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In the end, not utilizing Kishibe, Quanxi, and Reze—or not being able to—seems to be the reason why Part 2 failed.

Cutting ties with Part 1 and introducing a fascinating new protagonist like Asa to take the story in a completely new direction was a truly brave and brilliant move.

I absolutely love Kishibe (the strongest Devil Hunter), Reze (the first love), and Quanxi (the first Devil Hunter). But hey, if the author chose not to utilize them, so be it. The real problem, however, is that Part 2 feels less like a complete, cohesive story and more like just 'an attempt'—an unfinished attempt, to be exact.

If the narrative had been solid and compelling, nobody would have cared whether Kishibe or Reze were there. But since Part 2 became such a mess, it leaves a huge void in the story. Where the hell is the 'strongest Devil Hunter' and what is he even doing? The control is broken now, so where is the Bomb Girl and what is she up to?

I read Part 2 again today, and it honestly just feels like 'Goodbye, Eri' set in the Chainsaw Man universe. Instead of a proper 'sequel' to Part 1, it feels more like watching a personal 'experiment' or a 'deconstruction show.' That’s why, despite the charming characters, I still can’t view Part 2 as a complete, fully realized story.

If it were a true 'sequel,' it should have naturally addressed the whereabouts of Kishibe and Reze. Am I just deluding myself? Is this just fanboyism? Seriously? Does it make any sense within the story's own logic for someone as charismatic as Quanxi to exit so abruptly and pointlessly? This is nothing but a 'deconstruction show.' Part 2 is just too weak to even be called a 'story.' And since it feels completely intentional on Tatsuki’s part, I view Part 2 not as a well-made sequel, but as a 'deconstructionist experiment show.

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u/LeekEcstatic9518 — 3 days ago

Reading the fanfic 'A Little Change' somehow brought to mind the ending of The Shawshank Redemption.

I’ve always found it a bit questioning how Denji left without ever looking for Reze during the final Makima arc. Whether she was taken in by Public Safety or Kishibe passed down some info, there should have been some form of closure—no matter how tragic.

Then I came across the fanfic A Little Change. In it, Reze says she wants to find a place with a 'beach,' and Denji promises to come look for her once he wraps things up.

Reading this made me think: if this fic were canon, its ending wouldn’t be cliché at all. Instead, it could leave a lingering resonance far deeper than any tragedy, much like the final beach reunion in The Shawshank Redemption.

I’m sure everyone here feels the same; no one is simply thinking, "Reze is pretty, she looks good with Denji, just make them a couple already." What we truly want to feel through them is that same sense of 'pure, blue freedom' that Andy and Red shared when they finally reunited.

Just imagine Denji and Reze quietly reuniting by the Pacific Ocean—a place where time seemingly stands still. Just like the ending of The Shawshank Redemption... This would be anything but a cheap, cliché "DenReze" romance story.

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u/LeekEcstatic9518 — 6 days ago

Is it just me, or does it feel like Reze is going to get some original scenes in the Makima arc?

As we all know, Reze exits the story with a literal "Yikes!" in the Makima arc, leaving for good. But I just can't imagine MAPPA adapting her exit to be that abrupt and underwhelming in the anime. This isn't just fanboying/fangirling; I have two solid reasons for this:

  1. It’s the absolute last chance to utilize Reze’s character, especially since adapting Part 2 is bound to face massive hurdles. (Unless there’s a major rewrite, animating Part 2 might not even be profitable.)
  2. I highly doubt they will give her the same anti-climactic exit as the manga, now that the movie has given her character so much more weight and depth compared to the original source material.

To be honest, maybe this is just my inner fan talking, but I’m genuinely curious if they would really throw away the last possible chance to utilize a wildly popular character that they themselves worked so hard to build up. (Movie Reze is honestly a whole different character compared to Manga Reze, lmao. I read the original manga in Japanese back in 2020, by the way.)

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u/LeekEcstatic9518 — 8 days ago

Is it the same for you guys? Not just Reze alone.

I want to see an ending where Reze and Denji are together, not just Reze alone. Seeing them apart just doesn't feel right. Oh, Tatsuki... I really hope MAPPA gives these characters the respect they deserve after all the money they've made for them. Maybe some anime-original scenes?

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u/LeekEcstatic9518 — 10 days ago

Whenever I watch a 'Part 2,' it always reminds me of the Korean webtoons 'Denma' and 'DenQ'.

First off, Denma is a rare 'Space Opera' masterpiece, not just in Korea but globally. Its world-building and the sheer impact of each episode are unlike anything I've ever seen. It was serialized for 10 whole years! But then, in a total shocker, the author just ended it abruptly, claiming he couldn't handle his own universe anymore—basically saying something crazy like, 'Our real adventure starts now!' LOL.

But then, an artist who was devastated by that hollow ending started a fan-made project called DenQ. At first, it was just fanfic and definitely not canon. However, it gained such overwhelming support that Naver Webtoon actually picked it up as an official series! What’s even more mind-blowing is that this artist managed to perfectly tie up all the loose ends and plot holes that even the original creator had given up on.

Looking at this case, I’m secretly hoping that someone will do the same for Chainsaw Man Part 2 someday. In my purely subjective opinion, Part 2 feels like a bit of a failure compared to Part 1. I’m waiting for a fan who has an even deeper understanding and genuine love for the series than the original author to step up and create a truly perfect sequel.

It’s just so hard to let go of things like Kishibe and Reze’s whereabouts, the proper treatment of the Four Horsemen, or the 'Devil of Devils.' That’s why I keep having these thoughts—I'm just not ready to give up on those plot points yet.

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u/LeekEcstatic9518 — 12 days ago

Am I the only one who thinks MAPPA will inevitably change the ending for business reasons?

As we all know, Reze only shines in her own arc. In the final showdown with Makima, she literally gets dismembered and vanishes for five years until the manga ends. It’s absurd.

But let’s look at the reality. The ‘Reze’ character single-handedly revived the declining Chainsaw Man IP. Do we honestly think MAPPA will let her go out with a pathetic 'Argh!' just to follow the source material? From a management perspective, they must be dying to use her one more time.

Think about it: They produce the 'Control Devil' arc as a movie. Instead of relying on Part 2 (which needs an overhaul anyway), they negotiate with Fujimoto to add a reunion scene between Reze and Denji at the end of the film. This is literally 'free money.' 80% of those who saw the Reze movie would hit the theaters again just for that one scene. For executives and investors, the profit is practically staring them in the face.

A Makima-arc movie with a Reze-Denji reunion... is this really that far-fetched? It’s such a lucrative business move. Sure, in the manga, she wasn’t impactful enough for a comeback, but the real-world success has changed everything.

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u/LeekEcstatic9518 — 14 days ago