u/Immediate_Wealth_558

Action over words is in every situation. Remember when Liz said actions over words and her fans preach it too?

So then why would u trust a 3 second clip of Liz saying I love my son?

They seem to take that narrative only into men

It may not even be true. I will not say something is a 100% fact bc I’m not a God

But I know narcissistic mothers… wayy too well… on social media my friends mother (my mom was also narcissistic at some time) was constantly posting her on social media, saying the sweetest things possible like the sweetest on how much she loves her… and stuff

Yet whenever I came for a sleep over there my friend and her mother always
Argued

Not normal arguing

Narcissism kind of arguing

Mother gaslighting her into bringing her money because she owes her since she brought her into the world
Mom comparing her to other girls
Mom saying she has the right to be about herself now because she raised her enough ( she was still a teen .. my friend wasn’t even 18 at that time)
Mom stealing her money

Mom cursing her, wishing her all kinds of things when she didn’t got her way.
And always turning the back on her

This is just a glimpse I have way too much stories about narcissists mothers and how they are.

Seriously
Just because someone says
I love my child

Doesn’t mean it’s proven as true

LMFAOO I hate posting on Reddit but I’m gonna defend some girls out there

First of all
NO WOMAN IS HATING HER

some do
Some make it seem on TikTok like she’s supposed to be stable 24/7
And yes I agree in the world there is lots of hateful women I have EXPERIENCE

BUT MOST OF THE WOMEN I SEE ARE ONLY GIVING HER A REALITY CHECK
THATS NOT HATE

But yes
To people like this responsibility is an insult
Saying you did a mistake like this is an insult it’s hate

SHE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN SAVED IF SHE LISTENED TO OTHER WOMEN
SAVEDDD
and she’s roasting their appearance

And people say
She’s a good person

Gosh Lord forgive me for judging anybody but the people that actually gave her reality check in a way where she would actually be saved needs to be defended

She herself on videos was being aggresive to people giving them a reality check calling them a clown

Why is it so bad when others do it to her?

Almost no one treats him as a human I know the fans are trying to do good but they get shocked for an example when they see him being a human like cussing, or being freaky and stuff. I know he is seen as saint but he should deserve to be treated like a person we would love

I’m happy MJ is getting the love the recognition cuz deep down he deserves it so much

But. The way fans say natural talent born with it God given and stuff😔I believe in spirituality but that man worked obsessively not hard only but obsessively calling it natural is an insult cuz the work was brutal, maybe he might have some genetics talent but the hard work that then showed as results in his peaks was his work not natural purely

Also they try to make him perfect in everything or make up theories and make it as a fact when it’s only a theory

I’m not gonna sit here pretending like I’m a perfect fan of Michael Jackson cuz I’m new since the movie too and he awakened something in me so much and I read books about him and stuff and I always look in his music his words and I love him so much and I love the fans too but most of the time they’re not taking him as a human😭 or they add up things in stories like in every story or fact they say they will add that he cried.

He was so sensitive because he felt so much but there is no actual fact he cried over everything

Like I’m so brutally sensitive and we don’t cry over everything u know.

Some of us can’t cry at all and most of us suck it in and crash when it’s way way way too much and that happens in a long time,

some just cry over everything and just because he is sensitive doesn’t mean he is the third type to cry over everything, we’re all different he might have or no.

but there is no fact that he cried of small stuff people say in the stories

And Michael as much as sensitive he was, he was a beast. Not just a poor innocent perfect legend people portray him as he was brutally smart and a beast in his work. Cmon that man once collapsed rehearsing

Overall because he is dead, they believe he’s perfect because he’s frozen you know?

But no no no no no human no matter how much humble are u is not not messy, judgy, or sometimes angry and raw and awful

because it’s in just our human nature just as we always and I mean always we will look in validation always a part of us will it’s the same with MJ and literally everyone else…

They make up theories about saving kids from Epstein , if they believe the theory that’s okay but why make it a fact on the whole internet if it’s not confirmed or proof heavy enough yet?they don’t mention most of the time they don’t mention it’s a theory I seen most mention it as a fact…?

Also they go on fights in comments a lot because of other people that are fans of someone else for an example beyonce or prince they will argue hard for every icon or someone can do a MJ move on TikTok for fun and the comments are just rude like you didn’t do it like him and stuff

They even do it to James Brown and that’s crazy considering Michael’s biggest inspiration was James

He wasn’t a perfect God saint but he definitely had better humanity than most

and gave the world so so much art and his obsessiveness was extreme

while now it’s mostly all about money and people rlly don’t give much effort into art anymore.

It’s just that every influencer sings now for the sake of money,

Michael Jackson hits harder than everyone because he rlly did hit his life harder than everyone and he made his music very very impactful very.

Nowadays it’s just you know fun or boring but not so much impactful.

Or I also think most of the spiritual gurus use him for money, they say I’m a psychic reader and this is what I know about Michael and it’s all the projections fans put into him. There is only very very few who have done true on him bc it was only once and they don’t do requests for Michael Jackson bc they want him rest not to take money off him.

Also the fans make way too much jokes about his abuse, like sending a pic of joe Jackson in every Michael Jackson inspired video like where someone sings very good

and they send the meme u know I don’t know for me it’s not funny because the trauma is so disturbing.

It made Michael for the rest of his life searching for validation through work where he sacrificed his health

yeah I know people cope with trauma by joking and I’m not 100% sure that Michael would not like it, but you know if you’re not Michael… you shouldn’t rlly joke about it it’s just…it’s the same as if someone was making jokes off my trauma now and heavily like a little bit is fine but it’s too much in the comments

Also I’m not a perfect fan either and I want this advice to be spread for others