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Mistral - no longer used by Proton Lumo

So it appears (and has been confirmed by Proton Support) that Mistral is no longer part of the Proton Lumo 2's lineup of LLM's. They have chosen QWEN 3.5 and Z.ai's GLM as their primary LLM's, dropping Mistral, KIMI K2, Apertus, Olmo, OpenHands etc.

What do sub members think of this?

I'm intrigued, as this goes against much of what Proton have been "selling on" for many years, and in particular Andy Yen's long stated stance on US and Chinese tech being an active risk to European Tech Sovreignity, and how foolhardy it would be to rely on US and Chinese tech strategically as well as economically - and now we have Proton Lumo with a 100% Chinese stack under the bonnet.

In terms of performance, yes Lumo 2 is a significant upgrade from the previous version, but in my own admittedly small amount of testing (2 days only) Mistral Large remains significantly ahead of Lumo 2 in terms of quality of output and lack of drift.

The ideological pivot is an interesting one - for a company that has been so vocally pro-European sovereignity to do this is a baffler. Proton Support have openly stated that the choice was made simply because the old models couldn't compete with the likes of ChatGPT and Claude - so they're putting their stake firmly in the ground as competing in the Chatbot arena - surely this will not play well with business, government and military users in Europe, for whom a sovereign stack is essential for compliance - and a Chinese stack, even it is IS resident in European Data Centres, will still not be acceptable because of training provenance issues?

What say you?

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