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The UK weight-loss pill market has just become more interesting.

Foundayo was approved yesterday so now the Wegovy pill finally has some competition and hopefully Novo will reduce their prices, heres the thing, the two medicines are quite different. Firstly, Foundayo is not Mounjaro in tablet form. Although both are made by Eli Lilly, Mounjaro targets GLP-1 and GIP, while Foundayo targets GLP-1 alone. Based on their separate clinical trials, Wegovy pill currently appears to have a modest advantage for average weight loss:

Wegovy pill: 13.6% over 64 weeks

Foundayo: 11.1% over 72 weeks

I wonder if the quicker to average weight loss is due to the shorter schedule?

Foundayo among people who remained on treatment: 12.4% However, they have not been tested directly against one another. These figures give us a useful idea, but they do not prove that one will work better for an individual person.

Foundayo’s biggest advantage is how easily it should fit into everyday life, the Wegovy pill must be taken on an empty stomach with no more than 120ml of water. You then need to wait at least 30 minutes before eating, drinking or taking other tablets.

That may sound simple, but it can become inconvenient surprisingly quickly. Morning coffee has to wait. Breakfast has to wait. Other medication may have to wait. Miss the routine and you may end up reorganising the start of your day around one tablet. Foundayo can be taken at any time, with or without food and without limiting how much water you drink. For anyone juggling work, children, early starts, shift patterns or several other medicines, that freedom could be genuinely useful.

The less appealing part is the six-stage dosing schedule:

0.8mg → 2.5mg → 5.5mg → 9mg → 14.5mg → 17.2mg

There must be at least one month between increases, so someone starting at 0.8mg would need a minimum of around five months to reach 17.2mg.

You do not automatically need to reach the highest dose. If a lower strength is working well and remains tolerable, there may be no benefit in rushing upwards. Even so, potentially working through six different strengths looks rather drawn out, especially as prices vary between them.

The side effects will sound familiar to anyone who has used a GLP: nausea, constipation, diarrhoea, vomiting, indigestion and abdominal pain. Tablets must also be swallowed whole rather than split or chewed etc.

My early verdict is fairly simple:

Wegovy pill has the stronger trial result. Foundayo has the easier routine.
That convenience should not be treated as a minor detail. A medicine can look excellent in a clinical trial, but it still has to work around someone’s actual life. For some people, the freedom to take Foundayo whenever it suits them may matter more than a relatively small difference in average trial results. It's now authorised in the UK, but it is not yet available. We still need UK prices to be published.

Which would matter more to you: Wegovy pill’s stronger trial result, or Foundayo’s much simpler daily routine?

My wife used to love Haribo, but now says they taste like chemicals. I’m on Mounjaro and tea ,after a lifetime of drinking, tastes awful to me.

Anything random like that happened to you?

Just to be clear: Wegovy pills are effective for a lot of people and if you're starting out, a great option! But some pharmacies are actively pushing patients to switch from Mounjaro to Wegovy (either the pills or the injectables) simply because it suits their profit margins. In the process, the information patients are getting is being distorted.

The main trial data shows the 25mg Wegovy tablet averages a 13.6% weight loss. Those are decent results. However, Mounjaro injections and higher-dose Wegovy pens consistently produce higher averages.

Many people who switch from Mounjaro to Wegovy report that the appetite suppression feels noticeably weaker. The "food noise" returns, they feel hungrier, and progress often slows, stalls, or even reverses. Switching purely because it’s a bit cheaper can quickly become a false economy.

Then there are the practical differences:

Tablets: Must be taken every morning on an empty stomach with a sip of water, followed by a strict 30-minute wait before eating. You can't split a pill, leaving very little room to adjust your dose if side effects hit.

Personal preference plays a massive part here. My wife won't go near a needle, making the pill a great option for her. For others, one quick injection a week is far easier to manage than a daily fasting routine.

The takeaway:

Mounjaro generally delivers the strongest average results and the best appetite control.

Wegovy injections still produce strong, proven results.

Wegovy tablets absolutely work, but may feel like a step backward if you’ve already been losing on Mounjaro.

Don't write the pills off. But more importantly, don't let a pharmacy steer you into swapping medications just to pad their own margins. Make your decision based on what actually works for your body and your routine, not on the cheapest or most heavily promoted option.

Novo Nordisk has filed a lawsuit in the US against Eli Lilly, claiming its adverts unfairly compare the highest doses of Mounjaro AKA "Zepbound" with older, lower doses of Wegovy, without properly reflecting newer evidence for higher-dose Wegovy. Lilly says the comparison comes from a valid head-to-head clinical trial and will defend the case.

This is specifically a US dispute. In the UK, prescription-only medicines shouldn' t be advertised directly to the public, while professional comparisons must be accurate, balanced and based on an up-to-date review of the evidence. An older study may still be valid, but presenting it as current proof of superiority without clearly acknowledging relevant newer doses and data could be challenged as misleading advertising if this was to occur in the UK. Novo wants the adverts withdrawn and is seeking damages.

https://www.reuters.com/world/novo-nordisk-says-it-is-suing-eli-lilly-accusing-it-false-advertising-2026-07-21/

I’ve been snowed under at work with a complex case, but I finally took a minute to look through Reddit, and thought it was best to post an update for anyone affected.

I was pointed to this yesterday evening by a member of the community, and while I was late to what had happened, in true Monj fashion, they have already put together a very detailed update on the situation, including the company trail, patient guidance, and possible next steps:

https://monj.co.uk/owl-clinic-uk-refunds-data-cloudrx-company-trail/

The Monj article is a great resource and covers the topic in depth, but it may be quite a lot for some people to digest in one go. So the main point is this: If you ordered through OWL Clinic and are still waiting for medication, a refund, a prescription update, or a clear explanation, it would be sensible to start getting your evidence together now.

Nirvair Group Ltd, the company linked to the operation, appears to have applied for strike-off / dissolution. That does not prove wrongdoing, and it is not the same as a court or regulator making a finding. However, if you are still owed money or waiting for an order, it is important information to be aware of.

Please do not bury your head in the sand if you are affected. A practical first step would be to save everything in one place, including order confirmations, payment receipts, emails, screenshots, app messages, refund promises, delivery updates, prescription wording, and any pharmacy-related information. It may also be worth keeping copies of any adverts, social media posts, videos, influencer content, or purchase claims you saw before ordering, especially if specific claims were made by individuals on social media. Posts and videos can disappear, so screenshots, screen recordings, links, dates, and names may be useful later.

This is also a cautionary tale more generally. Be very careful when people online are pushing you towards a provider, discount code, private group / message, referral link, or “limited time” offer. Some people may be genuinely trying to help, but others may have incentives that are not obvious to the person buying. Before purchasing medication online, it is always worth checking who is actually providing the service, which pharmacy is involved, what registration details are shown, what the refund process is, and whether the claims being made are properly backed up.

You may also want to contact your bank, card provider, Klarna, PayPal, or whichever payment route you used, and ask what options are available to you. If you believe you are owed money and the company is applying to be struck off, you may also want to look at whether an objection can be made through Companies House. For patient-safety, pharmacy, prescribing, advertising, or data concerns, there may be separate reporting routes depending on what happened in your case. This is not legal advice, and it is not an accusation against anyone. It is simply a patient and consumer update for people who may still be waiting. If you are affected, the safest thing is not to leave it too long. Save your evidence, check your payment options, and take advice through the proper routes where needed.

Little is currently known for certain, but if you placed an order or made a payment through the site and have been left out of pocket, I’d suggest contacting your bank or card provider as soon as possible to ask about refund, dispute, or chargeback options.

Please keep records of anything connected to your order, including payment confirmations, emails, order details, screenshots, tracking information, adverts, affiliate posts, social media posts, and website pages.

Several red flags had already been raised by members of the community before this happened. A tech-savvy member of the community has also preserved a record of the site, including examples of adverts and affiliate promotions that were used to promote it. Some of those promotions may raise serious questions around regulatory compliance and patient-safety responsibility, particularly where prescription-only medicines were being advertised online.

https://preview.redd.it/4r11uviykazg1.jpg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=996203165d4a626848b5c16f6b8b53e30ebace04

If you have been left out of pocket, you may also wish to report the adverts or affiliate accounts that promoted the company to the relevant platform for review. This is not about harassment or dogpiling; it is about making platforms aware of accounts that promoted a high-risk prescription service which has now been taken down.
This is not legal advice, and I am not making definitive allegations against any individual. It is simply a warning to anyone who may have ordered from Owl Clinic: act quickly, preserve evidence, contact your bank or payment provider, and consider reporting any adverts or affiliate posts that encouraged people to use the site.