u/Master_Heron_7011

Flock contracted cancelled and cameras bagged and yet everyone of them is still standing.

PFISD did not bag, they removed the hardware. Why is the city dragging its feet?

EDIT: as of this afternoon they have been removed

Today I learned something that fundamentally changes Pflugerville’s debate over Flock Safety.

Pflugerville resident Sam Aly obtained the City’s Flock records through a Texas Public Information Act request and did the painstaking work of digging through the data and identifying what it showed. I reviewed the raw audit exports and confirmed the core figures.

For months, the public discussion has focused on roughly 80 organizations listed as having access to Pflugerville’s Flock Cameras. My stance has always been that that is way too many, and that we need actual agreements with any 3rd party who has access to City data.

Staff has repeatedly said that Pflugerville is not participating in statewide or nationwide sharing.

The City’s own Flock network-audit records tell a very different story.

After removing duplicate records from overlapping exports, the data identifies 459 outside organizations conducting nearly 1.6 million searches that included Pflugerville’s camera network over the last six months. The organizations include agencies hundreds of miles away and outside Texas.

Whatever Flock calls the setting, this is broad network access to data collected in Pflugerville.

I do not yet know whether the discrepancy resulted from misrepresentation, a misunderstanding of how Flock’s platform operates, inadequate oversight, or some combination of the three. I sincerely hope no one knowingly provided inaccurate information.

But after months of scrutiny, direct questions, and public assurances, not understanding access on this scale represents a profound failure of oversight.

If these agencies could not search Pflugerville data, Flock and the City need to explain why their searches appear in an audit generated for Pflugerville. If they could, the public deserves to know what access was enabled, who authorized it, and why Council and residents were repeatedly told that broader sharing was not turned on.

Effective immediately, I am calling for the City to:

• Suspend the entire Flock system, including its license-plate readers, video cameras, supporting infrastructure, outside access, and integrations.
• Suspend Clearview AI until its configuration and usage have been independently audited.
• Preserve all records, audit logs, settings, access histories, and data needed for the reviews.
• Begin an independent technical audit of how these systems are configured, where their data goes, who can access it, and whether their operation complies with City policy and law.
• Produce a complete public inventory of every high-risk surveillance device, product, account, integration, and data-sharing arrangement operated by the City.
• Report the findings publicly before any system returns to operation.

I am not claiming tonight that every component of Flock or Clearview AI has been misused. I am saying that the City has lost the factual foundation needed to justify continuing their operation.

We cannot govern technology we have not accurately inventoried. We cannot protect data flows we have not independently verified. And we should not continue operating high-risk surveillance systems first and ask how they work later.

This also makes it even more important for Council to act tomorrow evening on my high-risk technology governance and oversight proposal. The need for binding rules, complete inventories, independent audits, public transparency, and meaningful Council oversight could not be clearer. We must establish those safeguards before allowing any of these systems to return to operation, if at all.

Shut the systems down. Preserve the evidence. Verify everything. Report the truth publicly.

Edit / Update: As soon as this new data came to light, I immediately contacted the city manager, chief of police, and city attorney, who mobilized to figure out what is going on. They've also reached out to Flock to get answers.

Flock contract renewal vote is Agenda item 6B --

As of this posting, the contract has not been updated as mentioned by u/jonathan4pf

Contract:

https://pflugerville.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=15766105&GUID=4B985DC3-8402-434B-B951-9F24593380F6

SAFE aka the Digital guardrail resolution (no teeth w/ respect to Flock/Police Surveillance):

https://pflugerville.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=15777183&GUID=BDF3F916-A57A-4195-93D8-4FF40465F237

Public comment link: https://pflugervilletx-city-manager.form.transform.civicplus.com/45145

Red flags for current contract:

• No breach/incident notification clause
• No audit rights
• No indemnification clause
• Low liability cap with no carve-outs for gross negligence, breach, or misuse
• Broad government-agency confidentiality carve-out with no notice requirement to the City
• Flock retains ownership of all derivative analyses/outputs, not just raw footage
• No SLA/uptime commitment, slow 72-hour support window
• Suspension with zero remedy for the City
• Vendor controls camera placement and charges the City for relocations
• Broad, vague force majeure definition
• Assignment on M&A requires only notice, not City consent
• No Texas Public Information Act / records-retention provisions
• Narrowed non-appropriation right (can't be used as a discretionary exit)

The Council is leaning towards renewal. Show up and let them know the community and city deserve better.

File #:	2026-0776    Version:  1 2	Name:

Type:	Agenda Item	Status:	Discuss and consider action

File created:	8/11/2026	In control:	Police

On agenda:	8/25/2026	Final action:

Title:	Discuss and consider action to approve Master Services Agreement between Flock Group, Inc. and the City of Pflugerville for the lease of Automated License Plate Reader (ALPR) Cameras and licensing in the amount of $87,500 per year.

And the the Flock Quote:

https://pflugerville.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=15766106&GUID=FAFC0322-D77C-4195-9813-AA6B047BB021

File #:	2026-0821    Version: 1

Type:	Agenda Item	Status:	Discuss only

File created:	8/25/2026	In control:	City Council

On agenda:	8/25/2026	Final action:	tbd

Discussion regarding a Resolution of the City of Pflugerville, TX, adopting standards for secure, accountable, fair, and explainable (SAFE) technology use; directing implementation, and providing an effective date.

Someone start a trend of covering cameras with bras like they do in shitty dive bars. Imagine.

noticed several of the Pflock posts are now MIA; probably get a ban for asking.

https://preview.redd.it/vcwewuyl1tfh1.png?width=1548&format=png&auto=webp&s=dba492d0a30522ff006621610acb48ececccb2bd

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/very-high-pflugerville-utility-rate-frustrates-customer/

new to this whole thing, but wondering how/if Bitchat could be adapted to CardputerADV?