is weird… it's literally sounds like cheating or something , imagine the children feelings and trauma that their mother actually is a cheater who doesn't love their father… ( it made me feel uncomfortable because when I was a child I really wanted one of my parents to love the other and I felt bad when I realized that parent won't love my other parent ) sooo I don't know what to say , this relationship is disgusting it makes jean looks a pathetic simp who doesn't have self-respect , it's just so sad that jean is nothing but a second option and won't find someone who loves him unconditionally for who he is , his so-called wife will NEVER see how amazing he is that he gave up on his dreams just do the right thing because she is so busy visiting the genocider grave , the weirdest part is that a lot of people be like " b-but it's clear that she loved him why would they marry if she's not ? " but we need to see that !! We can't just assume the off-screen romance , if we have to assume then the relationship is officially a badly-written relationship to the point that we have to use our headcanons to justify this fucked up scenario

2 now let's talk about historia

historia is way worse , first when the characters joined the scouts they were CHILDREN they were very young , and we know that historia had suicidal thoughts when she joined ( that's why she tried to drag daz with her , she wanted to die a heroic death at least she wanted the people to remember her like this she wanted them to remember her as a good person )

anyway this scene did prove to us something that historia had suicidal thoughts since a very young age and I know that her family are responsible for the way she feels but the bullies are responsible too !! Because they strengthened this feeling into her that she's unwanted and unloved because they showed her that no one wants to be her friend… making historia marry the man who made her suicidal is very disgusting like wtf !! every time he shows in she make such a miserable face and in the end the author is trying to romanticize her story by showing us that she's smiling while celebrating her child's birthday ( he is trying to show you that the story is not so bad and this scenario is good just because he draw one panel of her smiling ) because you know it's a good thing to marry someone you don't love ( this conclusion did destroy her character development and making everything she ever stood for falls ) like seriously this scenario is so uncomfortable…

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 4 days ago

So mikasa who was " inspired " by casca is better than her

casca is a very passionate character who showed different emotions ( happiness , sadness , anger , fear , love , hate ) literally everything you can imagine

Her relationships and dynamics are well-written and well-developed regardless if it was with Griffith , guts

Or her friendship with farnese and the other characters

she is not a mary-sue she has her own struggles to overcome , and she's not centered around a specific character to the point that when you remove them she will be just gone

casca is hated because she shows the struggles of the victims in the right way and people considering it " fanservice " even though the author did focus on her psychological and mental state and did portrayed it as " trauma " and never made it look good or romantic , he showed you that this thing is TRAUMATIC it was NOT fanservice or fe*ish it was traumatic and sad and it was portrayed in the story as " something wrong "

anyway at least casca is a victim to this thing unlike mikasa who committed this thing , she " SAED " eren severed head even though he can NOT move his head away or say no… at least casca did NOT do such a disgusting thing

another difference ( unlike berserk , the story of aot did NOT portray mikasa's action as something wrong , the story treated it as something romantic and did romanticize her action )

another thing , mikasa as a character is a copycat from casca ( literally everything the backstory and the reason why she loves Griffith and Griffith's dream about living with casca )

casca/mikasa were about to get harmed by that way but Griffith/eren saved them and gave them blanket/scarf and they start to fight for Griffith/eren , and the cabin scene is literally " inspired " or to be fair ( copied ) from Griffith's dream about living with casca

like seriously I can't with mikasa's fans anymore 😭

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 6 days ago
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The biggest wasted potential in aot

In my opinion ? I think miche zacharius or whatever was his name is the biggest wasted potential in aot , I really wanted to see more of his character but nahh the author had to waste him , I feel like he is very interesting , imagine what he could have done with his sense of smell

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 7 days ago

I don't know why but I love nanaba

I don't know what is the reason even though she died too early ( seriously like after 5 seconds of being shown ) but I kinda loved her ? I wanted her to live so much when I first saw her ( she didn't sadly ) but I really liked her for some unknown reason… she was kinda brave if you remember her

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 7 days ago

Attack on titan is kinda sexist

Am I the only one who think attack on titan is sexist , like seriously just because the women can join the military doesn't mean this manga is not sexist , think about it , most of the girls did fall in love with their abusers for no absolute logical reason regardless if it is a romantic love or familial love ( literally any kind of love )

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1 mikasa did love the man who called her slave and was about to kill her ( the alliance wouldn't have survived if falco didn't save them even Connie did mention this that they almost died if it wasn't for falco ) anyway it's not logical , humans emotions can change ( we can love someone in the past yet we hate them now in the presence after what they did to us ) mikasa did love eren in the past ? Logical because he saved her you know , but it is NOT logical for her to continuing loving him after everything that happened ( she's still on the same level of obsession like come on have some character development move on find your worth oh my god ) the fact that she is still visiting the man who killed her adoptive family is insane ( we all knoe that eren is the reason for grisha and Carla death which were mikasa foster family )

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2 ymir fritz did love the man who abused her in any way possible and continued to serve him for like 2000 years like what ? ( before you play the Stockholm syndrome card let me shock you , ymir does NOT have Stockholm syndrome ) and mind you she saw the future she knew someone will free her , so why don't she hurry up and free herself ? there is No reason

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3 historia did have an unhealthy marriage ( it's clear by her expression ) and married someone who did bully her and threw rocks at her and made her suicidal

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4 annie did love her father ( this one is familial love )

who abused her like what ? And why is that ? Just because he apologized ? what ? I mean compare zeke reaction to his father abuse and Annie reaction to her father abuse ( both of them got abused by their fathers , but one was logical and did hate his father , and here is the other one who's ready to kill for the man who beated her , the man got better writing than the woman when it comes to reacting to family abuse I guess ? Don't you see the sexism in this ? ) anyway and another thing , Annie did love her CAPTURER ( armin ) like what ? annie her whole life the only thing that she ever wanted was to go back to her father and armin took that from her and… you know he is the reason for why she was captured he made this plan ( of course he will she is his enemy ) but she loved her capturer !! This is weird

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5 when it comes for gabi and falco I will NOT say their relationship is unhealthy , but think about it okay ? just think ask yourself and not me okay ? Why gabi should return the love for falco when she never showed interest in him ? like yeah I know falco showed his interest and love for her ( but she never did ) so why the moment he did confess she suddenly returned the love without right building ? she did care for falco and considered him as her friend yeah that's for sure , but she didn't love him romantically so why the moment he did confess she quickly returned the love , everyone was happy because falco confessed his love and got what he wanted but no one said this is unlogical , at this point I feel like gabi was some prize for falco or something ( like yeah after protecting her all the time he got her ) the girl shouldn't be forced to love someone just because he protected her you know ?

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Anyway the rest did die ( because you know the woman can NOT live without having a romantic unhealthy relationship ) and most of them had bad writing

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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 19 days ago

Can people stop saying " levi and mikasa are the same "

Levi and mikasa are NOT the same , just because they are both ackermans with dark hair that does NOT mean they are the same ( those similarities are only superficial similarities ) which it's a thing any normal person will notice 😭 but if you really focused and were paying attention , you will notice that they are supper different than each other

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1 backstory

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Levi has one of the best backstory and it helps in the worldbuilding of attack on titan and reflects on the corruption of the government how for example they abandoned the undercity people and it explains why Levi helped historia when it comes to the orphanage his past AFFECT him

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when it comes to mikasa it's very simple ( some human traffickers came to kidnap mikasa and eren saved her ) that's it as simple as that , and we don't see her past affecting her ( do you remember when I said Levi helped the people from his past the UNDERCITY Children ) mikasa didn't do a thing about the human traffickers we don't see her talk to historia for example about this so historia will order the military police to search about more of the human trafficking , and she herself doesn't remember her past a lot she doesn't even remember her family ( while Levi he does talk about his past especially in THE MANGA OF SEASON THREE when he remembered Kenny and how he was only a child when kenny left him in the underground ) but mikasa I don't see her past affecting her a lot

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2 dynamics

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When it comes to levi he has a lot of relationships and interactions and a lot of dynamics with MULTIPLE CHARACTERS

( his mother he remembers her a lot , Kenny his uncle and the complexity of their relationship since kenny is the one who raised him yet abandoned him and joined the military police and now Levi has to fight him since he joined the scouts " this complexity is so beautiful like will they fight each other and how they will solve their problems and what do they feel about each other now since they are fighting in different sides " it is a very beautiful relationship , his friendship with farlan and Isabel , his comradeship with erwin and hange , his first squad and his second squad , lets not forget his rivalry with zeke , and the way he start to develop his relationship with falco and gabi and a lot of dynamics , interactions , relationships and connection to the people around him )

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while mikasa ? she doesn't even have dynamic with the man she loves , she didn't develop the way she thinks of him or view him she didn't decide to look at him in a different way , she didn't develop her relationship with Levi even though they are both ackermans that's mean they can find something in common , she didn't develop her relationship with kyomi even though they are related yet she didn't feel any curiousity towards her and the asians even though those are the people of her MOTHER SIDE OR HER MOTHER LINEAGE yet we don't see any relationship or interesting dynamic , lets not forget that she doesn't have conversations with armin outside of eren !! Like seriously they don't interact with each other unless if it's about him !! ( at this point I feel like eren is a mutual friend between them rather than them being an actual friends towards each other outside of him too !! ) and lets not mention how her parents doesn't affect her character ( unlike every character in attack on titan their parents had such a big affect on them and how they think ) but not her , she does NOT even remember them , she never visited their grave not even once !! I don't remember a panel of her visiting their grave ( I don't think they have one because you know eren is more important than her parents you know 😭 ) and yet she visits eren grave the most ( even in the extra pages ) while her parents ? Not even a single panel of her remembering them or visiting them whatever , her friendship with Sasha came out of nowhere ( actually it's not even a friendship it's just them being drawn in the same panel or standing close to each other ) this is not how friendship works , do you know how is the real friendship ? Take for example Levi and hange or sasha and connie this is how friendship works by having a meaningful conversations and more interactions to each other ( and Sasha and mikasa don't have that like seriously just because mikasa pulled sasha hair to make them wake up that doesn't mean they are strong friends or something ) her friendship with the warriors doesn't have enough building especially annie like what !?!?!

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3 agency

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Levi definitely has agency

1 he decided that erwin should sacrifice himself for Humanity's victory

2 he is the one who made historia queen by telling her in both the manga version or the anime version to become queen so the military police won't take the rule ( and then stopping the scouts from exploring the outside world and then the old scouts their sacrifices will be meaningless ) Levi made sure this will NOT happen

3 he made a deal with that merchant ( I forgot his name )

4 he is the one who decided to give armin the serum ( not because eren told him not because mikasa was crying like if she wasn't expecting this since they are working in the literal MILITARY ) but because he doesn't want erwin to live like a monster he wanted him to die human ( and before you say he did this because eren convinced him let me remind you that he wanted to choose erwin but erwin was the one who moved his hand )

5 he saved a lot of scouts without being told

6 he was the one who decided that they should kill the military police to take back eren and historia

7 he is the one who planned the WHOLE FINAL BATTLE IN SEASON 4 AGAINST EREN WHILE ARMIN WAS KIDNAPPED

8 he in the end decided to help those children who were affected by eren's action

and a lot and a lot of decisions who were very important to the plot

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but mikasa ? not even a single decision ( even armin called her out for it and told her to learn how to make a decision by herself ) in the final battle it wasn't her decision to kill eren ( eren literally told her this in the paths , and in the real world Levi and Jean and annie told her to , even Connie bro ) if no one said ( the plan did change to kill eren ) she wouldn't come with this idea by herself I swear it ( let me remind you when she joined the alliance she really thought that they will talk to eren and bring him back she joined in hope to take back eren )

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4 philosophy

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Levi has his own philosophy which it's not giving up and surviving until the very end and not regretting your choices because you didn't know the future etc

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What is mikasa philosophy ? I read the manga and I remember that she didn't have her own philosophy and ideologues

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5 impact on the plot

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Levi has a very big impact on the plot because of his choices ( which I explained up in the post ) and with his dynamics ( Erwin and Kenny for example in season 3 they were very important in the story because of this , because the relationship between Kenny and Levi Kenny by his will gave him the serum , and levi because of his relationship with erwin he did decide what should the scouts do against zeke to take away the burden from erwin ) and lets not mention the plans he made ? Against the military police in season 3 against eren in season 4 come on now !! , most of the important decisions who moved the plot forward Levi did take them…

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but mikasa ? Her only importance in the plot was in the ending when she freed ymir ( which it's a bad writing because there was no interactions between the two , no building to this no foreshadowing literally nothing !! ) and mind you eren did free her when we saw her eyes ( but you know isayama had to regress ymir's character development so he can gave mikasa some importance )

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6 moving on

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After eren died mikasa completely stops fighting because her reason did die , she will visit the grave for the rest of her life ( without at least one panel showing us that she did move on by her talking to another character or seriously anything !! ) she will wear the scarf for the rest of her life , she will bring her husband and children to visit the grave ( and mind you her children doesn't know who is eren they never meet him so why would they go ? Unless she was forcing them because you know he is very dear to her ) she's acting like she lost everything ( she still has armin after eren died and we don't see her talking to him or interact with him !! ) she doesn't even wait for him with historia !!

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while Levi the man who lost everything even his eye and fingers and the ability to walk still fighting even after his loved ones died , he lost people ? He finds another ? He lost farlan and Isabel ? Here he is became close to erwin and hange , he lost erwin and hange ? Here he is developing his relationship with falco and gabi , he does NOT give up , he is still finding new people new purpose and NOT Stopping from living his life just because of a dead person because life never stops , he is helping the children who their home was destroyed by the war he is doing everything with his life helping people he does NOT know , making new friends and moving on

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7 showing curiosity

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Levi when Kenny was dying , he was very curious about his own identity he was asking Kenny what he was for his mother ( which it's Kenny sister but Levi in that time didn't know ) and is he is his father or not ?

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but mikasa she never showed any curiosity about herself and her identities regardless if it was her Ackerman identity or asian identity .

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8 desire for freedom

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when Levi was in the underground he wanted freedom he wanted to live up in the upper city and he wanted to see the sun and sky , and when he reached that he start fighting for Humanity's freedom and to be free from those walls and to know what's behind them and that's why he followed erwin because he realized that erwin can reach this through his leadership

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But mikasa ? No desire for freedom at all

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9 giving people the freedom

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Levi never forced anyone to choose anything for example he was always saying to eren ( you should make a choice ) but he never forced him into ( which choice ) he was giving eren the freedom to choose what he wants and what he will regret the least ( like what he told him in season 1 )

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But mikasa ? She was always forcing the people around her to choose what she wants ( she was forcing eren in the name of protection ) she literally tried to kill floch in season 3 for having a different opinion than her ( and Levi ) she told historia that she will kill her if she didn't side with eren , she's not free herself that's why she doesn't believe in other people freedom and having the right to choose which path they will take and what kind of fate do they want ( she doesn't care ) she literally tried to stop eren from joining the scouts she tried to take his dream away from him just because she does NOT want to !! like seriously ? She does NOT care about what the people around her want ? What is their desire ? She doesn't care she will take their right to choose away

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10 showing emotions like sympathy and empathy

Levi for example did comfort that soldier when he was dying and did hold his hand ( even though Levi hates blood ) and we all saw his reaction at erwin death and the scouts death and a lot of scenes and of course when the yeagerists did die ( because they weren't always Yeagerists someday they were scouts too fighting on Levi side too they are his COMRADES )

But mikasa ? she never showed any emotions when hannes was dying ( she wanted to kiss eren instead ) when that commander who told her " go save your lover " died she didn't care even though he supported ber by letting her go after eren

Don't ever let me talk about how she killed the yeagerists ( which weren't always her enemies someday they were her comrades you know ? ) yet she was more brutal to them than the way she was fighting annie or reiner

and Louise ? She was a CHILD brainwashed by eren , she showed eren the ADULT who committed the genocide and brainwashed Louise more sympathy than her , she didn't even listen to her words !! ( because of Louise mikasa got her scarf back because Louise didn't throw it away like what eren told her ) and instead of blaming eren she blamed Louise the child ? Wow

11 showing morality and principles

Levi showed his mortality he asked himself ( did the scouts sacrificed themselves so the souls of the innocent will be crushed like this ? ) and cared about humanity's victory to the point that he asked erwin ( is your dream more important than humanity's victory ? ) and a lot of things

mikasa never showed any morality , she simply killed eren because he told her in the paths not because she cares about the innocent people + because according to her eren did go away and she will bring him back ( and if she couldn't control him and bring him back she will simply kill him ) not because she really cares ( she really wanted to talk to eren even though eren did already killed millions of people )

12 political opinions

Levi did express his opinions about the corrupt government and the military police and shared some political opinions and helped historia in her politics ( helping the children with the orphanage )

Mikasa never showed political opinions even though attack on titan world is very political ( like seriously do you remember her saying a political opinion ? )

and yet people still claim that levi and mikasa are the same

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 22 days ago

I think eren yeager is the worst protagonist in fiction

I think eren yeager is the worst protagonist in all of fiction like seriously his writing is so weak

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in chapter 139 eren changed his goal twice

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First he said that he wanted to get to mikasa's choice and then he said he doesn't know he just wanted to do it like what ?

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his relationship with mikasa is loveless he never showed her any love ( only platonically as a family ) but never in a romantic way , but in chapter 139 suddenly out of nowhere he is head over heels for her like what ? Since when .

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his backstory is wack ( a kid who hates titans for killing his mother ) and then he was the one who killed his mother like ??

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And I hate the plot twists like for example when he convinced grisha to kill the reiss family I felt like it was just a cheap failed way to make eren look important

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For like 3 seasons eren never achieved anything through his own choices , everything was done under the commanders' guidance , the moment he relied on his own free will he caused a catastrophe which only highlights the limitations of his intellect and decisions-making skills

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anyway he is not smart he can see the past and the future and everything yet he FAILED even though he can SEE them all , like what ? How can a person fail with such an ability

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his idea of freedom was never showed , like what is freedom to him ? what does freedom means to him ? He is always saying I am free I am free but he Is free in what exactly , he literally followed his fate in the manga without any kind of rebellion or fighting the fate ( even though fighting your fate is a theme in the manga ) like how can a character represent freedom submit to fate like this ?

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anyway his plan sucks if he did this to save the island the island got doomed because now ? They have another reason to hate eldians for

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If his plan was to make his friends live a long life will he risked their lives and he admitted that he didn't know if they will survive or not ( and hange died and sasha died )

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Did he do this because he wanted to ? another reason why his writing is bad because for like 137 chapter eren always asked for other solutions or options

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did he do this to get to mikasa's choice ? Will what if mikasa didn't kill him what will happen ( do you see how much of weak his plan is 😭 )

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did he do it to make the alliance look like heroes ( that's ridiculous because why would he cause the death of sasha his FRIEND WHO NEVER KIDNAPPED HIM BEFORE to make annie THE GIRL WHO KIDNAPPED HIM TO GIVE HIM TO MARLEY SO SOMEONE CAN EAT HIM a hero ? ) like… what ?

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Like what do you mean he was ready to kill Levi the man who saved his life MULTIPLE TIMES so reiner his friend can look like a hero , anyway what if the alliance didn't choose to stop the rumbling ? What if for example the alliance didn't success to stop the rumbling who's going to be a hero for who

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His plan is so weak to the point that if we said " that's the goal of this plan that's the reason " we find a thing makes the goal unlogical because no one can reach any goals with this plan that achieved nothing

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Anyway his writing is not realistic , any kid when they grow up in a loving and healthy family they wouldn't think about killing people even if it is to help a person , the fact that he killed those people who kidnapped mikasa without thinking or hesitation like he is very used to killing like what ?? even the adults in attack on titan showed hesitation towards killing and you tell me a boy his age is 9 who grew up in a loving family didn't have any problem when it comes to killing ? even if it was to help mikasa it was so fast like when did he think of that ? That's not natural , is eren psycho ? well… if he is psycho than why he helped mikasa ? And why he cried and showed remorse towards Ramsey ( his writing is so weak 😭 )

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a lot of people glaze him for not being a traditional shounen protagonist ( you know a good person who loves to help ) but just because he is not traditional that does NOT mean he is well-written

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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 26 days ago

My friend just finished season 4 and she doesn't like the female cast

I was talking to one of my friends ( she's a girl and I am a girl too ) and she said that she finished attack on titan and she doesn't like the female cast ( to be honest I don't like them too ) anyway I'm going to share OUR opinion about each female character in attack on titan ( since we both kinda have the same opinions about every single one )

1 mikasa is very male-centered and doesn't have any kind of personality outside of eren ( I agree with her )

2 sasha is annoying ( from her pov ) and she's saying that her comedic scenes aren't funny ( I agree with her ) because if the point of her character was her to become a comic relief then no… because her jokes aren't funny if isayama meant to make the audience laugh

3 historia ending is ridiculous and her character got destroyed ( I agree with her )

4 annie fighting reason is ridiculous why would a person wants to go back to an abusive father who beats them ( imagine killing people for someone so unworthy ) and to be honest ? ( I agree with her )

5 pieck is boring she doesn't have backstory and she doesn't carry a theme and she's just a copycat from Annie a girl who is fighting for her father nothing spiecal , and there's something weird about her , she is saying that she doesn't trust Marley yet she's very loyal to magath , yet she fought to protect Marley even when she thought her father is dead and it doesn't make sense for her to say " I want to talk to eren " even though she wanted to kill him ( I agree with her )

6 gabi didn't fulfill her redemption arc ( I agree with her )

7 yelena is so badly-written and kyomi too , they don't represent a ladies from the outside world in a good way or in interesting way they just got sidelined ( I agree with her )

8 ymir ( jaw titan ) doesn't make sense especially that decision when she decided to go with reiner and Berthold ( I agree with her )

9 ymir is the worst ( fritz ) , I agree with her

Do you agree with us ? 😭

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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 27 days ago

Since when this sub became full with ending defenders

Like seriously I remember titan folk being a sub full of people who are aware about how the ending is bad and people who wouldn't justify this scenario , what did happen ?

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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 27 days ago

My favourite attack on titan female characters

Before the time skip ? Definitely historia she was the best ( only pre time-skip because after the time skip the author destroyed her character )

after the time skip ? Definitely gabi she did go through a good character development

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 28 days ago
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historia reiss character assassination

I've always loved historia pre time skip because she was the most worked out female character in attack on titan , and what I love about her arc the most it's the fact that her arc has multiple themes , being free and not follow orders blindly ( she rejected her father order to inherit the titan ) and to surpassing the parents and not burdened the children with expectations and of course to embrace your existing and stop hating yourself just because other people don't love you , now here we are the author DESTROYED HER CHARACTER in a way I've never seen before , what a character assassination

u/Fearless_Wonder3698 — 28 days ago