u/Kirinzzz

Can We Be Objective?

Can We Be Objective?

This whole beta cycle has been a rollercoaster for all of us I am sure. Especially people trying to find the last slot for their Ashblade team. Now, after v5 we can have legitimate discussions I believe, but some people have been pushing agendas either following their own likes and dislikes or just trying to muddy the waters.

Especially because this subreddit is the Mortenax Blade mains subreddit. I think we should be impartial and give everyone the option to choose with no agendas or propaganda happening.

We've all seen the discourse of Robinette vs Waven throughout the whole beta cycle but from what I've seen the whole conversation flipped after v5, suddenly people started pushing the thought that Waven was MILES ahead of Robinette after v5, which in v4 the case was that he was worse than even E1 Tribbie. He did get a sizable buff but it wasn't so big as to subvert the whole equation guys.

Even Aventurinemains subreddit isn't doing such glazing for low cost WAventurine, the type I've seen over in this subreddit. The Robinette team has to be neutered with HuoHuo to even be compared to a Waven E0S1 + Hyacine team like come on.

Especially when this is the Mortenax Blade mains, with many of us having his E2 and wanting to make him useful for more than his buffs and debuffs.

Of course there are a lot of people that want to make a monomen team as well as people who genuinely like Aventurine as well here, no shade to them and people should genuinely pull for whoever they like because Ashblade team is one of, if not the most versatile team when it comes to variations. I just think that we shouldn't neuter the conversation by pulling one way or another.

The photo has some good calcs courtesy of Aventurine Mains, the link to the sheet here shouts out to the person sweating over the calcs, truly great work.

u/Kirinzzz — 9 days ago

Gilgamesh E1 or Aventurine E0 for E2 Blade

Hello people! With the beta starting today and the Aventurine Waveflair kit, the rumoured Ashblade main dps, finally being out, the question we have at hand is who will truly complete the Ashblade team.

Now, at similar "cost" we can compare Gilga E1 with Aventurine E0. Even though Gilga E1 has a decent synergy with Ashblade I expect Aventurine to still be the best in terms of numbers.

But if you have E2 Blade I feel like the outcome would be more Gilgamesh favoured because of the sheer amount of buffs E2 Blade allows him to use. Even though the DEF reduction and Damage Taken debuffs can be used by both Aventurine and Gilgamesh, Aventurine cannot take advantage of the insane amounts of damage bonus buffs that E2 Blade + Ashveil provides.

Because of the scarcity of data on this specific level of investment (E1 Gilga or E0 Aventurine, E2 Blade and Ashveil) I wanna ask if the choice would be E1 Gilga or E0 Aventurine. Now, it's still way too early because there are no numbers available on any showcases for Aventurine yet, and I do not trust myself on calculating elation damage so the question still stands.

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u/Kirinzzz — 1 month ago