Tomorrow is the deadline

Tomorrow is the deadline

Its me, internet detective

I'm so tired.

So as everyone is aware by now, the victim's (said as a collective) have set a deadline for when qwel should apologize, that time being August 20th. Tomorrow. This was announced by chip on twitter and later confirmed it's really a nothing deadline.

Now, really i believe this is a big nothingburger threat. Just applying pressure for a whole lot of nothing just to stir up things again. What makes me believe this is just an act of pressure is gary pointing the finger at getting no response from qwel yet. Ok? Its been this for the last 3 months, why would now be different especially if there is possible legal action on the table?

Going more away from the deadline on this, but personally i think chip is fine in this. From the tone of their tweets, they didn't even want to do this in the first place and it was a deadline set by the other victims instead, leaving it to chip to be the messenger. The only "bad" thing they've done, and using that loosely because it was during the heat of everything, was calling for tiktok support to defend void when someone in tiktok pointed out void releasing how to get qwel's name, as well as denying it as bad entirely.

Anyway, I'm still taking my break so it's a shorter report than usual. Let's see what happens tomorrow, but my money is on a whole lot of nothing.

TL;DR: foreboding presence, it's probably nothing, rodger is going back to sleep.

u/Inner_Evil — 1 day ago

About the Spark Morningstar doc

Its me. Internet detective.

This one I've been working on for a few days overall, and it's gone through a few revisions as i thought more and more about it all, so bear with me.

So an update on the new doc stuff. To summarize what it is, it's a guy who wanted to "put an end" to the whole drama by posting a ton of screenshots of private conversations that were never consented to being shared from both victims directly and everyone else involved. Well, as we saw, the drama was already in a state of peace after qwel's second response. This was all torn away from us over what i can only assume is an attempted act of self proclaimed righteousness and superiority.

After thinking about it more, talking to people over it all and seeing everything that i have now that I'm a bit more calm, I'm now leaning towards this all being an unfortunate series of events that led to a sloppy jump to conclusions. Many people were involved, but not nearly as much as i was led to believe. Instead, i think it all lies on Spark. He manipulated the situation from the jump, and everyone fell for it. He preyed on the unrest that came from the entire victims vs qwel situation to try and paint a narrative that was filled with malice towards everyone involved on both sides, from targeting individuals to taking screenshots of chats used in a private setting that was not intended to be used in a place of bad faith. It's my belief that's why he so quickly retracted everything after getting called out for it and replacing that document with a half hearted apology.

What's more disgusting, i learned i personally was brought up by Spark. He wanted to "recruit" me too, but because i ignored the initial message he couldn't get in contact with me, thank God.

I've gotten way more involved than i ever wanted to by now, and I've made mistakes assuming the worst from everyone when i saw my name being brought up into this all which sent me into an irrational panic. I want to apologize to everyone, for showing that panic and leading it to be inaccurate in the grander scope of things.

For that reason, I'd like to announce I'm taking a temporary leave from a lot of this. This isn't good to continue for anyone's health. The stress from reporting everything, as well as looking so deeply into every word said from everyone, it's exausting and it has led to me feeling awful for the way I've personally been overlooking the situation as a whole.

Remember, just because someone disagrees, that doesn't make them your enemy. I would advise everyone to keep that calm and level mindset regarding everything. Instead of insulting, brigading, and hating people of different opinions, share your own view and why you believe it. Whether they understand or not, it is not your problem. You extended that olive branch to be understood, and that's all that matters.

For the sake of archival, I'm adding a screenshot of the apology from Spark, as the entire thing fits into a single screenshot, for you to come up with your own opinions about it all. Normally i would put a backup of the doc itself i found as well, but i feel it would be inappropriate and disrespectful towards everyone involved and i just want to forget about all of this, if only for a little while.

u/Inner_Evil — 11 days ago

Qwel has stepped down

Its me, internet detective.

What a way to wake up.

So, earlier today on August 6th, qwel shadow drops a new statement regarding everything. Its much more specific than the last one, overall, but still vague as a whole.

It starts out admitting people need apologies, and gets directly into that. Due to the nature of everything it needs to be vague but it directly states qwel wishes to help those affected by a certain someones acts. The one that should've been imprisoned already? Yeah that one. She also continues with that to extend towards everyone who is hurting right now over it all.

Qwel goes on to say she will, from this point until another unspecified time, take a step down from her position as lead for her own personal security and safety and for those affected to help them get the closure they wish.

Next qwel goes on to state that some of which was said is false and/or only telling a skewed part of the story to paint her as a monster. She does take accountability for her shortcomings back in the day and wishes to move past it to better herself as a leader and as a person.

The continuation of posts that will be done on her socials are now going to be done primarily and only by staff, as they care deeply for the IP and the studio as a whole goes much deeper than just the one person.

Now for the Cease and Desists, we know two were sent out, qwel confirming it was not done by her hand and done solely at the whim of the legal team as they anticipated the harassment and hate that would come from the situation as a whole. The legal team has now been advised to not press on this unless the harassment continues.

She then goes on to state that legal action has strongly considered continuing to pursue one individual, a man who met and befriended qwel at 15 when they were in their 20s, due to their targeted attacks and enticed harassment. This, however, is left in the hands on the legal teams discretion whether or not to pursue.

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Now, with all that said and done, let's see what the victim's have to say about it.

Gary expresses joy that the legal side has been stopped and praises that qwel is stepping down and holds out hope to get personalized, private apologies.

Joji is disappointed in the fact it was once again a blanket apology, but greatful nonetheless.

Sam is entirely unconvinced, equating this as continued PR.

Void. Still account deleted.

Obot is happy qwel is stepping down to take accountability, while also holding out hope private apologies will come in the future.

Bonus response: Duck Adam who is still being his ragebait, clout chaser self. Ok bro.

Now, my thoughts. I feel this is the end. For a while at least. With [unspecified person] likely going to have the legal team thrown at him, things should calm down and be fully stable once the word gets out. Now, at least, it's a time for respite.

I wanted to thank you all for joining along in this journey, whether we agreed or disagreed, whether being corrected or correcting, i am honored to say i enjoyed every moment of it. Remember, even if someone does not share your views, that does not make them your enemy. I've met quite a few people out of all this and they were all a great pleasure to have gotten to know, agree with, debate, and respectfully disagree with.

TL;DR: qwel blanket apologizes with promise of personal later, someone might be getting sued for their actions, victims have varied thoughts on it, rodger is ready for a nap

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u/Inner_Evil — 14 days ago

The victims are deleting accounts

It's me, internet detective back again but a little late this time.

This will be probably my last one for a while with the way things are playing out.

So, after finally getting an official, endorsed update about the situation regarding insight of the company and nature of Cease & Desists as seen here in Poko's post on Twitter and then later confirmed by Aaron, a director of consumer goods who works in BCS, allowing it to have truth behind its words both here in Twitter and here in Reddit, the victim's have since started to private/delete/distancing from their public accounts. While this may be a coincidence for some, it does seem suspicious for others. Which is which, however, I'll let you decide.

As of the time writing, the following accounts affected are

• Joji, stepped away due to health concerns and transferred edit permissions of the Collective Testimony to another currently unknown person.

• Void, fully deleted Twitter account. Edit 2: theres now more to this, his original testimony from 2024's rox incident has also been privated.

• Obot, while not a victim directly stated in the testimonies, I'd like to include them as they were important to the victims. Privated account after crashing out in Twitter comment threads, left for mental health leave. EDIT: he has now returned, posts now say he actually privated due to an imposter using his name.

• Chip, stepped away due to wishing to distance themselves from the situation.

You might be asking why I'm reporting this, I'm doing so purely for archival reasons as well as raising an eyebrow at the unusual timing that they were all active up until Aaron had confirmed the legitimacy of Poko's post.

Despite everything, i do wish them all the best of health and recovery. While i myself may disagree with their methods and conduct, i don't wish for any harm to come to them in any form.

TL;DR: post gives insight on common misconceptions, multiple victims distancing simultaneously, rodger read the newspaper

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u/Inner_Evil — 21 days ago

Question about this

So, I'm trying to make sense of how this is a contradiction.

Qwel did admit that the august call happened, but she goes to say "He had convinced me that this was not as it appeared and I didn't have the maturity to realize I was being manipulated" and we can clearly see this lining up with the last line rox says "But as I've told you, and I'll say to X here, I obviously vow to never draw shit like that ever again, and I myself don't support it. This was only drawn for this person." Which is where qwel would mistakenly believe his words.

But thats where i get confused, how is it a contradiction when she says that in October she got new, irrefutable proof of his acts? The two instances aren't the same act, her giving rox benefit of the doubt in august, then proven in October of his continued actions that aren't the same act he did in august.

How does this contradict her story at all? He does bad thing in august, qwel believed his excuse foolishly, then in that time between he did another thing which broke the camels back and made qwel saw through his lies.

I'm just... not seeing a contradiction in this at all, it all falls in line with her timeline. Any ideas?

u/Inner_Evil — 25 days ago

Void and Joji debunk our questions

Its me, internet detective.

I'm having so much fun watching people get heated over that. Anyway.

So, earlier yesterday joji and void shared a discord interview with a YouTuber named Nivouty, and those screenshots have now been released of their conversation regarding questions found within the Russian scammer doc.

The interview starts with asking about the scammer doc itself, joji then explains it is most likely the same group of scammers that tried to attack it the first time. The whole "you have cancer so you're invalid" scammers from the first time, if you know about all that. Outside that, it doesn't really talk more in detail about it directly outside "the internet tore it apart, and they privated it". Joji later states that the scammers were harassing them with threats and goading them into engagement.

Next, the question regarding qwel "downplaying" the inititial allegations from 2 years ago. Joji leads to the now infamous we endure and move on screenshot. That's it. Nothing to dispute or discuss here.

Now onto the payment processes, or lack of shown payments in the first place. Joji continued on to say to share that would be after it signed its NDA (which would then be guaranteed as an NDA breach) as that was during that time frame and since leaving BCS, wouldn't be able to retrieve it anyway.

Time for the Cease & Desist talk. The reason joji (and void but they've been silent up to now) won't show the letter itself is because it shares private and personal information regarding themselves and the fear that sharing it would constitute a breach of their NDA. I understand that caution, and quick side fact, an NDA does have the leniency of 5 years after the employee has left the company, so that's understandable to fear. I do have an opinion to say on that but i'll get to it later.

After this, joji and void go on to say they are not financially equipped to fight this in court and equate this as bringing a SLAPP suit (to simplify, it's that bad use of cease & desist where a company would use it to try and scare the victim's. Example: the Roblox vs Schlep case)

Now onto the leak of Qwel's real first name and why it was included. Disclaimer: for the sake of anonymity i won't share it here directly, but it was shared by both rox and within the original document with qwel's first name within screenshots used. Void goes on to say that qwel's name has been known for years, linked within her instagram/steam account. Joji and void go on to say that the name shown was a shortened nickname of her real name. Void then... can't believe this, says her FULL INFORMATION can be found on (Edit 2: removing how exactly he leaked it. Doesnt feel right to leave it public). I'm sorry to break character on this one but what the actual fuck is wrong with you? Nickname or not its EXTREMELY irresponsible to share that, and then to double down by giving a way to find her FULL LEGAL NAME?! Jesus fucking christ dude. I don't think her name was public knowledge, even if "easily accessible" in the first place.

Thats the end of it, here's the interview video. EDIT: here's Joji's thread about it as well since i felt it was relevant.

So cool, I'm glad this answered a few questions, but onto what i said I'd bring up later. A Cease & Desist, while i understand can have personal information and the fear of breaching NDA further, only would be a breach of NDA if it discussed trade secrets, client names, or financial data, all of which can be redacted or otherwise censored (back to earlier example, schlep releasing his while censoring his full legal name) to further the validity in your claims that this would be a SLAPP suit, so it would actually be in your benefit to show a censored scan of the C&D, no?

TL;DR interview answers questions, C&D hidden understandably, void giving qwel's real name, rodger needs coffee

u/Inner_Evil — 1 month ago
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Ex team manager Joji's doc is proven manipulative.

Its me, internet detective once again.

Not even a full day since i last had something to say, there has been another Google doc dropped.

The doc is in Russian and translated to English, but even with that usual translation scuff it points out many inconsistencies, misleading words, emotionally charged statements, and direct manipulation on what was stated in Joji's doc.

After reading through it all, there are a few grammatical errors but few and far between as well as that can be attributed to translation scuff.

Overall, it throws a LOT of testimonies into question based on how their wording is used to manipulate mindsets and possibly facilitate a smeer campaign by pointing out and providing direct comparison of the statements and intentions.

Link provided.

This was shared to me by U/Worried_Leek8427 they are an amazing person to be so willingly open to share this side of the story.

Doc was created by twitter user @Rihamchadi77

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1l3n0x9O1iMd-UJTYEFlKfTYwMJ05wrFkfDPOXXvA0sU/mobilebasic

EDIT: added credit to who shared the doc with me

EDIT 2: added credit to doc creator

u/EnvironmentThen_2243 — 1 month ago

President of BCS, Joey, makes an announcement

TLDR; legal team say no talk, so they can't. Also quality of life update tomorrow (floor 25 break room, nice)

u/Inner_Evil — 1 month ago

Breaking down Qwel's statement

Its me, internet detective back at it again.

This will be a long one because its a step by step breakdown of the subtext within the statement, broken down by paragraphs. Do keep in mind its vague because it has to be. Legal silencing is in effect so names and events were not said directly in the statement as they do have to be intentionally hidden because a direct call out will throw the entire legal action out to the wolves.

Also a warning, no TLDR for this one because its simply too much to summarize.

Paragraph 1: introductions. Explains they know they have been quiet as well as expressing trouble for having to bring the situation public.

Paragraph 2: continued introduction. Expresses how this situation has got out of hand and openly admitted to how if a statement was issued sooner it would simply be an emotionally charged word soup with no actual merit behind it. They took the time they needed to consult team as well as professionals on how to move forward.

Paragraph 3: backstory of rox and her relationship. She entered online at 14, met rox around 15-16 and through childish ignorance believed in trusting them. They became friends at this time.

Paragraph 4: trigger warning for future events.

Paragraph 5: the drawing. August 2024 qwel saw the infamous drawing rox had made. Rox claimed it was peer pressure and qwel, believing his claim, pushed it aside in hopes his words were true. This was not the case, he successfully gaslighted her into believing it was ok. She expresses regret in not seeing through his lies earlier.

Paragraph 6: October 2024 qwel is given undeniable proof of roxs acts. She acted immediately, firing him by the next day. She had to stay in partial contact due to company assets being held by the offender, once those company assets were fully transferred contact went fully silent.

Paragraph 7, 8, 9: Theyre short so lumping together. Between the firing and the time of company asset acquisition is two months. She confirms that those two months were not between gaining knowledge and firing, but instead firing and asset acquisition. Paragraph 9 is stating that its ignorant and harmful to everyone involved to believe that misinterpretation.

Paragraph 10: the apology. Qwel directly says she is deeply sorry to any victims who have been hurt by the acts of rox. She recognizes the strength it takes to come forward and is willing to shoulder the guilt of her own trauma alongside them.

Paragraph 11: seriousness. Qwel expressed joy in what the game of dandys world has become and is proud of both her team of over 100 members and the community that has grown from it.

Paragraph 12: work goes on. The team has continued to work, despite the controversy. Qwel herself knows shes the spearhead who will take the brunt of community backlash no matter what, but still expresses that this a team project so her inaction will not prevent the game from being further developed.

Paragraph 13: legality. The stories shared may not be the full scope, or an outright lie. Legal action has been taken and will be shared at a future time to give a more accurate and exact timeline of events and actions.

Paragraph 14: finale. Qwel states remorse for who has become disappointed by recent events and will continue to grow, both as a leader and creator. She also recognizes she has made mistakes and wishes to work past them.

End of statement. The outlash against "lacking apology" is false, paragraph 10 is the apology. The legal action is not "silencing" as its an attempt to bring a full story to the narrative instead of just one sided truth or blatent lie. This is much deeper than it seems. Neither side is righteous in this. There is no villain, and there is no hero. A villain doing good and a hero doing bad are both the same action at the end of it all, so it must be taken with skepticism on both ends.

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u/Inner_Evil — 1 month ago

Qwel has issued Joji a Cease & Desist

Its me, internet detective reporting in

Earlier today Joji tweeted that they received a C&D as of july 13th.

From reading their tweet, they weren't given a reason, however its kinda obvious as well as a legal C&D MUST state the infraction, this being breach of the signed NDA during their tenure at BlushCrunch.

When getting into the legality of a NDA, it can not be broken unless stated in the terms on the contract, or if the effects discussed are federal law breaking. Joji's document did not implicate any federal laws being broken. Instead, and for the sake of putting bias aside, i will treat it all as truth even should i believe otherwise. The document implicates qwel as a bad friend towards joji, as well as having knowledge at least 2 months prior of the predatory acts of Rox. Neither of these are federal crimes, as knowledge of a crime does not allow the other to act out justice or it will be classified as vigilantism.

So from the start, the NDA was broken outside of specified terms and limitations thus giving legal clarity for a Cease & Desist, or worse, a lawsuit.

This does also answer a few other questions we've had in this time of silence. Those being 1. yes qwel must have been silent due to legal silencing advised by lawers. 2. The doc did not show any federal crimes in their content. And 3. Joji's tweets have shown malice towards qwel and continue to try and rewrite the narrative towards only hate for qwel by claiming impossible scenarios such as not being told what the Cease & Desist is pertaining.

This whole thing stinky, but form your own opinion.

TLDR; NDA non-legally broken, Cease & Desist issued, rodger read law books

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u/Inner_Evil — 1 month ago