u/Navosh

Mecca Pact got activated to defence Saudi from Hauthi attacks against my hopes though I still remain sceptical of it. But how is 90 photographs of highest civilian award from 90 countries going to match with commitment to come to aid in defending your nation? How much is Israel to blame (Opinion)

Mecca Pact got activated to defence Saudi from Hauthi attacks against my hopes though I still remain sceptical of it. But how is 90 photographs of highest civilian award from 90 countries going to match with commitment to come to aid in defending your nation? How much is Israel to blame (Opinion)

Mecca Pact Got Activated People were wondering what is so wrong in PM visiting Israel and drawing parity between India and Israel when calling Israel the fatherland and India the motherland. And then the narrative ran around not our war when Iran was invaded. Some discussions were also activated about how Iran is an Islamic republic and has talked negatively about Kashmir in tweets in past.

Words have meaning, diplomatic visits have meaning. If I can consider that India has gained one ally in past decade, it is Israel. Our relations with France, Japan, ASEAN and Australia which were on the rise in first decade of this century marked with historic agreement to purchase 126 Rafale from France, Amphibious aircraft US-2i from Japan, the free trade agreement with ASEAN marked the headlines of Manmohan Singh era. The first two are still stalled and success of the FTA is debated. There was still momentum going into enthusiastic funding of High Speed Train by Japan, but that has been stuck too. Now it seems, in 2027 before Guj elections, a 150 km stretch will open between Surat and Vapi a distance where High Speed Train does not make much sense.

As same time, all major achievements have been in deals with Israel. Israel if it could, would love to plunge India into defending itself from all its neighbours against whom it has deeply racist domestic politics and foreign policy. They have the most modern army tank, it appears but proof will be in the pudding if they can bring it to anything nearly as comprehensive a deal as the botched up Rafale deal was. One should remember, by 2026 all 126 jets would have been developed. We have less than 36 rafale fighter jets today. In 2026, France declared that they will not share source code with India in future deal of Rafale which may try to mimic the domestic production deal India had struck during Manmohan Singh.

Now, this is concerning, Indian government led by Modi in its obsession of Israel has ignored the South Asian neighbours, the entire CAA NRC debate inflamed public opinion in Bangladesh which was thoroughly ignored in discourse. Nepal has seen a government change but even the new government is more pro-China than we would like. What’s left is Bhutan but I am sure the indecent domestic conduct, religious nationalism is not winning us allies there either.

And at the end of it, in an increasingly insecure world, India has failed to nurture deeper ties with like-minded countries like Brazil (we diverged with them on Gaza and Trump but new president would likely by Trump sycophant), France (multipolarity paglu), Japan ('Freedom of navigation' and promising returns on their investments) - and instead all we have got is superficial diplomacy of owning the European countries with laser eyes rhetoric and significant erosion of nuance in public discourse about foreign relations.

The choice would be, if there is another Op. Sindoor situation, China would make India sit down
with Pakistan and use the opportunity to claim global leadership. That is one possibility. Another is emboldened radical Islamist narrative funded by the Mecca Defence Pact against which all we would do is repeat the United Nations General Assembly speeches by our young IFS officers dedicated to calling Pakistan a terrorist nation in a nearly empty hall. Modi invested in egomaniac like Trump and Netanyahu, turns out they just care about themselves. India cannot have Jerusalem accord with Israel it would just mean India deploying troops in middle east to allow settler violence. US has even renamed Indo-Pacific back as Pacific command and given up on Indian Ocean dominance with India as second pillar. Who is left to balance the power? My bet is India will bend the knee and if Modi is assured of authoritarian technology by China, he might even increasingly turn to China which will be covered in News as 'owning the west' to beat their own chest. But it would be an unreliable road, with India's global ambitions forever locked under a glass ceiling of an Asia dominated by China.

u/Navosh — 9 days ago

India suddenly finds Iran as a friend after Pakistan's Mecca Agreement 2026. Can anyone take this seriously?

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So PM Modi had a highly publicised meeting with Iran on sidelines of SCO, a grouping where India joined because Russia insisted if China wants to include Pakistan, India must be included too. Now, why did India make it a point six months after calling Israel the fatherland to publicise that Modi met Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian. Well, Pakistan signed a Mecca agreement with Saudi Arabia and Turkey for join defence agreement. These 3 countries have three different strengths, Pakistan has nuclear weapons, Turkey is a NATO member with modern army, and Saudi has deep pockets to sustain financial expenses needed for expensive weaponry. Similarly, they each have weaknesses that are compensated by the others. Crucially, all these three countries have been involved in hyper radicalisation of domestic audience in favour of Pan-Islamism, that muslims every where should be concerned about global issues like Gaza and as Pakistan would like to add to list, Kashmir. Now, they have a joint defence agreement.

India on the other hand is left without allies after investing too much in Trump and getting only rebukes in return. We stopped purchasing Iranian oil, Modi visited Israel when no other head of state was visiting it amid deployment of US navy near Iranian shores and have done events like Namaste Trump. There is nothing equivalent of this Mecca agreement that India has with any nation. Historically, the only nation that came close to such agreement with us was Soviet Union and Russia continuing that legacy.

However, today, months after Indian media bombarded people with 'not our war' stories as Iran was attacked. We see a changed landscape, India lost credibility in global south where Palestine cause was seen as last vestige of colonialism. None of BRICS countries aside from India have said anything positive about Israel, have openly criticised this war and Donald J Trump. At same time, India is paying one of highest costs of this war due to import dependency and low integration of renewable energy in power mix compared to China, the other import dependent major economy.

This war has become our war. Here comes the critical information about why meeting Iran matters. Iran has unresolved issues with Pakistan over Baluchistan. Also, Gilgit Baltistan, the portion of Pakistan occupied Kashmir is majority Shia population with significant sympathy for Iran. The shias were told by Pakistani army general to go to Iran if they want to fight for them and create no ruckus in Pakistan, if you know what that sounds like, you can interpret Shias have grievances against the Pakistani state including for killing nearly 50 demonstrators near US embassy.

Baluchistan, glorified by Dhurandhar as hotspot of Indian depth of intelligence and a Pakistani security weakness has a substantial population of Shia Hazars in Quetta. While social harmony between Sunnis and Shias is better in Pakistan than Iraq, the Pan-islamism has this drawback of bringing global battles within Islam to forefront as well, creating new divides within Pakistan as well. Shias are genuinely being made the next Ahmediyas in the radicalised society especially when Pakistani General called those who support Iran to go to Iran rather than protesting in Pakistan.

INDIA sacrificed this stretegic and intelligence depth we had over Sunni dominated rapidly radicalising Pakistani state, by calling Israel the fatherland. Nothing unites Muslims more than hate for Israel. It doesn't help that the nuances of Sunni and Shia divide have found no significant recognition in India's foreign policy since Manmohan Singh called India as second largest nation after Iran in terms of Shia population.

So we are COMPENSATING now with such steps, in hopes that India Iran growing proximity would deter Pakistani adventurism, after this newfound alliance with Turkey and Saudi.

But problem is, we are catching up and merely reacting. No one takes this seriously now, and it all appears like cosmetic diplomacy to send a signal to Pakistan while being nothing close to a military agreement. It is reactive rather than actually standing for anything meaningful and steadfast values that we have proved to Iranians. While I still believe there is much to grow ties over as Iran is also looking for friends.

And this ally for whom Modi said 'Abki baar Trump Sarkaar' has issued warning for nations helping Iran when asked by media about PM meeting the Iranian President. Here is instagram post mentioning Modi Pezeshkian meeting.

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u/Navosh — 1 month ago