Marathon needs Forced PVE
Okay, here's my fucking issue with Marathon. There's too many consequences tied to PvE and almost no systemic consequences for initiating PvP. That's just it.
When you shoot your gun, that's a dinner bell. When you
shoot ads, that's a dinner bell. When you hit a POI, that's a dinner bell. When you open up a security room, that's a dinner bell. When you hit extraction, it's a dinner bell. People come running at you saying, “I'm gonna take your shoes.”
That can honestly stay, but it needs to be on the opposite side too.
There needs to be a reason to stop and think, “Hmm, do I really wanna engage in PvP? Is it really worth it?”
There needs to be that type of fucking tension in a PvPvE game instead of just running around killing everybody on the fucking map. You can do that, but there needs to be something in place for what happens afterward.
So here's what the fuck I mean by forced PvE.
If a team gets wiped or extracts, the environment should become more hostile to everybody.
Case in point: the dumbass husks that are on Dire Marsh Night. Instead of them just being giant ticks, make it where when you kill a runner, they come back as an anomalous husk that actually engages you in melee. Every time a team gets wiped, those runners respawn as husks.
The USEC? Make them more aggressive to everybody.
Make it so there's a reason for somebody to go, “Oh shit, do I really wanna do this?”
Another part of this is, since the enemies become way more hostile, they should drop more and better loot. Why the fuck not? If you're deciding to stay when things are getting worse, you should be compensated for that.
But at the same point, if you decide, “Hey, I'm gonna kill everybody on the map,” well, for one, people should know where you are.
If you drop two teams, you should show up on the map every now and then. Why not? If you have the balls to go and wipe a team or two then people should know where you're coming from.
The second part of that is, just throw a fucking indicator up whenever a team gets wiped or extracts. You don't even have to say which one it is.
It would really help because now people have to weigh their options.
Do I wanna finish this contract? Do I really wanna finish this team?
It works on both sides. It creates fucking tension.
Another thing too, to prevent people from just wiping teams and fucking leaving—because yeah, people can do that. You could be a roaming asshole, wipe two teams, and then just leave.
Make it so once you've wiped enough teams, you can't use a normal extraction anymore. You have to use a guarded extraction.
And take it a step further. Make that extraction cost Matterweave or some other material to activate.
Actually, fuck it. Spawn a Warden on the extraction.
You have to kill it to leave. And make that extraction loud as hell.
Why the fuck not?
You went around wiping teams. Nobody stopped you from doing that. I'm not saying turn down the dinner bells or prevent you from PvPing. You wanted to wipe two teams? Cool.
Now your extraction is a dinner bell.
You've got a Warden plus other ads to deal with, and you have to actually fight your way off the map.
And one more thing: when that team hits their extraction, everybody on the map should get a message:
“HOSTILE TEAM IS EXTRACTING.”
Fuck it. Why not?
Everybody else gets dinner bells for what they're doing. You open a security room, people know. You fight certain enemies, people know. You activate an extraction, people know.
So if you've been running around wiping teams and now you're trying to leave, everybody should know that too.
You still get to leave. You still get to keep everything you took if you successfully extract. But now you've got your Warden, you've got the ads, you've got your loud-ass guarded extraction, and everybody left on the map knows a hostile team is trying to get out.
You wanted PvP? Well, here's some fucking PvP.
You can still wipe people. Nothing I'm suggesting prevents you from doing that. But you don't get to wipe everybody and then casually walk out.
Good lord I'm waiting to hear the sweats complain about this