u/Mundane-Zucchini-141

The Christians of the past and the Christians of the present still believe in the same god. If we use the "Sanathan Dharma" logic, you'd have to classify Judaism and Christianity as the same religion. The first hindus(vedic) hindus were ritualistic and worshipped Indra and Agni. This is practically not the same religion we practice today. This doesn't even mention the stupidity of claiming Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism as "Sanathan Dharma".

I swear to god Ranveer has rotten people's brains. These idiots are talking about it as if it's a fact😭✌️

For context, the last time this happened, partition took place💀💀

Explanation in the comments

I mean this does count right?

This story is the wildest thing I've heard in a long time and I just want to share it with someone. I am pretty sure I'd be banned in the main subreddit if I posted this so I am not going to take the chance. Also this story reveals the character of the Israeli state as a whole imo.

Before I explain what the Bnei Menashe even are and how it reveals the hypocrisy of Israel, we first need to put down the definition of a Jew as given by various famous Zionists. The founder of Zionist Theodor Herzl believed that "A Jew is a member of a historical-national community, bound together by shared origin and the reality of being recognized (or targeted) as such regardless of personal belief or level of religious observance."

Similarly the most famous cultural Zionist Ahad Ha'am said that “Jewish identity rests on the preservation of a “national spirit” expressed through shared culture, history, and ethical life."

https://openlibrary.org/works/OL245943W/Selected\_essays?utm\_source=chatgpt.com

Vladimir Jabotinsky described the Jewish people as “A nation is a historical reality of shared fate and consciousness.”

https://en.jabotinsky.org/zeev-jabotinsky/selected-bibliography/?utm\_source=chatgpt.com

Now I know that Ben gurion described Jews as "Someone who claims to be a Jew". But the thing is, that philosophy originated from labour Zionism and that movement is basically dead. It's not nice to beat a dead horse. Currently the most prominent form of Zionism in Israel is Revisionist and cultural Zionism. Most Israelis are either religious Zionist and cultural Zionism so I'll take the definition of Ahad Ma'am and Vladimir jabotinsky definitions to define a Jew

Now onto what Bnei Menashe even are. The Bnei Menashe are a group of people from northeastern India who claim descent from one of the “Lost Tribes of Israel,” specifically the tribe of Manasseh (Menashe), one of the sons of the biblical patriarch Joseph. This is what they say but the truth is so wild that I am being compelled to write this. It's simply hilariously dumb.

Zaithanchhunga (also known as Mela Chala) is the actual founder of this movement. He was a Mizo leader from Mizoram in the mid-20th century. In the year 1951, he claimed to have received a divine revelation that his people were descendants of the tribe of Manasseh. He began promoting a return to what he believed were ancient Israelite practices. Also the thing to note here is that most historians believe that they only started following proper Judaism and its practices only in the 1970s when the tribe leaders actually got information on what Judaism actually even is. Before that, these people were Christians with traditional animal sacrifices. No way are they connected to Israel or even Judaism. Hell they weren't even Jews until 100 years ago.

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-history/bnei-menashe-lost-tribe-israel-history-migration-explained-10655274/lite/?utm\_source=chatgpt.com

I implore anyone who has the time to read up on this because this is simply ridiculous.

Now why am I writing this and how does this connect to Israel and the Israeli you may ask. Israel's biggest claim has always been that they are descendents from the ancient Israelites or the "12 tribes of Israel" and they share genetics with the people in the levant. Their claim has always been that they were removed from that land by the Romans and that they are simply natives who have come back to settle their homeland. Now let me ask the pro Israeli side on what basis do the Indo- Burmese tribe that was established by a mad chief who apparently got a revelation in his dream about being descendants from a lost tribe claim to be connected to this land. They are perhaps the first generation of their whole lineage to even set foot on the land of Israel. Also both definitions of Jewish identity as described by Ahad Ha'am and Vladimir Jabotinsky don't fit here because these people have no shared history with the levant or even Judaism until 100 years ago.

The people of "Bnei Menashe" are not connected to this land. They barely even practice Judaism and yet they are being brought to this land by chartered plains and being given the permission to perform Aliyah but a Palestinian refugee living in Lebanon whose family until 70 years ago inhabited that land aren't allowed to return. How does an Indo Burmese person who has more similarities with a person living in Bhutan for example have more claim on that land than the Palestinian refugee? Isn't this the greatest hypocrisy in mankind?

Also to add that these people are being brought back to be used for labour. Mizo tribes are famously good soldiers and will be employed in the army. They are simply being brought to be canon fodder. I hope they don't discover a "lost" tribe in Nepal because then they'd have access to the gurkha's and might actually win without killing civilians for once(the horror).

Fr just saw a bunch of people saying this in the other sub. Why is this even a debate omg😒😒