Two Sides of the Same Queen: Part Four

Two Sides of the Same Queen: Part Four

HOLAAAAAA TODOS!!!!! Así que hoy traigo algo nuevo de lo que me gustaría hablar sobre FairestRegal, y es sobre el paralelismo de estas escenas (y cómo se relacionan con Cora) en la imagen que encabeza el post: con Regina siendo la víctima de Cora (The Stable Boy, 1x18) y con Snow siendo la víctima de Regina (Pilot, 1x01).

Tengo que decir que hay un paralelismo entre Snow y Regina (que es trágico, pero aun así, por alguna razón, me emociona) porque lo que estamos viendo en el piloto es, en realidad, una repetición de la tragedia que convirtió a Regina en quien es. Cuando Regina, devastada por la muerte de Daniel, le pregunta a Cora: “Mother, why have you done this?”, Cora responde: “Because this is your happy ending”.

En ese momento, la frase es solo la justificación cruel de una madre narcisista como Cora, convencida de que destruir el amor de su hija es un sacrificio necesario para que Regina consiga las oportunidades que ella no tuvo a su alcance de joven. Pero años después, cuando la maldición está por llegar, la escena vuelve a ocurrir de una forma muy similar: Snow encuentra al Príncipe herido y le pregunta a Regina: “Why did you do this?”, y Regina responde: “Because this is my happy ending”.

Las dos escenas tienen una estructura casi idéntica. Regina, después de perder a Daniel, está frente a la persona que acaba de destruir su felicidad y no entiende cómo puede hacerle algo así. Años después, Snow se encuentra en esa misma posición: acaba de ver cómo Regina destruye aquello que ama y tampoco puede comprender por qué. Las dos hacen una pregunta similar, pero la respuesta que reciben viene de personas que creen tener derecho a decidir qué debe suceder con la felicidad de la otra.

La diferencia es que Regina ya no está del lado de quien hace la pregunta, pues ahora es ella quien ocupa el lugar de la persona que destruye el amor de alguien más. Snow está viviendo una versión de lo que Regina vivió con Cora, mientras Regina está reproduciendo lo que Cora hizo con ella. Y eso cambia por completo la forma de ver la escena del piloto, porque Snow no es simplemente otra víctima de Regina: está ocupando el mismo lugar que Regina ocupó años atrás.

Snow y Regina no son iguales, pero ambas representan dos posibles destinos frente al mismo dolor. Regina permitió que lo que le hicieron definiera lo que ella haría después con los demás. Snow, en cambio, tuvo razones para dejarse consumir por el resentimiento y aun así decidió no convertirse en aquello que la hirió. Y, como sabemos, más adelante Snow nunca lo hizo.

La conexión con Cora es lo que permite entender cómo Regina terminó cruzando esa línea, la frase de Cora termina funcionando como una especie de profecía. Ella le dice a Regina que lo que está haciendo es por su “final feliz”, sin saber que, con el tiempo, Regina terminará utilizando exactamente la misma lógica para justificar sus propias acciones. Cora no solamente le arrebata a Regina a Daniel; también le enseña, mediante ese acto, una manera distorsionada de entender la felicidad.

Para Cora, el amor tradicional es una debilidad, así que lo expresa de otra forma: decidiendo por la otra persona, controlando su destino y destruyendo aquello que considera un obstáculo para su futuro. Regina rechaza a su madre, la culpa por haberle quitado a Daniel y pasa años odiándola (sí, gran parte de este odio lo descarga en Snow, pero no quita que no le tuviera odio a Cora también), pero termina heredando precisamente aquello que más detesta de ella.

Cuando mira a Snow y dice “Because this is my happy ending”, ya no está buscando solamente venganza: está repitiendo la filosofía que Cora implantó en ella. Para Regina, la felicidad vuelve a convertirse en algo que puede conseguirse a costa de otra persona. Cora hizo que Regina perdiera a Daniel porque creía que era necesario para darle el futuro que ella quería; Regina hace que Snow pierda su felicidad porque cree que es necesario para conseguir la suya.

Por eso, la frase de Cora puede leerse como un presagio del destino de Regina, pero también como una profecía autocumplida. Cora quería convertir a Regina en una reina poderosa y terminó convirtiéndola en alguien que reproduce su misma forma de ejercer el poder. Regina no obtiene el “final feliz” que su madre imaginaba para ella; obtiene algo mucho más irónico: se convierte en la mujer que Cora le enseñó a ser.

Cuando Snow le pregunta “Why did you do this?”, la respuesta de Regina cierra ese círculo. La Regina que una vez hizo esa misma pregunta desde el lugar de una hija destrozada ahora es quien responde desde el otro lado. Snow está viviendo una situación que Regina conoce demasiado bien, pero Regina ya no puede reconocerse en ella porque ha pasado a ocupar el lugar de Cora.

Creo que ya lo he dicho, pero Snow y Regina no son simplemente una “heroína” y una “villana”, sino dos mujeres que terminan enfrentándose desde lados opuestos de una experiencia que Regina ya conoció.

La verdadera herencia de Cora no fue que Regina lograra ser una reina majestuosa y poderosa ante la cual todos se doblegarían, sino la idea de que para obtener un final feliz primero hay que quitarle el suyo a alguien más, en términos mas simples: ser egoísta. Pues según Cora, si necesitas lograr lo que quieres acosta de otros, pues ¡¡¡ADELANTE!!!

La serie convierte una frase aparentemente sencilla en un ciclo generacional: Cora se la dice a Regina, Regina se la repite a Snow y, en ese instante, la víctima se convierte en el reflejo de su verdugo.

Y tal vez es por eso que el paralelismo me gusta tanto; Snow está viviendo el momento que alguna vez destruyó a Regina, mientras Regina está haciendo aquello que una vez la destruyó a ella. Son dos mujeres que, en momentos distintos, se encuentran exactamente en el mismo lugar, pero toman caminos diferentes frente al mismo dolor.

Son Two Sides of the Same Queen, después de todo *wink * 😉 *wink *

u/MostRate2091 — 7 days ago
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¿Regina necesita hijos biológicos?

Me emociona mucho hablar de esta relación madre e hijo; es de mis favoritas, y el tema que escogí en específico, para hablar de estos dos, es sobre algo que necesitaba comunicar.

La respuesta a la pregunta del post es simple: no.

A mí nadie me va a decir que el Zelena quedar embarazada mientras fingía ser Marian fue algo que surgió accidentalmente; no, mi amor, ella le echó ganas a Robbie XD. Ese embarazo fue claramente una venganza, una forma de hacerle daño a Regina con algo de lo que, en teoría, nunca podría deshacerse.

Sin embargo, Zelena partía de una idea equivocada: asumía que un hijo biológico tendría más valor que un hijo adoptivo. Esto me lo recordó una queridísima amiga, y si lo pensamos bien, tiene mucho sentido con la visión del mundo que tiene este personaje.

AVISO: Lo que explicó a continuación no es la verdad absoluta, es solo la forma en la que lo interpreté.

Zelena creció sintiéndose rechazada por haber sido abandonada al nacer y, además, fue criada por un padre adoptivo que nunca la quiso y la maltrató psicológica y físicamente por ser diferente. Su experiencia pudo haberle ensañado que ser adoptada significaba ser menos importante y menos digna de amor. Probablemente también desachable, pues, ¿cuántas no veces no le sugeria su padre adoptivo que fue un error adoptarla? VARIAS... Desde esa perspectiva, era lógico que creyera que Regina nunca seria realmente una madre hasta tener un hijo biológico con Robin.

Pero Regina demuestra exactamente lo contrario. Henry nunca fue un "plan B" ni un sustituto de un hijo biológico. Fue el hijo que ella eligió. Nadie la obligó a adoptarlo; fue una decisión consciente que tomó porque queria tener a alguien a quien amar y formar una familia. Al fin y al cabo la venganza no era suficiente.

Desde ese momento, Henry se convirtió en su prioridad. Lo que para mi prueba que Regina no está desesperada por tener un hijo biológico; ella está desesperada por no perder al hijo que ya tiene. Su mayor deseo no era ser madre, porque ya lo era. Lo que necesitaba era conservar a Henry de su lado.

En la vida real, la maternidad no depende de compartir ADN con con tu hijo/hija. Depende del vínculo que construye con ellos, y eso ES JUSTAMENTE LO QUE HACE REGINA CON HERNY. En un principio ella lo hizo creer que estaba loco, intentó controlarlo, trató de asesinar a su madre biológica... ustedes ya saben la historia completa. Sus malas decisiones y el miedo a perderlo la llevaron a equivocarse una y otra vez. Pero al ponerse en el lugar de Henry(We Are Both, 2x02)es cuando nace esa chispa que la motiva a dejar de ser así, pues es la primera vez que Regina le brinda empatía a una persona a la que lastimó y es sencillamente ¡HERMOSO!

Siempre se habla de que su desarrollo consiste en aprender amar a Henry, y es válido, pero no es exactamente aprender amarlo porque antes no lo hiciera, sino, hacerlo de la manera correcta. Lo que aprende, prácticamente, es a ser una mejor madre: confiar en él y respetar sus decisiones. Algo que Cora nunca le permitió a Regina.

Y Henry también evoluciona. Con el tiempo deja de verla únicamente como la Reina Malvada y reconoce el enorme esfuerzo que hace por cambiar. Cuando le dice: "Tú no eres una villana, eres mamá"(Going Home 3x11), no está ignorando sus errores; está reconociendo quién decidió ser a pesar de ellos.

Al final de todo, el embarazo de Zelena no nos demuestra que Regina está eternamente herida por no poder tener hijos biológicos, no, a Regina eso le terminó importando un comino. Lo único que demuestra esto, es la diferencia entre la manera en que ambas hermanas entienden la familia.

Zelena, marcada por el abandono y el rechazo, cree que la sangre es lo único que garantiza el amor. Regina, en cambio, demuestra que una familia también se elige. Henry no vale menos por ser adoptado, ni Regina es menos madre por no haberlo dado a luz..

POR ESO AMO REGALBELIEVER. Regina no es una madre perfecta, sino una mujer que eligió amar a un niño como su hijo y que, gracias a ese amor, encontró la fuerza para cambiar.

u/MostRate2091 — 29 days ago

¿Qué piensas sobre esta amistad?(5x6)

Este es uno de mi episodios favoritos del arco de Dark Swan, y como tal de la temporada cinco.

Merida y Belle realmente tenían química, no digo esto en el sentido romántico(aunque tienen potencial como pareja) sino en su dinámica. Merida realmente necesitaba a alguien que le recordará tener confiaza en sí misma y Belle la ayudó, al final de su encuentro Belle dice algo importante: Y es que ella misma nunca se rinde. Merida le da la razón.

Siento que Merida comparte eso con ella, digo, podemos verlo en ella; tampoco se rindió con su búsqueda para salvar a sus hermanos y a su reino, y solo tal vez eso pudo inspirar a Belle a seguir luchando por salvar a Rumple.

Algo que tengo que decir, y no es con intención de odio al ship, pero este capítulo siempre hace que me guste más Belle sin tener pareja. Rumbelle me gusta aún con todos sus problemas(específicamente en temporadas 1-2-3 y 7) pero para este momento de la trama, aveces pienso que tal vez debieron dejar a Belle más tiempo soltera, no todos los personajes necesitan pareja para brillar, y Belle es la prueba de eso.

Y no me maten, pero no fui muy fan de Belle y Will.

u/MostRate2091 — 1 month ago

DÍA DE BANDERAS ROJAS

HOLAAAA!!!!!

Hoy vengo con un juego, una propuesta divertida que puede ser polémica y algo cuestionable, pero este es nuestro espacio, y solo por hoy les voy a pedir una cosa por la que en el sub principal querrían hacer una caza de brujas.

Busquen un comentario de odio que hayan visto hacia Regina(o una crítica muy común, saben que los Anti-Regina son bots), respondan con: "Sí... ¿y qué?", y luego de su respuesta a este y sea lo mas sarcásticos y dramáticos posible. Después, escribe un contraargumento explicando porque ese comentario Anti-Regina es incompleto, tiene una doble vara o ignora el contexto del personaje.

La idea no es decir que Regina actuó moralmente bien, todos aquí sabemos que hizo cosas terribles. Lo divertido es dejar de actuar como si el que Regina haga cosas malas fuera una revelación.

Para completar el reto, tu respuesta debe tener con un: ¡¡¡AHORA CIERRA LA PUTA BOCA!!!

Así que por un día, ABRAZA LAS RED FLAGS. SÉ DRAMÁTICO. NO TE LO TOMES ENSERIÓ.

Empezaré yo respondiendo la segunda imagen que puse en el inicio:

Sí...¿y qué? Quisiera saber si aún queda vacante para ser la mascota de la reina, Graham es un mal agradecido.

Arthur obliga mágicamente a Guinevere a amarlo contra su voluntad usando las Arenas de Avalon, ¿por qué casi nunca se menciona? Si el consentimiento deja de ser libre en un caso, ¿por qué el otro suele pasar desapercibido?

En la temporada tres durante el viaje al pasdo Hook insinúa que Emma esta usando su táctica con las mujeres ¿Osea emborracharlas para llevarlas a la cama? Uy muy mal ¿no?

Nadie olvida que Regina lo hizo, el show tal vez pero no el fandom y ni siquiera quienes la amamos, si tu vara es tan alta para atacarla, también ataca a estos personajes.

¡¡¡AHORA CIERRA LA PUTA BOCA!!!

u/MostRate2091 — 1 month ago
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Two Sides of the Same Queen: Part Three

Me encanta leer desde pequeño, y Blancanieves fue el cuento de hadas que me introdujo en ese mundo. La gente suele hablar de Cenicienta o Hansel y Gretel, y es totalmente comprensible: cada uno tiene su cuento de hadas favorito. Pero para mí, Blancanieves es el cuento de hadas por excelencia. Y en lo que respecta a Disney, es el clásico.

En tantas versiones, la historia siempre se ha centrado en la batalla entre el bien y el mal. Luego llegó Once Upon a Time y la reinventó por completo. Llevó a la Reina Malvada más allá del deseo infantil de ser la más bella de todas y la convirtió en alguien impulsada por el dolor, la pérdida y la venganza. Transformó a Blancanieves de una princesa puramente inocente en una mujer realista que no temía ensuciarse las manos. Y, quizás lo más importante, tomó una de las rivalidades más icónicas de la ficción y convirtió a esas dos mujeres en amigas.

La gente suele decir que la historia gira en torno a Rumple o Emma, ​​lo cual tiene sentido, ya que ella es la protagonista de la serie. Y no intento restarle importancia a ninguno de los dos. Nada de lo que digo cambia el papel de Emma en la historia.

Pero para mí, Blancanieves y la Reina Malvada son los pilares de OUAT.

La serie ha contado innumerables historias, pero la suya es la esencia. Su conflicto no se limita a un secreto o a las manipulaciones posteriores. Se remonta aún más atrás, a sus madres. Es un ciclo generacional que finalmente llega a la propia Emma a través de su relación con Regina.

Mucha gente habla de SwanQueen (y a mí también me encanta SwanQueen), pero lo que más me gusta de la serie es FairestRegal. Ambas mujeres cambiaron. Ninguna de las dos es la misma persona que era en el Bosque Encantado o en el cuento de hadas original. Su relación fue lo que impulsó la historia hasta convertirla en lo que finalmente es Once Upon a Time.

Al menos, así lo veo yo. Sé que habrá quienes digan: "No, fue este personaje" o "En realidad, fue otro". Está bien.

Pero para mí, siempre fueron ellos dos, porque juntos representan el mensaje central de la serie.

Regina es la redención.

No porque su pasado desaparezca o porque todos la perdonen, sino porque constantemente tiene que decidir quién quiere ser a pesar de todo lo que ha hecho. Su historia plantea la pregunta de si alguien que ha causado un dolor inmenso aún puede elegir convertirse en una mejor persona. La redención, en su caso, no se trata de borrar el pasado, sino de negarse a que el pasado defina cada decisión que toma en el presente.

Snow es la esperanza.

No porque sea ingenua o perfecta (no lo es), sino porque nunca deja de creer que la gente puede elegir de forma diferente. Incluso después de la traición, la pérdida y el desamor, sigue creyendo que vale la pena luchar por la bondad. La esperanza no es optimismo ciego; es la decisión de seguir creyendo cuando la vida te da todas las razones para rendirte.

Por eso, uno de mis momentos favoritos entre ellas es cuando Blancanieves le dice a Regina que no importa si alguien más cree que merece el perdón; ella tiene que creer que lo merece. Para mí, esa frase resume la esencia de sus respectivas historias. Blancanieves le recuerda a Regina que la redención comienza por creer que eres capaz de convertirte en una mejor persona.

Pero lo que hace que esa escena sea aún más significativa es que cierra el círculo.

Regina fue quien le enseñó a Blancanieves a nunca rendirse. Años después, es Snow quien regresa, pero con palabras, de una manera diferente, negándose a abandonar a Regina cuando esta lucha por creer en sí misma. Pasan años transformándose mutuamente sin siquiera darse cuenta.

Esa escena del principio siempre me hace llorar cuando la veo. Lamentablemente, aún no he llegado a ella en mi actual revisión, pero cuando lo haga, sin duda volveré aquí para llorar con todos ustedes.

La esperanza de Snow le da a Regina el espacio para creer que la redención es posible, mientras que la redención de Regina demuestra que la esperanza de Snow no era infundada. Una idea valida a la otra. Sin esperanza, la redención parece imposible. Sin redención, la esperanza pierde sentido.

Así que ahora les pregunto: ¿creen que es correcto dividirlas en blanco y negro? ¿Es Regina completamente malvada? No. ¿Es Snow completamente buena? No, ninguna de las dos. Entonces, ¿por qué siguen haciéndolo? ¿Por qué siguen dividiendo a estos personajes en buenos y malos? Al fin y al cabo, son humanos. Como tú y como yo, toman buenas y malas decisiones. Crecen, fracasan y, a veces, recaen en viejos hábitos.

Quizás sea porque ven el mundo en blanco y negro. Puede sonar a comparación descabellada, pero Once Upon a Time comparte algo con Juego de Tronos: personajes complejos. Personajes que no se pueden reducir a una sola etiqueta.

Creo que cuando la gente entienda eso, dejarán de encasillar a personajes como Regina y Blancanieves en la categoría de luz y oscuridad, o de llamarlas hipócritas simplemente porque no encajan con la versión que querían que fueran. Está bien que no te guste un personaje, pero no lo reduzcas a una caricatura solo porque no se ajusta a tu visión del mundo.

Por eso, para mí, Regina y Blancanieves son el corazón de esta serie. Por supuesto, otros personajes también pueden encajar en esa conversación, pero para mí, esos dos lo son todo.

u/MostRate2091 — 1 month ago

What if the story continued in books?

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I've been thinking about this for a while. When Star Wars ended (before Disney bought the franchise), its universe continued to expand through books. There were stories centered on Leia, Luke, and many other characters, including both sequels and prequels. So it makes me wonder: why couldn't A&E have done the same with OUAT?

OUAT already had books like Reawakened(regarding this specific book, I'm curious why they didn't continue adapting it season after season), Regina Rising, Red's Untold Tale, and Henry and Violet. It even had comics. So many characters were left with unfinished stories. There are plenty I'd love to know more about, such as: Why did Maleficent become evil? How did Lily find her father? How did Aurora and Mulan bring Phillip back to life? What happened to Mulan after she arrived in Oz? What was Zelena's life in Oz really like? Or Snow's adventures as a bandit.

I know these topics might not be interesting to everyone, and the books wouldn't even have to focus on these particular stories. They could explore completely different ideas—or even continue OUATIW. But they could at least explore characters the show never fully took advantage of.

u/MostRate2091 — 1 month ago

The Evil Queen and the Queens of Darkness

Season 4B might not be one of the show's best arcs, but I have to say the dynamic between these four women kept me glued to the screen. I love villains, especially Disney villains, and seeing the Evil Queen (who was already my favorite even before I watched OUAT) alongside Maleficent, Cruella, and Ursula was such a treat. Now that I'm older, I actually wish we'd gotten even more scenes of them together.

One thing I've always wondered is how Regina met Ursula and Cruella.

It's implied that they'd all crossed paths before. Maybe Maleficent introduced them, maybe Regina met them separately, or maybe they even confronted each other when the Queens of Darkness tried to stop her from casting the Curse. If they were ever allies, it's pretty clear Regina clashed with Cruella the most, I still can't get "I was torturing people when you were still playing with puppies" out of my head.

I like to imagine the four of them doing far worse than just drinking and burning a car: terrorizing entire villages together, hunting mermaids, hunting fairies, riding on Maleficent's back while she sets a kingdom on fire, or controlling a pack of wolves to wreak havoc everywhere. I know that's a bit extreme, but then again... these women were extreme XD

A song that always reminds me of this group is "CANCELLED!" by Taylor Swift. I especially think it fits Regina's perspective, which I find funny.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

Regina's Character Development

So hello guys, I'm really loving this community. Talking freely about Regina feels so comforting, and that's why tonight I wanted to repost my first post in the OUAT community (I think it's only been 8 months since then, but I still get sentimental, okay? Don't judge me). At that time, I felt a little insecure talking about this because all I saw was a lot of hate surrounding Regina. Now I'm proud to have started a thread like that. Some comments weren't very much in agreement, others were, and it was wonderful to find someone to share my opinion with. But I'm interested to know, my dear community, what you all think about this whole topic. Feel free to express your thoughts. Here's the post:

Do you think your past defines your present? (Regina Mills)

This is my first post in this community and I am very interested in being able to talk about this with people from this fandom. I'm a fan of Regina, she's my favorite character in the entire series, and while I don't agree with the things she did in the past, I've never agreed with her present self being referred to as a monster, even when she changed. And that's just what one of my acquaintances who is just watching the series does.

For some reason I always felt that the development of villains was a metaphor for life, about how people can change, and it felt good to have found a comment like that in this community as well, because I realized that there are more people who think the same. For me, Regina is the perfect example of what a process of redemption is, and I identify a lot with her because of that feeling of regret, of knowing that you did harm and that there are things that can no longer be fixed, but still trying to make amends with what you have left.

People often say that Regina never apologized to her victims, but I clearly remember seeing her apologizing to Henry, or Snow, or even Bella. I saw her sacrifice herself more than once for the people of Storybrooke, even risking her life. When she decided to protect Emma even though she had been threatened with murdering Robin, when she wanted to sacrifice herself during season 2 for all of Storybrooke. When he gave up on the happy ending with Robin, by giving up on him by letting him go with Marian, accepting that he couldn't always get what he wanted just because. When she helped Emma control the darkness, when she risked getting killed by Rumple or the queens of darkness by protecting Pincoho, Regina did all of that not because she wanted to be forgiven, but because she knew it was the right thing to do and that she owed it to everyone after so much pain.

She herself acknowledged many times that there was no forgiveness for what she did, but she still kept going and it was Henry, Emma or Robin who reminded her that she could be better, that she did deserve a second chance.

That's why I don't think it's fair to define Regina as a bad person at this point, I understand that nothing good erases what happened, but when the remorse is real and you do everything you can to help those you hurt, that counts. When you recognize your mistakes and try not to repeat them, that counts too.

Sometimes it's annoying to talk about what a good person Regina became and have someone immediately tell you “but she did horrible things,” as if nothing she changed matters. I was once talking about how Robin loved Regina even with her dark past, and someone told me I was a bad person for loving someone like her. But I think that love is not about that, when you love someone you do it for who they are now, not for who they were.

This is just my point of view, but I would like to know what you think. Do you believe that the past forever defines a person, or that someone can truly change?

Please everything with respect

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnceUponATime/s/XYdpHANyOB

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

Two Sides of the Same Queen: Part Two

I think I'm going to turn this into a little series where I talk about FairestRegal with you all. Last time I talked about the parallels between their endings and how they each responded to darkness. Today I want to talk about their color palette and costume design.

After rewatching Once Upon a Time so many times, I realized how fun Regina and Snow's costumes are because of how much they contrast with each other. If you've watched the show, you've probably noticed that Regina's outfits are mostly dark blue, purple, black, and red. Her color palette is filled with dark tones, and she even wears raven feathers quite often.

Snow, on the other hand, tends to wear white, cream, gray, and even gold. She has worn purple and red as well, but I think those lighter colors are what define her look the most. Her wedding dress is also decorated with feathers. I've seen many fans interpret them as swan feathers, which I think is a really beautiful idea, although I haven't found any official confirmation from the costume department.

If you look at the first picture, you'll notice that Regina looks so perfectly put together she could almost cut you. That expression probably sounds silly, but I hope you get what I mean. Look at her perfectly styled hair and her dark makeup. Then compare that to Snow, who is often presented in a much simpler way. Her hair is loose, freer, and a little more rebellious. Her makeup is much more natural—not plain, just simple.

I think this fits both characters perfectly. Regina is a queen surrounded by luxury, glamour, elegance, and majesty. Snow also grew up with luxury and elegance, but after becoming a bandit, many of those things naturally disappeared from her life. She's a much more humble kind of queen, one who doesn't need extravagant jewelry or lavish clothing to feel regal.

The interesting thing about all this is how they both ended up changing who they were again. Regina was this rebellious Snow-type princess; we can see it in her outfits. She was royal but more humble. On the other hand, Snow was the spoiled one, wrapped in a lot of glamour.

I honestly love how the costume design tells that story without saying a single word.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

The Charmings and the Egg

HELLO EVERYONE.

Today I'm bringing a somewhat controversial topic that I've decided to analyze. There are many interpretations of the situation involving the Charmings and Maleficent: that the Author manipulated them, that they did it on purpose because they're heroes and, since they're heroes, they believed it was the right thing to do.

But, to me, this situation goes far beyond the oversimplification that "Snow and Charming just wanted a perfect life." I want to analyze it from the perspective of the character who receives the most hate because of all this: Snow White.

Before I begin, I want to clarify something: this post is not meant to downplay the Charmings' actions, especially Snow's. Nor is it meant to justify her. What I want to do is explain the character's logic and understand what led her to make that decision.

Many opinions on this topic are limited to seeing her as a monster; I think it's more interesting to analyze how a desperate person ended up making such a terrible decision.

Let's get started.

As we know, when they find the Tree of Wisdom, it rejects the Charmings. That's when Maleficent explains that the tree didn't reject them because of who they are, but because of the baby Snow is carrying. As the product of true love, the child has the potential to become either a great hero or a great villain. In other words, she is born with the same ability to choose between good and evil as anyone else.

Up to that point, Snow still believes that future can be avoided. After all, we're talking about her and David: two good people who, although they've made mistakes, could raise a daughter with good values.

Maleficent appears later to ask for help, from one mother to another. She proposes that they work together to find a way to stop the curse.

This is where many people interpret that Snow simply sees herself as morally superior. But I think it's worth analyzing her background before jumping to that conclusion.

Everything revolves around Regina.

Regina is the person who has hurt Snow the most: she murdered her father, forced her to live on the run like prey, killed many people for protecting her, and kept trying to end her life for years. Snow knows firsthand how far someone consumed by darkness can go.

On top of that, she herself says that Maleficent, Ursula, and Cruella are even worse than Regina. So the question is: why would she trust someone she considers just as dangerous—or even more—than the person who destroyed her life?

And even if Snow does come across as morally superior in this moment… is that really so unreasonable? Especially if you see yourself as someone who hasn’t crossed those lines—someone who hasn’t killed, hasn’t destroyed lives. When you’re faced with a person who has done exactly that, does moral neutrality even feel like an option?

That's why I believe Snow would never have agreed to work with her if it meant doing evil in order to save the kingdom. And, from her perspective, she also would have felt that this wasn't the example she wanted to set for her daughter.

That doesn't mean her decision wasn't selfish.

Because yes, prioritizing your daughter being good over saving the kingdom can be seen as a selfish act. But I think that, considering all the context above, it at least becomes a decision that's understandable from the character's point of view, even if it was still wrong.

After this, Charming and Snow White seek out the unicorn to make sure that the path Emma will take is not the path of evil. There they receive two visions, which you all already know: the one of the baby in the basket that David sees, and the one of teenage Emma that Snow sees, where Emma rips out her heart and crushes it.

When they arrive at the Sorcerer (thanks to that damn Isaac—because yes, on this account we hate Isaac; he took advantage of their fear and showed them the way), that's when the real problems begin.

The Sorcerer (manipulated by Isaac) tells them that both visions can come true. Everyone is born as a blank slate, with the potential for either good or evil. But what's the problem? David's vision shows a baby. A baby represents exactly that: a blank slate, someone who can still choose either path. Snow's vision, however, shows a teenage Emma who has already made her choice. I mean, she even looks like she took lessons from Cora, lol. Just look at her.

And this is the real problem for Snow.

The purpose of seeking out the unicorn was to find out whether Emma would be good. However, the vision only shows her two things: a baby and an Emma who has already chosen evil. So which one do you think Snow is going to believe? Obviously, the second one.

A baby probably doesn't tell her much because it represents possibilities. But a teenage Emma does. That vision is showing her daughter becoming a villain, and it never shows her a version of herself choosing the path of good. No matter how much the Sorcerer tells her that Emma has the potential for both, the only concrete image she receives is of her daughter choosing the wrong side, becoming someone very much like the woman who has caused her the most pain in her entire life.

And that terrifies her.

A desperate situation like that, in which any mother would want to prevent her child from becoming a bad person, presents her with a very tempting option. They knew they wouldn't be able to prevent the darkness from being passed on to another recipient. The Sorcerer assures them that it's the only way to save Emma, and David says it clearly: it wouldn't be right to save their daughter at the expense of someone else.

Snow knows that.

And this is where, in my opinion, her logic begins to fall apart.

When the idea of the dragon egg comes up, something very interesting happens. Snow knows Maleficent is a horrible person, and, based on the way she understands the world, she reaches a conclusion: if a good person like herself wants her daughter to be good, why wouldn't someone as evil as Maleficent want her child to be just like her?

Something similar happened with Cora and Regina, so, from Snow's perspective, that idea makes sense. It's the closest thing to something she can understand.

(Although, honestly... DO YOU KNOW WHAT I CALL THIS? BAD WRITING BY THE SCREENWRITERS AND A COMPLETELY OUT-OF-CHARACTER MOMENT. BUT LET'S KEEP GOING.)

That's why she suggests that it shouldn't be a child, but a dragon egg. She believes that what will hatch from that egg won't be a human baby, but a monster like Maleficent. She even tells Charming that they know Maleficent both in her human form and in her dragon form, so she assumes her child will be the same.

Charming agrees, and that's when they kidnap the baby.

This is where one of the scenes that has broken my heart the most in the entire show happens: Maleficent begging for mercy for her child.

But, even believing that the baby would grow up to become a villain like her, the Charmings promise to return the child to its mother.

AND, GUYS, I WANT TO MAKE A POINT HERE.

JUST BECAUSE THE GORGEOUS PRINCE CHARMING DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE IDEA DOESN'T MAKE HIM ANY LESS GUILTY.

People usually mention only Snow, but Charming is just as responsible. He agreed with it, took part in the entire plan, and helped carry it out.

The fact that the original idea wasn't his doesn't make him any less guilty or any more aware than Snow.

They both agreed. They both carried out the plan. End of story.

If you notice, when the egg is finally with the Sorcerer, you can still see a hint of doubt in both Charming and Snow. They both continue questioning whether they're really doing the right thing. Even so, they go through with the spell.

However, according to the Sorcerer (once again manipulated by the Author), the baby can no longer stay there.

AND THE CHARMINGS TELL HIM NO. They tell him that they have to return the baby to its mother because, even though they consider Maleficent a villain, they also understand that she's still a mother.

Then comes the moment that, to me, completely changes the scene. The eggshell begins to crack.

And when they see the baby's tiny hand, everything they had been trying to convince themselves was necessary no longer feels that way.

At that moment, they're no longer looking at a monster. They're looking at an innocent baby. Just as they wanted their own daughter to be.

And that's when everything they did stops feeling like a necessary decision and becomes something profoundly cruel and unjust.

We all know what happens to the egg in the end, but there's still something the Sorcerer says that has always stuck with me. He says, "Now your daughter has the potential for both good and evil. It's your job to guide her toward doing what's right." WOULDN'T THAT BE BASICALLY THE SAME AS BEFORE?

Yes... but not quite.

Let me explain. Before, Emma had the same choices, but her path, as we saw in the vision, was leaning more toward darkness. Now, however, she leaned more toward the light, and we can see that in Emma herself—in how she always tries to find a way to do the right thing. That's not only because Snow White, David, and later Henry inspired her to do good; it's also, in part, because by removing most of that darkness, they changed the path she might have taken.

After this comes their redemption, and I think a lot of people overlook it because it isn't the kind of redemption people usually expect. I mean, it all begins in a flashback during Season 4, and we're meant to understand that everything good they've done in the present—in Storybrooke—has been part of making up for what they did.

Remember this well: Snow cannot find peace because of what they did. She admits that they became monsters and that what they did was unforgivable. Charming tells her there's no way to undo it, but they can make things right by helping others become better people and avoid repeating their mistakes.

From that point on, it's clear that Snow and Charming begin spreading messages of hope and doing good. They choose to change and become better people.

That was the closest thing they believed they could do to make up for their mistakes.

And they did it all to become what Emma needed: better parents. Regina herself mentions that Snow told her to believe she could deserve forgiveness and earn it, and Snow truly believed that. That doesn't make her a hypocrite or a bad person. To me—as I already said in another post where I defended Snow—it makes her someone who genuinely tries to make up for her mistakes.

Everything they did was to protect Emma, not because they wanted her to be the most perfect little person in the world, but because they wanted to save her from something as terrible as darkness and from living the kind of miserable life villains usually end up having.

To me, the real problem with both of them begins because they lied. If they had been honest about the sins they committed when Ursula and Cruella arrived, or when Maleficent came back, everything would have been fine. They would have been able to admit, in front of everyone and in front of their own daughter, that what they did was wrong—even though they had already admitted it to each other.

But, they didn't.

Snow, the woman so many people call a bad mother, only wanted one thing now: not to disappoint Emma. She knew how hard it had been for Emma to connect with them in the first place. She's her mother, and mothers never want to hurt their children—especially when their children look up to them so much.

Even so, it was still wrong, and that's why I can't help but side with Emma throughout all of her anger over not being told the truth.

In the end, Snow and David did, in some way, repair what they had done. They helped Maleficent find Lily and even apologized. It may not seem like much, but this is OUAT, guys. This is a world that believes in happy endings and second chances.

I don't know if everyone will agree with that, but seriously, the Charmings were genuinely remorseful.

You know something I find really interesting?

When they're looking for Lily, Charming calls her "it," just like they once believed she was—a monster. But Snow corrects him and reminds him that she's her, because she refuses to make the same mistake again.

Before that, Snow and Charming could have done something even worse by burning the page with the Author trapped inside it, but they didn't because they knew it would cost Regina her happy ending. In the end, they chose to talk instead.

I think the way people judge Snow and Charming is extremely harsh.

Yes, they messed up—badly. But who hasn't in this show? Every single character has made terrible mistakes at some point. I understand that no one is obligated to like a character, but attacking them forever over a mistake they sincerely regret, clearly show remorse for, and genuinely tried to fix—even after so much time had passed—feels like someone worthy of forgiveness, and that's how the series treats them.

Of course, no one is obligated to forgive them. Everyone sees things differently, and this is simply where I stand.

Snow and Charming probably aren't the best people, but I understand them. I understand why they did everything they did, and I can sympathize with them. But in the end, we still can't justify their actions, and that's the right conclusion.

At first I said that this was actually an out of character moment, not because Snow and Charming can’t make mistakes, but because the show had already shown Snow’s darker side—like the forgetting potion for revenge on Regina and killing Cora to protect her family. Still, this storyline jumps too quickly from that complexity to something as extreme as stealing another mother’s child, which is why it feels forced rather than developed. They're human, and just like all humans make mistakes, they're a clear example of morally gray, complex characters. Unfortunately, those sides of them were never explored deeply enough and that's probably why this storyline ends up feeling so out of character.

I'd love to hear your opinions. If you're only going to comment with hate or disrespect, please don't. I invite you to share your thoughts and tell me what you think.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

She Truly Is the Fairest of Them All

With long hair or not, I truly find Ginny incredibly beautiful, and the way she portrayed Snow and Mary Margaret was amazing, her performance is one of my favorites on this show; when she's angry, when she's happy, when she's sad, Ginny gave it her all, I feel like people overlook her or simply don't care about her moments.

I've seen many derogatory comments about her appearance after her pregnancy, and it just makes me think about how cruel people can be. After pregnancy, you can't expect someone to look the same as before, and yet, to me, she's fabulous. I mean, just look at her!

I love that she wears a pixie cut. Female characters usually have long hair, and well, Ginnifer Goodwin took a risk and showed us this style on screen, and for me, it was the best thing she could have done to make her unique. I think the pixie cut looks better on her when it's not as short as in the sixth picture. And what can I say about her long hair? It makes her feel like a princess. I love how she looks with it in the fourth picture; that hairstyle was beautiful.

Of course, beauty is subjective; not everyone will be attractive to everyone. But who else thinks our hopeful and optimistic girl is truly beautiful?

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

The Queen Wears Mayor: Part Two

I SAY IT AND I STAND BY IT, HER UNDERCOVER ERA IS MY FAVORITE.

I still can't decide between the red or blue outfits. I'll have to conclude by saying I like them all, but you know, the blue dress with the black jacket from season five looks really good on her, and I don't know why, but I love it. It feels so... liberating? Regina is always more into elegant outfits and blazers; that one gives off all the baddie vibes lol. I mean, baddies can dress like that too, but it really suits Regina in that style.

With this I conclude my love for her outfits, which one did you like?

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

The Queen Wears Mayor

I'm really not going to stop talking about her outfits, so how about one of hers in Storybrooke? She's the best dressed in EF, but also in SB. I love outfit one (I love Regina in pants; skirts are beautiful, but pants? Pants look great on her), three, five (the Neverland arc suited her very well; I mean, just look at her, blue is perfect for her), and six are all great. I also like outfit eight because it's very unusual to see Regina in those shades; she's more into dark colors. Honestly, all the black outfits she wears here are the best because, you know, it's her color, after all. I think if I had to choose just one, it would be Neal's funeral. And I'm really torn between her black and blue and black and red outfits; both combinations look great on her. Which ones do you really love?

By the way, as someone who loves FairetsRegal, I just wanted to remind you that the SECOND OUTFIT is the one she wears when she's protecting Snow. These things really excite me, as does her undercover era. I think it's number 10, yep, number 10. Have you all forgotten when Emma tells her, "Then step aside and I'll protect you"? I LOVE THEIR RELATIONSHIP THIS SEASON MORE THAN ANYTHING. They protect each other so much. I'll talk more about this later.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

The Queen Wears Evil: Part Two

I really didn't want to leave out these other outfits. Again, I know that several of her outfits here aren't literally from her as Evil Regina, but rather from her pre-evil era and in the Enchanted Forest, so that's why they're here. Which of these do you like? I have to say that her wedding dress is one of my favorites, even with the meaning it had. I think it was that she was trapped, right? I also like the one she wears when she tries to escape from Cora. And something I've noticed throughout the show is that Regina repeats her outfits, and I don't mean this as a bad thing. It's really amazing to see how creative they are when she repeats them with different touches, embellishments, or hairstyles. For example, the one in the second image, that purple outfit, she wears with Hansel and Gretel and with Rumple when she goes to bother him about Belle. In that specific image, it's when she's with Jefferson, and I love that she's wearing that black feather cape; she looks beautiful.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago
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The Queen Wears Evil

So, I think we can all agree(and be just a little full of ourselves)that our Queen is the best-dressed character on the show.

So I have to ask: what's your favorite Regina outfit from her Evil Queen era? Or, more generally (since she wasn't actually evil in some of these scenes), what's your favorite look she wore in the Enchanted Forest?

I have to say, I absolutely love the last one—it's my favorite. I always laugh when Emma asks, "How can you even walk in that?" and Regina, looking absolutely fabulous, replies, "With the poise and bearing of a queen."

I also love the first one, the second one (the cape, people... THE CAPE), the fourth one (because this one—and every outfit with those skirt-pants—is amazing), the fifth (I love that riding-inspired look), the seventh (I only have one thing to say: "Didn't anyone tell you? Black is my color."), the eighth, ninth, tenth, and eleventh...

You know what? I love them all. But especially the one she wears when she gives Snow White the poisoned apple (MY GOD, THAT OUTFIT!) and her battle outfit.

The dress she wears at Leopold's funeral is one of the most beautiful looks in the entire series. It gives off the ultimate fairy-tale vibes. And I absolutely adore—seriously—the outfit she wears when they go looking for Glinda. That blue coat is, without a doubt, my TOP 1... although, don't trust me too much—I'm incredibly indecisive. Tomorrow you'll probably see me saying a different one is my favorite.

I just love my Queen👑💜

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

Emma and Elsa

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Emma is probably my second or third favorite character on the show, and I feel like people often overlook the amazing friendships she had. Everyone always talks about August or Regina (usually from a romantic perspective), but almost no one talks about Elsa, and their friendship was honestly magical.

One of my favorite Emma arcs is her learning to accept her powers and stop being afraid of them. I love how it's such a clear parallel to Elsa. The person who understands better than anyone what it's like to fear your own magic ends up being the one who helps Emma stop seeing hers as something to be afraid of.

Sure, Henry, Snow, Charming, and Hook all supported Emma, but they couldn't truly understand what she was going through. They didn't know what it felt like to carry that kind of fear. Elsa did. She knew exactly what it was like to be terrified of hurting others with her own power, and because she had faced those same fears, she was able to show Emma that it was possible to overcome them too. I just love that.

I also love how Emma never stopped believing in Elsa. She never doubted her, even when the whole town was ready to blame her for everything. She even defended her against Regina, which says a lot about the trust she had in Elsa.

And I can't forget one of my favorite moments between them: when they're trying to get the yellow ribbons off, Elsa tells Emma, "You're irritating, but not unbearable," and Emma immediately goes, "Me? Irritating?"

Seriously, I adore them. Elsa is Emma's sister as far as I'm concerned. I have no proof, but I have no doubts either. They may not be related by blood, but that's absolutely the kind of bond they have.

I only wish we'd gotten to see Elsa spend more time with Anna. I honestly think Anna and Snow would have gotten along so well.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

The Snow Queen

I don't think I'm the only one who loves Ingrid and thinks her story is incredible. Say whatever you want about the Frozen arc, but to me she was the best part of that season (along with Emma and Elsa's friendship).

Every villain we'd had in OUAT was unique in the way they showed how evil they could be, but Ingrid had something that captivated me in a similar way to Regina, Rumple, and Zelena. Not because she was like them, but because she was such a mysterious and magnetic character.

She carried herself with all the elegance of a queen. Her voice was so soft and gentle, yet every word she spoke could feel unsettling, like when she attacks Emma at the sheriff's station or leaves Elsa chained up in the woods. The way she spoke to both of them was especially fascinating because, yes, she saw them as sisters, but she also had this almost maternal side toward them. She genuinely wanted to protect them, guide them, and teach them, even if her methods were completely twisted.

And yes, that's exactly what makes a great villain! I feel like people often overlook the fact that Ingrid was genuinely unhinged. Maybe not to the same extent as some of the other villains, but she was still a deeply disturbed woman, and that made every one of her scenes so compelling to watch. She was also an incredibly complex character: she was willing to do whatever it took to build her perfect family. The way she immediately discards Anna the moment she sees her as a threat shows that she wasn't about to let anyone take away someone who, in her eyes, was essentially another version of herself, even though no one was actually trying to do that. That fear existed only in her mind, but it felt so real to her that it shaped every decision she made. That's what makes Ingrid such a fascinating character: her trauma had completely distorted the way she saw the world. She is simply WOW.

And on top of that, after Regina, I think Ingrid had the best wardrobe in the entire series.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

What do you like about Regina in season 4?

I really think this is my favorite season of Regina. I love the development of her friendship with Emma and her undercover era. I don't know why, but it's great. I feel like they also developed her character better so we could connect with her. She's a great character, I love her. And let's not forget her moments with Henry and Snow; they were delightful for me.

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago

How would you have organized the series?

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I think one thing we can all agree on is that, even though we love the show, there were a lot of things we didn't like. This has probably been done in different ways before, but I'd still love to hear how you would have reorganized the seasons, what changes you would have made to the storylines and the characters. Here's how I would have done it.

Seasons 1–3

In my opinion, the first three seasons are perfect as they are, so I'll start with Season 4 (yes, I know that's a pretty controversial take).

Season 4: Frozen

Season 3 worked really well by splitting the story into two halves. Personally, I liked that format, but I think the Season 4 storyline—especially 4B—was much more complex.

Because of that, I'd make Season 4 entirely about Frozen. The Frozen arc would end in Episode 13, and yes, even though that sounds short compared to the other seasons, I'd make it a 13-episode season. I know a lot of people didn't like the Frozen storyline, but I actually did, and I think it was handled much better than 4B.

The only thing I'd change is giving Snow's postpartum trauma a much better explanation.

Season 5: Queens of Darkness

Season 5 would be entirely about the Queens of Darkness, with 22–23 episodes.

That way we'd have the chance to see the three villains much more developed, spend more time watching them in action, and actually doing evil things.

For Maleficent, I'd give her a backstory episode explaining why she became so evil. It would also explore her history with Stefan and Briar Rose, while giving Aurora and Phillip much bigger roles.

I'd keep Maleficent heartbroken over what happened to her daughter, but I'd make her much angrier and far more ruthless. I like that her main goal is finding Lily, but she's still the Mistress of All Evil.

This season would also spend more time exploring Emma before she becomes the Dark One.

I'd also expand the Author storyline and Lily's story. I once saw someone suggest that Aurora's parents should have been the ones involved instead of Snow and Charming. I don't remember who said it, but I actually agree. If I didn't go that route, then I'd make it fully canon that the Author manipulated Snow and Charming, because while I like that storyline, it always felt a little out of character for them.

Maleficent and Lily also wouldn't disappear after this season. I'd keep them around as recurring characters because both of them had so much more potential to explore.

REGINA STAYS EXACTLY THE SAME. MY WIFE IS PERFECT

Cruella too.

Season 6: Dark Swan

This season would be entirely about Dark Swan, and I have two favorite ideas.

Option 1

Emma becomes the Dark One, but she keeps the look from the promotional photos: a shimmering, frosty glow instead of those scales. On the outside she'd still look like a symbol of light, while the darkness would be growing inside her.

I've always preferred that design. Sure, she kind of looks like Edward Cullen, but honestly I'd take that over no visual change at all.

Part of why Emma never truly became evil, in my opinion, is because she's the Savior. Even so, I'd explore her darkness much more in Camelot, let her genuinely fall into corruption, and then have the light that's still inside her—along with her family's help—bring her back once they're in Storybrooke.

Option 2 (my favorite)

Snow becomes the Dark One.

Yes, this is absolutely my favorite idea.

Imagine the entire storyline, but with Snow taking Emma's place. We'd get to dive much deeper into her character, her past, and why she always tries so hard to be good.

Since Snow and David share a heart, part of that darkness could spread to David. Emma would end up in Hook's original role, Snow would eventually save her, and we'd end up with three Dark Ones.

It sounds crazy, I know... but I actually think it could work.

AND YES... REGINA STAYS THE SAME. SHE'S PERFECT.

Season 7: Underworld

This season would be entirely about the Underworld.

I don't think it would need to be as long. I'd spend much more time developing Cora so her redemption actually feels earned. And if I still couldn't make it work... then honestly, she can stay down there.

I'd also make Hercules and Megara much closer to their animated personalities. I know OUAT is all about reimagining classic characters, but I just didn't like the versions we got.

Season 8

This season would adapt everything from the original Season 6: Hyde, the Evil Queen serum, the Black Fairy, and everything else.

I honestly didn't have many problems with that storyline.

I'd also keep Ruby as a regular character. I always felt like she had so much more potential, and the show got rid of her far too soon. I'd also keep Maleficent and Lily around as recurring characters because I think all three of them still had a lot to contribute to both the story and the main cast.

And that's it.

Some people might ask, "But what about Henry and Jacinda's story?"

I'd make it a spin-off. Let's be honest, it basically already was

Or, if ABC wanted to keep the franchise going, that storyline could become Seasons 9, 10, and even 11. I honestly wouldn't have minded getting more seasons, as long as they gave those stories the time they deserved instead of wrapping everything up so quickly.

What things don't you like about OUAT that you could have done better?

u/MostRate2091 — 2 months ago