u/HistorianPatriot1945

We can argue as much as we want but at least we aren't Anarcho-primitivists or Ingsocs

We are all from different ideologies, a lot of us are capitalists, socialists, communists, anarchists, libertarians, classical liberals, syndicalists, ancaps, etc. but we can all agree that we'd rather be under one of the others than Anarcho-primitivism or English Socialism, therefore can we unite just this once to talk about which one (AnPrim or IngSoc) is better (and also make fun of both of them first)

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 5 days ago

Wgat do y'all think of Corporatism?

Corporatism is an economic system that organises society into certain interest groups such as labour, business, or professional corporations which negotiate and collaborate with the state to set policy. It's often seen as an alternative to the subreddit's two main ideologies of Socialism and Capitalism. It was used by fascist states, though it's not necessarily fascist itself.

Remember, I'm talking about *'Corporatism'* not *'Corporatocracy'*, the two are very different.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 6 days ago

What are the worst versions of your own ideology?

Every ideology has that one variant that mainstream folk think is icky. What would you say are the worst authoritarian and liberterian version of your ideology? As a capitalist, I believe the worst auth form of capitalism is Corporatocracy and the worst lib form of capitalism is Anarcho-capitalism. What do y'all think?

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 6 days ago

Opinion on Fast Food Industry

Personally, I think that Fast Food is not a good thing to eat regularly. But oh boy is was it a genius way to make money. So tell me, would you open up a fast-food chain to make money? Do you think it's hypocritical when fast-food executives live very healthy lifestyles?

Yes, it can be seen as hurting others, but I believe that it's their fault if they eat it, not the company that sold their meals to them. Personally, I'd say there are better ways to make money but this is definitely a good idea for making profits, depending on which market you're going into, as certain specialities are already taken by established businesses (e.g. Mcdonalds, Wendy's and Burger King for Burgers, Pizza Hut, Papa John's and Domino's for Pizza)

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 6 days ago

Closeness with Old England.

Hi there, I'm just a guy from the British Empire, or as the hippies nowadays call it, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. After you colony trash left us in 18th century (I think... sorry we don't pay much attention to the things that don't matter (i.e. things that we don't own)) what on the Supreme Governor of the Church of England's earth did you all become after you all left us for the "republic".

Translation for American English speakers Gibberish speakers:

I've sometimes heard people say New England is the American region most similar to England but how true is this? Asking because I want to know which parts of the world are most similar to the British Isles.

Edit: No guys, that first paragraph wasn't serious, I just like acting like a stereotypical British guy.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 7 days ago

If you were transported back to the Russian Civil War, how would you changed your side.

Self-explanatory, if you were transported back to the Russian civil war what side would you be on? And how would you have changed it? What are your opinions on the biggest mistakes by each faction? what would you have done to circumvent the rise of the other side? How would you win the war? If you won the war what would you do after, would you let the other side go or have them executed/imprisoned?

And to keeps this relevant, how would you economically govern it? NEP or War Communism? Free Market or Autocratic Regulatory Capitalism? Also, specifically for the right-wingers on this sub, would you prefer a liberal government or a tsarist monarchy? Specifically for the left-wingers on this sub, would you support a socialist democracy or Bolshevik regime?

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 7 days ago

How do you navigate a capitalist society?

Society is very much capitalist. Nearly everything in the world is produced by capitalism and state-owned institutions still tend to be conservative in some way. For a socialist, how do you navigate life while knowing your smartphone was made by capitalist Labour, or vote in elections while knowing that most parties are capitalist, or buy food from commercial food chains without going against your own ethics? This especially applies to Western Socialists, the vast majority of products in the west have been created by capitalism, not socialism.

How do you justify this?

How do you somehow live your life avoiding these things without depriving yourself?

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 10 days ago

Opinion on military youth?

As someone who has once been in the ACF, what do socialists think of militarised youth groups? The UK has five militaru-themed youth groups, Army Cadets (ACF), Royal Air Force Air Cadets (RAFAC), Sea Cadet Corps (SCC), Combined Cadet Force (CCF) amd Volunteer Cadets. The first 3 are self-explanatory, the CCF is just military stiff as a while for school children and the Volunteer Cadets are also the navy like the SCC. They don't technically claim to be a military pipeline, but what was that founded as. Do socialists (specifically liberterian socialists) believe militarised youth organisations are compatible with the liberation from Capitalism and State? Asking because I want to know if a socialist society would keep these things, since I'm a defender of them.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 12 days ago

Socialists, what do you think of the state?

As I am aware, socialists have been pretty divided on the role of the state. The historically powerful form of socialism, state socialism (where the government centralises planning around itself, among other things) is usually what westerners think of when they hear the word socialism (The USSR followed this branch), but there's a branch of socialism called Liberterian Socialism, which rejects state control, vanguard parties, and hierarchical bureaucracies, instead advocating for workplace self-rule and grassroots democracy (prominent examples being Revolutionary Catalonia and the Free territory of Ukraine). Which one do you (the socialists in this sub) lean to?

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 13 days ago

Children don't deserve free milk.

Children over the age of seven don't deserve free milk from school because the money is better spent on stuff such as school buildings. Under-sevens should ideally still receive free school milk, and so would kids in special schools and kids with special needs, but we should take away all the milk from school-aged children. You aren't a true capitalist if you believe the state should give children milk in school, it is a waste of money to take care of children's greed for milk.

(No, this isn't serious, if you're British, you likely know)

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 13 days ago

If you were to govern the opposite society, how would you govern it without turning it into your actual ideology?

As the title suggests, capitalist's if you had to govern a socialist society (lets call it Socialburg) how would you govern it, socialists, if you had to govern a capitalist society (lets call it Capville) how would you govern it? The logical answer would be to switch it to the side that you actually support, but let's say you can't do that because your... head will explode, and your entire memory will be erased from society while your soul gets eleported in some state of limbo where you have to watch the Bee movie on repeat on repeat for eternity.

Personally, I'd keep the society socialist just because socialism > communism, and then concentrate employments into multiple state-owned enterprises that function just independently, and I'd encourage fractionalism in the ruling party so it functions like a multi-party system. In other words, I'd use the system to have a socialist state with a Liberal culture. I'd probably govern as a benevolent but cutthroat dictator to keep opposition to myself down

Bonus question: How would you handle diplomatic relations with the other side?

Personally, I'd increase military spending around them.

Other Bonus Question: If you do think you would fail, how would you try to escape having to watch the Bee movie for eternity?

I'd probably just pray that I eventually commit the sin of being a Bee movie fan.

4th question: Am I the only Thatcherite in this sub? I don't mean a British Reaganite, I mean an actual Thatcherite.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 14 days ago

Do any of you believe in obscure forms of socialism?

Do any of you believe in forms of socialism that aren't widespread or iconic?

If so, what kind? And why do you support it? I'd much like to know. Do any of them precede Marxism and Anarchism? If you don't support them, could you at least tell me any obscure forms of socialism? Can you give me any counter-arguments to them as well? And why is it not as famous as "mainstream" socialism? I'd also like a history of how it evolved and their relationship with Marxism and Anarchism.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 14 days ago

Pick one:

Blue (West Berlin): Live in a society where you can work hard for wealth and help others under your own free will instead of filtering it through a corrupt middleman called the government and support your family while having multiple employment options in single fields and having lots of choices when picking out products to purchase

Red (East Berlin): Let a bunch of commissars force everyone to have equal finance, stopping you from gaining more money while they establish a dictatorship to keep freedom down as your neighbours on the other side.

Edit: Please don't take this seriously, I'm not actually being genuine, I just wanted to see what shitpostong was like since I'm new to Reddit and didn't mind doing it through politics. These seriously aren't my reasons for being capitalist.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 15 days ago

What's the difference between socialism and communism

As a capitalist, I've always wanted to know the difference. I grew up thinking they were synonyms, then I thought that socialism was statist communism, but the British education system says it's a middle ground that believes in welfare, but that's what I consider social democracy.

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u/HistorianPatriot1945 — 15 days ago