u/Helpful-Mechanic-600

Image 1 — Madara or Sasuke, who has more DESTRUCTIVE POWER?
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▲ 6 r/Naruto

Madara or Sasuke, who has more DESTRUCTIVE POWER?

I'm NOT making a matchup, who would win in a fight, I'm just comparing the two, okay? In terms of destructive power.

It will be Juubidara with the Rinne Sharingan, and Sasuke will be him right after receiving half of Hagoromo's power.

This scenario will take place after Madara activates the Infinite Tsukuyomi. Zetsu doesn't betray him; he descends and begins to clash with Sasuke in terms of destructive power.

It doesn't make sense for me to use Sasuke with the Bijuu, since, in a scenario where Madara is still present, the Bijuu are literally still inside his body, so Sasuke doesn't have access to them.

Well, in terms of feats, The greatest feats of destruction that Sasuke displayed were achieved using his Perfect Susanoo.

Sasuke can definitely destroy mountain ranges with his Susanoo, and I'll also use Sasuke's feat from Boruto of obliterating a meteorite with his Chidori, in the movie The Last, Sure, Sasuke can also use Shinra Tensei, which would be much stronger than Pain's Shinra Tensei that obliterated Konoha.

Now, as for Madara, he truly demonstrated more feats of destruction, such as simply pulling two gigantic meteors towards Earth and causing an impact so great that it was felt by everyone. "Tengai Shinsei."

Madara also possesses an extremely powerful Perfect Susanoo, which is far, FAR more powerful than the Perfect Susanoo shown by his Edo Tensei form, due to the Ten-Tails.

Finally, if I were to list all the powers of the two, I would be here for a whole day.

Well, for me, the one with the most destructive power is Madara, without a doubt.

Because Madara possesses Truth-Seeking Orbs, he can do the same thing as Toneri, for example, such as forming a gigantic blade to cut a planet in half.

Madara has the Juubi's Bijuus Bombs, an explosion so devastating that it can be seen even in the curvature of the planet. (Image 3)

The power of the Ten-Tails, with a Jinchuriki, is amplified, so Madara could create an even bigger explosion than that.

Madara could spend the entire day throwing Juubi Bombs and his power would still remain intact.

Furthermore, Madara possesses Limbo, and in the game Naruto Storm 4, the shadows of Limbo can activate Susanoo, in conjunction with Madara himself.

Basically, all the powers that Sasuke has, with the exception of Ame-No-Tejikara, Madara also has, and even more; he has Truth-Seeking Orbs, Rinne Sharingan, more stamina, chakra, etc.

That's why I believe Madara has the most destructive power.

u/Helpful-Mechanic-600 — 12 days ago
▲ 45 r/Naruto

A very powerful forgotten Jutsu

"Gedō Mazō: Kyoryū Ranbu."

This Jutsu was only used once by Nagato; it is very powerful.

Because it is an intangible Dragon that consumes your soul the moment it passes through your body.

Since the Dragon is intangible, attempting to counterattack it is nearly impossible, whether with Fire Release, any elemental Jutsu, or barriers, It won't work since it's literally intangible.

In addition to being able to fly and having high speed, the dragon can chase you; it's not a straight-line attack, the dragon can follow you like a guided missile.

Okay, you dodged once, you dodged again, it doesn't matter, the Dragon will keep chasing you.

"Ah, but the user who tries to use this Jutsu will suffer the same damage that Nagato suffered."

Actually, there are a couple of reasons why the Gedo Mazo pierced Nagato's back with several Chakra Rods.

1: The Rinnegan doesn't belong to him, as we've seen; users of Dojutsu that aren't originally theirs suffer far more side effects than the original.

Nagato's Rinnegan is Madara's Rinnegan, therefore, the Rinnegan had far more side effects on his body than it would have on Madara's.

And the main reason:

Nagato had the bad luck of the Gedo Mazo being completely discharged; it had no power inside. The Gedo Mazo only became truly powerful and energized after the Akatsuki start to seal the Tailed Beasts inside it.

When Nagato summoned it, the Gedo Statue was empty, there was no power stored in the Gedo Mazo, and to perform such a powerful Jutsu, the Statue had to draw power from Nagato's vital energy to sustain itself, and the Statue did this by driving dozens of chakra rods into Nagato's back.

So, for example, White Mask Obito, who had the Tailed Beasts inside the Gedo Mazo, could perform this Jutsu, or Juubito, who has the Gedo Mazo inside him, could perform this Jutsu without suffering these permanent damages.

Madara was even better, since the Rinnegan belonged to him, and he had practically all the Tailed Beasts inside the Gedo Mazo. The Gedo Mazo was part of Juubidara's body, for example, so Madara could use it too, without problems.

u/Helpful-Mechanic-600 — 12 days ago
▲ 5 r/Naruto

Well, there are several myths about Madara's Limbo, and I'm going to list them all and explain why they're wrong.

1- "Madara and the Shadow of Limbo share damage."

For example, if a Shadow has its chest pierced by something, the Original Madara will automatically suffer the same chest damage and vice versa.

However, that is not true.

Notice that, in the second image, the Shadow of Limbo has a slightly injured arm due to Naruto's Rod, but Madara does not have this injury on his arm.

Also, the original Madara has a sword through his body, but the Shadow has no wounds on it's chest, only on it's arm that was hit by the Rod.

2- "The Shadows of Limbo can only use Taijutsu."

In the manga and anime, the Shadows of Limbo only used Taijutsu, but the databook says otherwise.

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“輪廻眼”を持つ術者とほぼ同等の能力を誇り、なおかつ不視の堅固なる守り身。 対抗する者も、これらに触れられれば反撃不能の抗い難き大敵である。

Translation: These shadows possess abilities nearly equal to those of the Rinnegan user himself (Madara), and on top of that, they are invisible, The strikes they unleash are overwhelming — once struck, even an opponent attempting to resist is rendered incapable of counterattacking.

The Databook states that the Shadows possess nearly the same abilities as Madara.

And in the Naruto Storm 4 game, the Four Shadows of Limbo activate the Perfect Susanoo at the same time, along with Madara.

3- "The Shadows of Limbo were easily stopped by Naruto's Clones."

Well, how can I begin? First, Madara's objective wasn't really to kill them both...YET; Madara only wanted to distract them while he activated the Infinite Tsukuyomi. So much so that he doesn't even stop to watch, or else he joins the fight against Naruto and Sasuke with his Shadows, he immediately flies closer to the moon to activate the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

After Sasuke undo the Susanoo, he looks around and says to Naruto:

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"気をつけろ… 奴の影が体に 四方を4体に 囲まれてるぞ"

“Be careful…His Four shadows are surrounding you from all directions."

Naruto then confirms:

わかってんよ! "I already know!”

And since Naruto's clones disappeared, it's obvious what happened; Limbo defeated the Shadow Clones, the manga doesn't visually depict the Shadows of Limbo, but it's clear that Naruto's clones didn't do anything effective against Limbo.

u/Helpful-Mechanic-600 — 14 days ago
▲ 12 r/Naruto

Well, the Human Path demonstrated the ability to extract the soul from the enemy's body, but many believe that this ability would be useless against stronger opponents, since, "Naruto resisted the Human Path from Nagato"

"All the characters that the Human Path worked are weak."

Well, the argument that Naruto resisted the Human Path, Naruto himself says that he's feeling his strength leaving his body, he's getting weak.

In other words, in a tug-of-war between Naruto and Nagato, Nagato would have won if Itachi hadn't arrived.

Kabuto himself shows no surprise that Naruto is resisting the Human Path for now; He is still completely confident.

And the other essential point is that Kabuto made Nagato use the Human Path the WRONG way.

Notice that Nagato is trying to pull Naruto's soul out through his stomach, which allows Naruto to resist for a while, he started an unnecessary tug-of-war.

Something that would NOT happen if Nagato pulled Naruto's soul out by the head, placed his hand on Naruto's head, Naruto's body would freeze, his mind would be read, and Nagato would pull Naruto's soul out.

And the second argument is that the Human Path only removed souls from weak characters.

Well, something many people ignore is that the Paths of Pain, in general, are WEAK AS HELL.

3- Kid Konohamaru Rasengan was enough to knock out the Naraka Path.

4 image- The Asura Path, which theoretically should be the most resilient, was destroyed by a small Rasengan.

5 and 6- Preta Path was defeated with a SINGLE punch from Naruto using the Frog Kumite.

Image 7: Deva Path is defeated by a Rasengan.

Many who only watched the anime will say that the Deva Path withstood a lot of attacks from Kurama, but in reality, in the manga, The Deva Path uses Shinra Tensei, fails, and retreats to form Chibaku Tensei.

And also, what's the sense of the Deva Path withstanding a bunch of attacks from Kurama, but be defeated by a Rasengan from Naruto in his base form?

And the Human Path is no exception; Pain's Human Path is also weak as heck.

So, the argument that the Human Path only worked against weak characters also requires keeping in mind that Pain's Human Path is incredibly weak as well.

u/Helpful-Mechanic-600 — 24 days ago
▲ 4 r/Naruto

Seriously, Madara had a myriad of powers in his arsenal that he could use, but I can literally count on my fingers how many he used in battle, but here I'll list a few that he didn't use but he could.

I'm going to list 6 powers.

1- Shinra Tensei.

Pain's Shinra Tensei wiped Konoha off the map, now imagine the level of a concentrated Shinra Tensei from Juubidara, a Juubi far weaker than the one Madara possessed, had planet-level chakra.

And the Ten-Tails' Jinchuriki controls the Ten-Tails' chakra much better than the beast itself.

Nagato almost died trying to perform a single Chibaku Tensei, while Madara literally rained down Chibaku Tensei far bigger than Nagato's, and he did it effortlessly.

In addition to using the Wood Style all over the planet.

2- Rikudou Perfect Susanoo.

Juubidara didn't use his Susanoo EVEN ONCE.

To give you an idea, the Susanoo that Sasuke used against Naruto in the Valley of the End was basically powered by part of the Tailed Beasts' chakra; it wasn't all of it because Sasuke tries to draw more chakra, but he can't because he's too tired.

Madara literally possesses the Ten-Tails, all the power of the tailed beasts combined; Madara could simply power his perfect Susanoo with Ten-Tails chakra, combined with the chakra of the Divine Tree that he absorbed.

3- Juubi Bomb.

Madara also didn't get to use the Ten-Tails' destructive power, which literally caused an explosion so large that the curvature of the Earth was visible.

Remember, the Ten-Tails that did this is much weaker than the Ten-Tails that Madara has inside him, and the Ten-Tails, as well as the other tailed beasts, are much stronger with a Jinchuriki.

4- Release the Ten-Tails from within his body and put on the Perfect Susanoo armor on the beast.

Juubito used this technique, the Ten-Tails Jinchuriki can simply release the Juubi from their bodies to have the Ten-Tails join them in battle.

Madara could literally just release the Ten-Tails from within him and put the Majestic Susanoo Suit on the Ten-Tails, just like he did with Kurama against Hashirama.

Even if Madara gets tired, which is almost impossible, he can simply absorb more chakra from the Divine Tree and retain his power.

5- Gedō Mazō: Kyoryū Ranbu.

This technique was used by Nagato with the Gedo Mazo; Madara can use this technique as well.

It is an intangible dragon that instantly consumes your soul if it passes by you.

The reason the Gedo Mazo pierced Nagato's back with chakra rods was due to two reasons: the Rinnegan didn't belong to Nagato, therefore it would have more side effects on him than it would have on Madara.

And the Gedo Mazo was literally empty when Nagato summoned it, lacking the power of the Tailed Beasts to imbue the Statue with power.

However, the Gedo Mazo is literally inside Madara; it's part of the Madara who possesses the Ten-Tails. The Rinnegan is originally Madara's.

Madara can also create this Dragon, and in much larger quantities, without being affected by the Gedo Mazo.

6- Use Truth-seeking Orbs more.

The Orbs contain all the Elements of Nature, including Yin and Yang. You can literally combine elements within the Orbs to create new elements, as well as transform the Orbs into practically anything.

Madara simply used the Orbs in staff form and fired a few Orbs at Guy, THAT'S ALL.

Now Imagine Madara using the Orbs at their maximum potential.

u/Helpful-Mechanic-600 — 24 days ago