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When I saw Drive-by Truckers a couple of years ago Patterson Hood stopped playing Steve McQueen to apologize for using the word "pussy" to insult Alec Baldwin. Has anyone else seen this happen?

If there's a stark generational divide on a given topic it doesn't take that long for a giant shift to occur in the wider culture, as soon as a generation starts dying off it happens quickly and that means that there isn't anyone left to hold a given position. Think about how rapidly marijuana decriminalization (at least) went mainstream as soon as the last of the pre-Boomer generations died, after that youthful marijuana use had been common for virtually all of society so there wasn't that much of a stomach to continue the war on drugs as in the 1980s (I'm obligated to go back to 1988 to find a presidential race where neither ticket contained a candidate that smoked pot in their youth).

So with that in mind I realized that this same principle applies to rock. It was THE dominant force for popular music from the mid-1950s until around 2000 even as hip hop began to challenge that dominance towards the last 10 or so years of that period. What this means is that Gen X is the last generation for whom rock is largely what they listened to, it was significantly less of a force for Millennials and even less for Zoomers.

And this isn't THAT far away from happening, the oldest Gen Xers are in their early 60s now, so we're going to start feeling this shift in about the next 15-20 years and really feel it in around 30 years.

Will we reach the point to where rock will have about as much cultural power as the tin pan alley stuff does today? Will the grandchildren of the people being born today only hear The Beatles in history class?

Ohio by Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young for me, specifically "tin soldiers and Nixon coming."

One of the most distinctive traits of Southern English is the pen/ pin merger, so back when my parents would play the song when I was a kid I thought it meant there were 10 of them. It wasn't until my parents gave me their old records until I actually looked at the lyrics sheet and realized it was "tin soldiers" as in a toy soldier.

Something Todd mentioned in the Zoot Suite Riot video is that for as bad as the name Cherry Poppin' Daddies is, it does need to be placed in the context that at the time there was a miniature arms race going on within punk and punk adjacent genres of who could come up with the most ridiculous, offensive, and stupid name. What are some of your favorites?

The Butthole Surfers (The band that started it all)

Dick Delicious and the Tasty Testicles (every time I hear someone complain about Cherry Poppin' Daddies I think of this band)

Drive-by Truckers (it's odd to look back on considering what they became, but early on they relished, albeit jokingly, in Southern stereotypes)

EDIT

Gardy-Loo, It's an El Duce side project that's even MORE offensive than the Mentors

It's actually The Three Great Alabama Icons for me

I'm from Phenix City, AL. Up until the mid-1950s Phenix City was run by the mob. Eventually a local lawyer named Albert Patterson ran for AG on a "clean up Phenix City" platform and won the Democrat primary (it was tantamount to election back then), but was murdered by the mob before the general election. His son John ran in his place and actually managed to break the syndicate. He used it as leverage to run for governor in 1958 where he ran as a staunch segregationist against a racially moderate judge named George Wallace.

Wallace lost and after that vowed he'd never let something like that happen again, running again in 1962 after reinventing himself as a staunch segregationist.

In an even stranger twist John Patterson later recanted his views on race and endorsed Obama in 2008.

Such is the duality of the Southern thing...