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Have you ever wondered… what Toriho’s identity actually was?(and I would not speak of it by following the footsteps of doratubers)

He appears as an odd old man on a hill, gives Nobita a magic berry, then flies away. Later he’s a evil bird spying on the heroes, then a robot emerging from a desk to ​ retrieve the Dream Machine. White eyes. No pupils. No explanation.

His actions totally conflict: promotes the cassette to Nobita, serves Odorome, plots against other generals of odorome and possibly odorome himself ​, but vanishes before the final battle.(though this is based on the idea that the old man,the bird and robot are same entities)

So what was he really?

A villain? A salesman? A malfunct AI? A hidden mastermind? A dream character? Or just a random collection of eerie scenes the writers never bothered to connect?

And here’s where it gets even stranger…

A recent poll voted Odorome as the biggest Doraemon movie villain. Fair enough dark powers, terrifying presence, kills Nobitania and Shizukaria(atleast once).

But think about it

Odorome was only dangerous because Nobita made him real.

Nobita: ·Used the Dream Machine to make himself as the hero

He snuck into Shizuka’s room while she slept to attach an invisible antenna. (​ I thought he wouldn’t do it in a movie, but he did. He did the same to Gian and Suneo.) Inserted Shizuka as the princess without her consent

· Pressed the reality-merge button with doraemon, turning fantasy into a lethal · He did the same to Gian and Suneo making them sidekicks. They got turned to stone felt all that terror and were exhausted at school the next day. · Shizuka is forced into the princess role. At one point she protests,but the script and antennae overrides her – she cannot break character.She died in there and was only saved by dragon sweat.

Without the dragon’s sweat — and Nobita’s mother/father waking nobita and doraemon by turning off the machine — they could all have died.

And heres the worst part Gian Suneo and Shizuka had no idea any of this was happening. They didnt choose to be there. They didnt know about the antenna. They didnt press the button.

Nobita and Doraemon made that choice for them.But all three of them experienced physical exhaustion and deaths.

So who really caused the danger?

Odorome, the programmed dream villain?

Or Nobita, whose choices created the disaster in the first place?

We all love the happy Nobita × Shizuka ending. But looking back now… did Nobita truly earn that happy ending? Night after night, Shizuka’s sleeping mind was force‑fed a narrative in which Nobita was heroic,— the kind that, in any real‑world psychological framework, would be classified as grooming or brainwashing. Or did he just take it?In stricter terms he willingly or unwillingly manipulated Shizuka's thoughts about him!

And where does Toriho fit into all this?

Was he the real mastermind, a symbolic observer, or simply pointless?

Fellow fans — what do you think Toriho really was, and who was the true “villain” of the story?Toriho,Odorome or Nobita?

Let’s talk. 👇

I've always loved Doraemon and its songs. They were really great.

What I liked about Doraemon songs was how good the lyrics, background music, and composition were. They were well done and emotionally complete, so much so that even the instrumental or karaoke versions felt complete and self-sufficient. They didn't (and don't) even need a voice to be great.

But the more I listened to them, the more I noticed that some songs felt like they were trying to say something, yet the voice couldn't fully express it. That didn't mean the vocals were bad. Sometimes the melody seemed to want more, and the vocal line didn't deliver. Many of these songs made me think that they needed an emotional performance, stronger control on a long note, a smooth slide, or a subtle touch that would make a phrase feel more natural. When those qualities weren't there, the vocal could feel a bit flat, light, or emotionally empty(s. The instrumental usually carried the song, while the voice sometimes felt like a sketch. I felt this in the original Japanese tracks, where a song seemed like it wanted to be more, but the vocal tone didn't take it there. Anyone who knows music (or has learnt it), whether formally or informally, may understand this feeling.

In the Hindi versions, I noticed a different problem. The focus seemed to be on dubbing dialogue rather than carefully adapting songs into the language. This might explain why many great Doraemon songs weren't dubbed. The musical side seemed less important. The phrasing could feel stiff. The rhythm could feel forced. Sometimes it lacked the smoothness the songs deserved. Given India's pool of talented playback singers, it felt like a shame that these songs weren't given the same level of musical care in the dubbed versions.

I say all of this with no disrespect. I'm someone who listens to a lot of music, from classical to folk to modern film music. I think that when a song is great, it's natural to want the singer's voice to be great too. That's not because I don't like the songs. It's because I love them and I wanted them to be the best they could be.

I grew up in a home where small musical details were always noticed. So my ear was trained early to recognise what a voice can and cannot do. That's probably why some of these songs occasionally made me feel a bit uncomfortable. To most people, these songs might have sounded fine, but to me sometimes the singer's voice didn't sound as good as the music. I even heard family members jokingly ask, "Is this really the singer?" (Obviously, they weren't Doraemon fans anyway.) To be honest, I understood that reaction. The song itself may be very good. It just sometimes felt like it deserved a different voice.

1. In the first manga, Doraemon is fat, a bit taller than Nobita, and his proportions shift constantly. In the TV Asahi series, he's short, his head is bulgier, his body is slimmer, and he looks consistent. Friendly. Recognisable. The rough sketches became a proper character.
2. After Doraemon arrives, Sewashi — the future great-great-grandson who delivers Doraemon like an Amazon package — actually comes along with them to see Nobita's city, saying, " Let me see it,I came here all the way from the future. In the TV series (as far as I have seen), Sewashi drops Doraemon off and goes straight back to the future. He's there in the manga for a while, and then he isn't there for even that short period of time.
3. 3.Jaiko’s character also changed a lot if you compare first manga to later Doraemon. In the first manga, Jaiko is drawn more like a typical “bad future” symbol — rougher, less appealing, almost like the writers wanted Nobita (and readers) to instantly feel the divide between her and Shizuka, as if marrying Jaiko itself was proof life went wrong. She felt less like a person and more like a warning sign. But later, Jaiko became much calmer, more talented, and honestly far more authentic than just a forced bad ending. She is shown as a manga artist, creative, emotional, and actually human instead of some cruel destiny punishment.
4. In the first manga chapter, Sewashi sets no fixed date, no auto-timer, no Time Patrol restrictions, etc., which tell us how long Doraemon will stay. Doraemon just stays. Indefinitely. In the TV adaptations, there are multiple versions of him leaving and returning — most famously, Stand By Me Doraemon, which made a lot of adults cry in a cinema, and we feel no guilt about it.

(Also, I am acknowledging that, in both the manga and the anime, none of them ever grow up. )
5.Now the future diary(Vol 1,Chapter 1).

The diary shows what happens to Nobita without Doraemon. Every year is a disaster.
1979 (as per diary) — fails university entrance exams.
In reality- the TV Asahi series launched and became one of the biggest franchises in Japan. Then Nobitas Dinosaur came out in 1980 and — this is actually on IMDb, not some random fan claim — Spielberg cited it as an influence on E.T., The Goonies and Hook.
1988: Nobita cannot find a job and starts a company using his father's money.

In reality (the 1988 movie): Doraemon takes out a game machine. Nobita dresses up as Sun Wu Kong. Monsters from Journey to the West escape out of the game machine and into the real world. All five of them — Nobita, Doraemon, Shizuka, Gian, and Suneo — actually save the world. Nobita, who was denied the hero's role(wukong's role) in his school's theatre , ends up performing genuine heroics in actual reality — even though the threat was a result of entirely their own fault.

1993** — the company burns down in fire.
In the 1993 movie *Nobita and the Tin Labyrinth*, Doraemon is captured, tortured, and dumped into an ocean on planet Chamocha. Nobita gets sent home, but he Doraemon's spare pocket, locates the broken Doraemon with Shizuka and uses a Mini Dora to fix him—no help from Doraemon here(he was broken, and Nobita helped him and rescued him on his own). The diary said fire and ruinn; reality said Nobita navigated an alien planet to pull his best freind out of the sea.
1996:
Diary says: Bankruptcy and Debt collectors. A laon that follows the family to the 22nd century. Reality (Movie - Nobita and the Galaxy Super-Express): Nobita discovers the train tickets. He becomes the primary hero. He is the fastest gunslinger in the Wild West world. He snipes Yadori parasites out of his freinds' bodies. He lands the final shot on the Yadori King. (Meanwhile, in the real world of 1996, Hiroshi Fujimoto (Fujiko F. Fujio) passed away. People begin whispering about creepy urban legends—mysterious "lost epsiodes" of Doraemon.)

Conclusion:

In the first episode, Sewashi claims Nobita's future is ruined by marrying Jaiko. However, I deduce that Nobita's future is actually gloomy with Shizuka. Since Nobita would not have been motivated if told the truth, the narrative withholds the real outcome to maintain stakes*.S*ince no canon material ever depicts a marriage to Jaiko, the entire premise is invalid. 

1. Nobita once started fading when his father nearly married another woman, showing his existence depends entirely on a fixed, unchangeable family tree.
2. Since probability is closed and lineage can't be altered without erasing him, marrying Jaiko instead of Shizuka would have already caused him to vanish.
3. Therefore, Sewashi's claim that Nobita marries Jaiko in the future must be a lie—Nobita was always destined to marry Shizuka and produce Sewashi's line.

I am not here to prove anything. Please don't downvote, pls.

Hey, I’m looking for some episodes that feel genuinely annoying to watch — the kind where jokes get super repetitive, characters test your patience, and everything feels chaotic or pointless without much payoff.

Specifically, not the emotional ones where Shin-chan is misunderstood or sad. Just the frustrating, over-the-top ones that drag on.

Preferably clean SFW episodes.can anyone suggest sthg?

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Why does the visuals for the Hindi Doraemon song **'**Jeene Ka Sahi Dhang' feature the animation from 'Bokutachi Chikyuujin' instead of 'Boku Doraemon', and does this discrepancy involve issues related to licensing rights, copyrights, or production costs?