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Full transcript of a short video by Bocce:

"Also, where did Ryan Reynolds get this number? This $500,000?

Where did he get that number?

I know people jokingly say that he got it from Stephanie Jones, or maybe not jokingly say, but that doesn't make sense.

First and foremost he (Ryan) said this in September (2024), but even if we went past September - okay, actually, if we even just said September, at that point, he (Justin Baldoni) would have paid

- $25,000 for Jonesworks, his regular PR, right?

 - $30,000 for three months with Jed Wallace, that would be $90,000 total.

 - and you got $15,000 for three months with Melissa Nathan's TAG, that's $45,000.

And by September, they wouldn't have paid that yet, or maybe they would have—no, they wouldn't have, they paid it monthly.

So at that point they would have paid only 30,000 to Jed and 15,000 to Melissa or or TAG PR.

But even if they were projecting it out to the full three months that they signed up for, that's like $160,000.

Okay, so if we added when Ryan Reynolds was claiming that they were saying negative stuff about Blake around July, that would only add another 25,000.

So where is this $500,000 figure coming from?"

Seems to me like it might have been a defamatory-adjacent number.

Kinda like everything scandalous that has been alleged against Baldoni's cooperation with Nathan, Wallace and TAG ever since December 2024. And with Freedman as well, since all claims of defamation by Freedman in Lively v. Wayfarer were dismissed.

The more evidence comes out that there wasn’t a smear campaign against Lively, that there wasn’t any kind of smear website, there were no bots, no astroturfing, no amplyfying anything, no mass coordination with CCs, no false statements made, how the Wayfarer clients asked again and again for TAG and Wallace not to do anything beyond what they were told to do (and we know Wayfarer fires publicists who plant negativne stories when being told not to do that) - the more push back there is in the form of spreading the illogical, not supported by reason, or by law, "guilty by association" accusations.

We know for a fact that Ryan has been seeding falsities about Baldoni since September 2024, starting with random, borderline-defamatory number of $500,000, which is 11 times more than what Baldoni had paid his Crisis PR team at the time (September 2024), and 3 times more than what Baldoni paid his crisis PR team in total. The falsities continued with the first New York Times article, where Baldoni, Heath and Sarowitz were falsely accused of SH in December 2024. And maliciously accused, in my opinion.

The smear article additionally assailed and slandered the reputations of innocent journalist Kjersti Flaa, innocent journalist Sara Nathan and innocent publicist Jennifer Abel. All the allegations against them have been proven false and the belief they were villains in the first place was the result, in my opinion, of a smear campaign by Lively (Reynolds), published in the New York Times.

Everything said is alleged. This is the full transcript from the video:

"I think we know how the settlement went with Stephanie Jones and Katie Case because now we have new text messages between Katie Case and Melissa Nathan. And Stephanie Jones is now directly requesting that Melissa Nathan receive sanctions, among other things. So let's get into all of it.

Safe to say it was every man for themselves, and Katie definitely threw Melissa under the bus.

After the conversations that Katie Case and Stephanie Jones had that led to their settlement, now Stephanie Jones made a filing requesting that Judge Liman sanction Melissa Nathan, issuing the following order:

- Entering a judgment for the plaintiffs' claims on all of her claims against Nathan;

- Striking Nathan's defenses;

- Permitting that the plaintiff pursue their defamation claims against Melissa Nathan;

- Ordering Melissa Nathan to pay any of the expert witness fees and the attorneys' fees for the plaintiff as well.

She's like, "You're going to be coughing up some money and I'm coming after you."

When I went through all the exhibits, this was the only thing that mentioned Justin Baldoni or the Wayfarer parties.

And they were talking about they were already working on websites for the Stephanie Jones thing and Rebel Wilson.

So Katie was asking,

"Is Jed going to be doing the same thing for Justin Baldoni?" Specifically asked, "Is Jed doing anything on Justin? I'm having Zoe monitor, but that's not the same, lol." And Melissa stated, "Not yet, they've not signed him on."

Proving that as the backlash was starting to roll in, that Blake was claiming was unorganic, it was completely organic. Even when you look at Blake's timeline of everything, you had the location share, plus the premiere interview questions, plus the baby bump video—all of that contributed to the negative comments, not Justin Baldoni.

Before we move on, I do have to show you these cringe text messages because they are as cringey as the whole Blake and Taylor conversation. This is between Melissa and Katie.

Katie said, "I have no idea why you like me so much," crying emoji, laughing emoji. "Why are people saying that? It's so weird." Which Melissa responded, "I don't know either to be honest." Katie responded, "I do inject a level of positivity into a day-to-day life, which you hate, but you also love, lol."

Secondhand embarrassment is real for this.

Keep in mind those texts when I read you Katie's sworn statement. So she's talking about her getting her own counsel in regards to the whole Stephanie Jones case. She stated, quote:

"I was concerned because she [Melissa Nathan] had told me the same lawyers representing us in the case started by Stephanie Jones were also going to represent Justin Baldoni and Wayfarer in the case commenced by Blake Lively."

"Ms. Nathan called me and was annoyed that I had done that, told me I was being stupid and that I was worrying about nothing. She said empathetically that I need not to worry as the website was created for the Rock and we can't be held liable for work products for a client."

Melissa Nathan also reiterated that what was included in the website was true and therefore was not defamatory.

Katie goes on to swear in that she has never created a website and her involvement was limited to writing a copy for websites only when she was directed to do so by Melissa Nathan.

She continued that Melissa Nathan had been in touch with Dwayne Johnson's legal team and that they were preparing to enter into their own litigation against Stephanie Jones.

According to Ms. Nathan, Mr. Johnson had suffered bad press recently, and it was speculated among the industry professionals that it was bad press due to Stephanie Jones being unhappy with him ending their contract.

She further explained that Johnson's legal team required a website to act as a tool that would allow them to gather information that they could use as part of their lawsuit without going through a legal process. Melissa Nathan asked her to draft a copy for the site that would follow along the lines of a whistleblower narrative.

It seems like Katie was having a full tell-all in their settlement meeting. What do you think? So how does Katie feel about Stephanie Jones?

Well, she was asked in her deposition and this is what she had to say: quote, "I personally didn't have a very good experience with Ms. Jones." When she was asked, "Why did you not have a very high opinion of her?"

"It is not that I didn't have a high opinion. Unfortunately, I just didn't have a very good experience.

She was incredibly volatile to work for. She had very sudden spurts of extreme aggression. It seemed like there was nothing that really I could do to produce quality work in her eyes."

She stated, "Even if I did the same work five days in a row, it would be received differently on each one of those days."

So they asked her, "What is your opinion of Ms. Jones now?" And she responded, "I think that she's a challenging individual." "Is it right to say that you have a very negative opinion of Ms. Jones?" And she said, "No." She said, "I don't have an opinion." They asked, "Do you harbor any animosity towards her?" And she responded, "No."

Isn't it convenient that Katie was all excited about doing the Stephanie Jones takedown until they were caught, and now she's like, "Actually, it was Melissa Nathan. Actually, I didn't really want any part of it. I don't have an opinion about Stephanie. She's just a challenging person."

I did check and I don't see anything for Dwayne Johnson going after Stephanie Jones at this time legally, but I also think it coming out about the website—that he had something to do with it or his team did—might have put a damper in that plan.

What do you guys think of Stephanie's sanction request? Now, I don't think that Judge Liman is actually going to approve it, but I think he's going to deny it, and then Stephanie Jones is going to file a separate lawsuit against Dwayne Johnson, similar to what she did to Katie Case, but this time she's going to go all in after Dwayne Johnson."

Video by Bocce GoHawks

This video, by creator Bocce GoHawks, explores the peculiar circumstances surrounding a 2022 lawsuit that suddenly went viral in April 2023, specifically highlighting the suspicious timing relative to Dwayne Johnson's departure from the PR firm Jonesworks.

⚓ Was the article about The Rock from April 2023 "A Hit Job"?

The Mystery: The creator examines why a pre-existing 2022 lawsuit gained massive social media traction on TikTok, Reddit, and Twitter precisely after Dwayne Johnson stopped working with Jonesworks (0:00 -1:15, 8:24 -8:50).

Disproportionate Focus: While the lawsuit named over 100 defendants -including major celebrities like Eminem and Michael Jordan, as well as large corporations and government agencies, the public narrative focused almost exclusively on The Rock (3:20-3:45,11:42-12:15 .20:30-21:00).

Questioning Tactics: The creator draws parallels between these events and allegations made by Blake Lively and Stephanie Jones against Wayfarer, Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace, regarding smear campaigns and crisis manufacturing, suggesting that Jones might be engaging in behaviors she is accussing others of doing (8:58-9:54, 14:18-14:35).

📝 Examining the Court Document

The Lawsuit's Nature: The case, filed in October 2022 in the Southern District of New York, involved a plaintiff representing herself (pro se) alleging a broad conspiracy regarding a kidnapping case (1:56-4:15).

Nonsensical Scope: The filing spans 48 pages and lists an absurdly wide range of defendants, from specific people and companies to The United States of America and various state entities (10:20-13:43, 16:10-17:10).

Lack of Evidence: The video notes that Dwayne Johnson was not even mentioned in the actual narrative or timeline of the court documents; he was simply part of an exhaustive list of defendants (4:49-5:06,21:10-21:26).

🧐 Conclusion & Suspicions

The Timing Gap: Since there was no major activity on this case in April 2023, the creator remains highly skeptical of the "coincidental" virality (21:54 -22:23).

The Verdict: The creator speculates that given the power dynamics and the nature of the possible smear against The Rock, Stephanie Jones may have been involved.