u/HanzoNumbahOneFan

To me the film was very entertaining and I liked the premise and overall story. And I still do when I rewatch the Abrams movies every now and then. I had some problems with the film, but overall thought it was quite good. However one of my friends is a big fan of Star Trek, mostly Next Generation. And he absolutely hated Into Darkness and said it was just a worse version of Wrath of Khan. And I've seen multiple comments throughout the years since the film's release sharing this opinion. I was curious if that is the only reason for the hate, it being a worse retelling. Or if there were other reasons people had that I am perhaps blind to? (It honestly might be my favorite of the three movies, which feels somewhat shameful considering the mass hate it seems to receive)

Side question, if I wanted to watch Wrath of Khan, how far of the original series do I need to watch? Or is the movie very much standalone, and you don't need to watch any of the previous series or films?

edit: I've started a war, I apologize.

So at the bakery I was at in France, when they made madeleines, they would put all of the butter in a large pot and purposely take the butter past the point of a normal browned butter (beurre noisette) until the milk solids actually burn black. They would then strain the butter through a chinois and make the madeleines as usual. There was no astringent/bitter flavor in the final product. Just a nice complex nutty flavor overall. And I was wondering if I could do the same thing for other pastries, but I also haven't seen the burnt butter used for anything else, so perhaps the flavors don't translate for those other things? I'm curious if anyone else has purposely used burnt butter for anything, whether it be madeleines or other pastries. My first idea was simply cookies. They are quite simple and I think would work well to taste the difference between the two.